Army Attendance

[FrancoPizza]

it will be your best 4.5 hours of your weekend.

Fixed

 

[storange]

The map is looking more sparse than WMU, but I can't tell... The away lower bowl looks very empty at this time

Incorrect, defiantly more sold then WMU.

 

[Bayside44]

That could be true but remember that NC State game last year there was a night game and SU promoted the ever loving crap out of it. Not saying a decent amount of tickets wont move late especially for Army as some buzz builds but Clemson losing this week and the Noon kick will be major weights around the neck of a 45K+ attendance number.

It was 3:30. Clemson is still a big brand and the hype around them and these crazy close games we play with them will be pushed.

 

[cusefan88]

Remember with the loss of seats and the renovations coming, prices are absolutely going to go up

That's fine. I have season tickets and will continue to pay because I love this city, school, and program. They always got my support.

 

[690West]

That's fine. I have season tickets and will continue to pay because I love this city, school, and program. They always got my support.

Amen. Take my money. All of it. Just let me walk into the bubble 6 times a year until I’m gone.

 

[storange]

Amen. Take my money. All of it. Just let me walk into the bubble 6 times a year until I’m gone.

Ditto, we’ll maybe not all of it.

 

[rocfan44]

Keep in mind too. Clemson game is the last chance to see the team in the Dome until November!!! Need to pack that place for Clemson.

 

[UpstateSM]

Amen. Take my money. All of it. Just let me walk into the bubble 6 times a year until I’m gone.

Preferably 7 times a year like a real winning P5 program.

 

[Dcuse]

Fixed

Did you skip the part where I said “ competent referees?” Please read everything.
Fixed.

 

[NYCCuse826]

32.5K. High of 72 and mostly cloudy should get a few more people in the Dome, but it's not going to crack 40 until next weekend when Clemson comes and Syracuse takes care of business.

 

[Tom W.]

Easy way to boost attendance and help out a military family -

Military Appreciation vs Army

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[Cusefan95]

It was 3:30. Clemson is still a big brand and the hype around them and these crazy close games we play with them will be pushed.

Agree. I think people underestimate exactly how lazy and indifferent people are generally, and how that applies to a casual fan’s decision to purchase tickets to a game. It would be far too much effort to click through a few ESPN pages to see how Clemson is doing for a lot of people - they’ll think Clemson is good, Syracuse at 4-0 could be a good game - and they’ll buy tickets if they don’t feel like pretending to rake leaves was more important.

However. the fact people are lazy and indifferent works against getting many large crowds, because most casual fans assume Syracuse is still mediocre at best - that’s why a string of consecutive bowl appearances and top 25 finishes are really key to getting consistently larger crowds.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Guessing 36K announced for this one. Assuming we win, no excuse for the Clemson game to not be 45K at least, don’t care if it’s noon or that Clemson could be 2-2. I may be disappointed but it SHOULD be that high, with it also being Homecoming Weekend

Clemson should be a good crowd because the 2 games after are duds BC is bad and we play them every year and Wake is Thanksgiving weekend and is another annual opponent. People aren't going to pass on going to Clemson bc they are waiting to attend one of those games.

 

[JeremyCuse]

It was 3:30. Clemson is still a big brand and the hype around them and these crazy close games we play with them will be pushed.

True and I suspect that will get us to 40K buts in seats but the Noon start is going to hurt and the hype won't be nearly as much if Clemson is 2-2.

 

[Chip]

True and I suspect that will get us to 40K buts in seats but the Noon start is going to hurt and the hype won't be nearly as much if Clemson is 2-2.

Not to mention that Clemson usually brings a pretty big crowd. How many make the trip for a 2-2 team with an offense still trying to figure itself out?

If Clemson wins Saturday, I think it's a big crowd. Not a sellout but 45k range.

If Clemson loses, I think it's smaller than what we'd want an SU-Clemson game to be. 40k, maybe 42k with a late push and cheaper seats.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Not to mention that Clemson usually brings a pretty big crowd. How many make the trip for a 2-2 team with an offense still trying to figure itself out?

If Clemson wins Saturday, I think it's a big crowd. Not a sellout but 45k range.

If Clemson loses, I think it's smaller than what we'd want an SU-Clemson game to be. 40k, maybe 42k with a late push and cheaper seats.

I think that's pretty much spot on. I mentioned the same thing about Clemson traveling as well. They will still bring decent numbers and probably more then any other opponent this year but if they are 2-2 a huge traveling crowd is unlikely as anyone on the fence is probably staying put and Clemson has played at SU enough times where the novelty of traveling to see the Dome etc has probably worn off.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Remember with the loss of seats and the renovations coming, prices are absolutely going to go up

They don't really have to go up by much. For instance this year we will likely have one game over future capacity (but it might be zero). That lost revenue won't be a lot. If you divide that lost revenue by the 7 home games (maybe 8 if we lose Army), to break even is about $2 per seat per game.

