Are you freakin kidding me?

[Cowtown]

FWIW, I didn't notice him being out on the court during live game action.

It would be priceless for the guy with the ball to dribble right straight at him and watch him scramble, lol!

 

[rrlbees]

Isn't there a written rule about coaches and the box?

 

[Cuse315Pat]

Jesus. He's a good 5 ft inside the 3pt line. That's some serious full court pressure 6 on 5 right there.

 

[OrangeDW]

Checkmate.
Signed,
King Doucher

Pitino did that same thing against us last year, I believe. Disgusting.

 

[Cowtown]

Isn't there a written rule about coaches and the box?

Yeah, if you're yelling at the ref, you have to be in the box. If you're administering to your team, or checking with the table for, say, fouls, etc. you can be outside it. But the photo of Turgeon and the vid clip of Calipari indicate to me it's getting out of hand. There's no excuse for either to have taken it that far beyond what's reasonable. Makes me wonder if there is a "point of emphasis" directing officials not to T that kind of thing.

 

[Cowtown]

Jesus. He's a good 5 ft inside the 3pt line. That's some serious full court pressure 6 on 5 right there.

It's so outrageous I thought at first maybe it was a photoshop job, but his shadow looks like the others, so I gotta believe it's legit.

 

[Jake]

One time I'd like to see a player just throw the ball to a coach on the court and have the automatic technical get called. It'd stop a bunch if these primary Donna coaches from thinking they belong in the field of play. Mike Tomlin says hello.

Before anyone asks, yes I do believe even the invoke tent ACC officials would call the T. A coach that makes contact with the ball while on the court automatically gets td up.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Point of emphasis to make sure coaches stay in the box...wasn't that what we heard after Saturday night?

It's my biggest pet peeve with college hoops. Some player is going tear an ACL trying to avoid one of these coaches

 

[Cuse315Pat]

With the way the officiating has gone lately I wouldn't be surprised if the coach pulls a Jason Kidd and they get the benefit of it in the end anyways.

 

[Cowtown]

One time I'd like to see a player just throw the ball to a coach on the court and have the automatic technical get called. It'd stop a bunch if these primary Donna coaches from thinking they belong in the field of play. Mike Tomlin says hello.

Before anyone asks, yes I do believe even the invoke tent ACC officials would call the T. A coach that makes contact with the ball while on the court automatically gets td up.

It's my guess they'd have to T 'em both up. Deliberately throwing the ball at the other coach is over the line, and that coach being on the floor doesn't make it permissible. Now, if he was throwing a pass to his own teammate and it hits the coach, that's something else altogether.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Isn't there a written rule about coaches and the box?

There is actually.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

That's like the worst Where's Waldo of all time.

 

[OrangeDW]

It's my guess they'd have to T 'em both up. Deliberately throwing the ball at the other coach is over the line, and that coach being on the floor doesn't authorize it. Now, if he was throwing a pass to his own teammate and it hits the coach, that's something else altogether.

OK...so we need to have a teammate set up behind or at least near the coach to act as the "target" for the pass. Then the player with the ball rockets it off his face and can justify it that he was zipping a crisp pass to his teammate and it just went awry.

This must happen.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

It's my guess they'd have to T 'em both up. Deliberately throwing the ball at the other coach is over the line, and that coach being on the floor doesn't authorize it. Now, if he was throwing a pass to his own teammate and it hits the coach, that's something else altogether.

Is there anything in the rule book that would state that a player throwing a ball to a coach that is on the court is over the line? I see where you're coming from, but to T the player I think some explicit rule would need to be broken.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

It's my guess they'd have to T 'em both up. Deliberately throwing the ball at the other coach is over the line, and that coach being on the floor doesn't authorize it. Now, if he was throwing a pass to his own teammate and it hits the coach, that's something else altogether.

Is there anything in the rule book that would state that a player throwing a ball to a coach that is on the court is over the line? I see where you're coming from, but to T the player I think some explicit rule would need to be broken.

 

[swish7]

There are literally hundreds of pictures of Dixon on the court, in this pose

 

[rrlbees]

Yeah, if you're yelling at the ref, you have to be in the box. If you're administering to your team, or checking with the table for, say, fouls, etc. you can be outside it. But the photo of Turgeon and the vid clip of Calipari indicate to me it's getting out of hand. There's no excuse for either to have taken it that far beyond what's reasonable. Makes me wonder if there is a "point of emphasis" directing officials not to T that kind of thing.

Then they let at least 1 T go. There was another time he was a few feet into the court up near midcourt complaining about a non call.

 

[Cowtown]

Is there anything in the rule book that would state that a player throwing a ball to a coach that is on the court is over the line? I see where you're coming from, but to T the player I think some explicit rule would need to be broken.

Well, I ref in FIBA, and the rule on technical fouls is pretty much the same, IIRC. It's very broadly written for the purpose of wide application, and it states ...

Art. 38 Technical foul
38.1 Rules of conduct
38.1.1 The proper conduct of the game demands the full and loyal cooperation of the players and team bench personnel with the officials, table officials and commissionner, if present.
38.1.2 Each team shall do its best to secure victory, but this must be done in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.
38.1.3 Any deliberate or repeated non-cooperation or non-compliance with the spirit and intent of this rule shall be considered as a technical foul.

There's more, but that's the essence of it.

edit: Firing the ball at the coach is not within the "spirit of sportsmanship."

 

[Cowtown]

Then they let at least 1 T go. There was another time he was a few feet into the court up near midcourt complaining about a non call.

There's a lot of grey in that. You're not obliged to T him just because he's out of the box and talking at you, but the rule says you're justified if you choose to (which you would if he's being abusive). If he's out but not being abusive, you walk him back to the box during a dead ball. Like a lot of situations, you have to use your knowledge of the rule and your best judgment. And the common practice is you give him a warning first unless it's really abusive.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Well, I ref in FIBA, and the rule on technical fouls is pretty much the same, IIRC. It's very broadly written for the purpose of wide application, and it states ...

Art. 38 Technical foul
38.1 Rules of conduct
38.1.1 The proper conduct of the game demands the full and loyal cooperation of the players and team bench personnel with the officials, table officials and commissionner, if present.
38.1.2 Each team shall do its best to secure victory, but this must be done in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.
38.1.3 Any deliberate or repeated non-cooperation or non-compliance with the spirit and intent of this rule shall be considered as a technical foul.

There's more, but that's the essence of it.

Given that, I can see the player getting a T, as well as being angry about it since the opposing coach was violating the spirit of sportsmanship by being on the floor.

 

[samspann1]

Isn't there a written rule about coaches and the box?

Enforced about as often as hand checks are

 

[orangetrojan]

There are literally hundreds of pictures of Dixon on the court, in this pose

Somebody get that guy a box of depends

 

[Cowtown]

Enforced about as often as hand checks are

It's got to be left to the judgment of the official. For if the guy's close to the line and I talk him down, he now owes me. And if he does it again and I stick him, he has nothing to complain about.

I'm frustrated with the lack of handcheck fouls as well, but I can't change that all by myself, so I have to be consistent with the way it's handled everywhere else. :noidea:

 

[suttree]

There are literally hundreds of pictures of Dixon on the court, in this pose

Oh, the things Lawrinson could do with those squat shots.

Of course, Pitt shiznitting the bed would require a backdrop of the first or second round of the NCAAs

 

[tee1222]

Turgeon also said even though they lost he felt Maryland is the better team. Guy must have missed the first 35 minutes

Definition of delusional: Thinking and saying your team is better than 26-2 when you are a lofty 15-13, 7-8 in conference and haven't beaten a ranked team. You're the best Maryland!