But that is just in comparison to this season. In 2022 we had 3 games well over capacity. In 2021 we had zero but Covid restrictions kept attendance down. In 2019 we had 2 games. From 2013-2018 we had one game total.

So really over the last 10 attended seasons (no 2020, also our ACC history) we have had 7 games go over future capacity (maybe 8 with Clemson this year). There won't be a lot of lost revenue.

Tickets prices should be tied to demand still. If we are getting only 37.5k per game, it would be foolish to hike the ticket prices. If we are getting 42.5k per game, it would be silly to not hike the ticket prices.

Also give the STHs a break. If we have 25k STHs don't jack up prices for them. Instead jack up prices for games in high demand. Charge an arm and a leg for the 15-20k single game tickets to Clemson. Which incentivizes more STH sales.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Going to throw this in here...

Since joining the ACC:

Over 50k
1. Clemson 2019 50,249

47.5k to 50k
2. Notre Dame 2022 49,861
3. NC State 2022 49,705
4. Clemson 2013 48,961

45k to 47.5k
5. FSU 2022 45,213

42.5k to 45k
6. Pitt 2019 44,886
7. FSU 2014 43,295
8. LSU 2015 43,101
9. BC 2019 42,857
10. Louisville 2018 42,797

40k to 42.5k
11. Clemson 2017 42,475
12. Nova 2014 41,189
13. NC State 2014 40,787
14. NC State 2018 40,769
15. Western Michigan 2019 40,700
16. Holy Cross 2019 40,575
17. Maryland 2014 40,511

37.5k to 40k
18. Duke 2014 39,331
19. Wake 2021 38,554
20. Wake 2013 38,550
21. Wake 2017 38,539
22. Louisville 2014 37,569

35k to 37.5k
23. FSU 2018 37,457
24. BC 2013 37,406
25. Louisville 2022 37,110
26. Clemson 2015 36,736
27. Clemson 2021 36,670
28. UConn 2018 36,632
29. Tulane 2013 36,128
30. Purdue 2022 35,493
31. Pitt 2013 35,317
32. UNC 2018 35,210

32.5k to 35k
33. NC State 2016 34,842
34. UVA 2022 34,590
35. VA Tech 2016 33,838
36. Wake 2019 33,719
37. Wagner 2022 33,373
38. Wagner 2013 33,299
39. Pitt 2017 33,290
40. Central Michigan 2017 33,004
41. Western Michigan 2023 32,637

30k to 32.5k
42. Colgate 2023 32,465
43. FSU 2016 32,340
44. USF 2016 32,288
45. Louisville 2016 32,184
46. BC 2021 32,022
47. Rutgers 2021 31,941
48. Colgate 2016 31,336
49. BC 2015 30,317
50. Central CT 2017 30,273
51. BC 2017 30,202
52. Albany 2021 30,156
53. Rhode Island 2015 30,112

Below 30k
54. Liberty 2021 29,942
55. Pitt 2015 29,832
56. Middle Tenn 2017 29,731
57. Wagner 2018 29,395
58. Central Michigan 2015 27,949
59. Pitt 2021 27,939
60. Wake 2015 26,670

 

[upperdeck]

the lack of urgency to get tickets also leads to less being bought for the lesser games

the ease of resale also hurts sales

less availability hopefully leads to more ST

 

[007]

FWIW, Dome event management is expecting the largest crowd for Army to date this season.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Some averages from the above.

Total Avg: 36,405 Median: 35,405
FCS Avg: 33,217 Median: 31,901
G5 Avg: 33,223 Median: 32,637
OOC P5 Avg: 40,181 Median: 40,511
ACC Avg: 37,562 Median: 37,258


Teams we have played more than once:

Clemson (5 games)
Avg: 43,018
Median: 42,475

NC State (4)
Avg: 41,526
Median: 40,778

FSU (4)
Avg: 39,576
Median: 40,376

Louisville (4)
Avg: 37,415
Median: 37,340

WMU (2)
Avg/Median: 36,669

Wake (5)
Avg: 35,206
Median: 38,539

BC (5)
Avg: 34,561
Median: 32,022

Pitt (5)
Avg: 34,253
Median: 33,290

Wagner (3)
Avg: 32,022
Median: 33,299

Colgate (2)
Avg/Median: 31,901

CMU (2)
Avg/Median: 30,477

 

[JeremyCuse]

FWIW, Dome event management is expecting the largest crowd for Army to date this season.

I would sure hope so. In other Breaking News I am expecting to get drunk on Saturday.

 

[CanadianSU]

In a way I get the crowds a bit for the first two. Of course I am a diehard but even I was taking some plays off in those games, it’s a just an absolute destruction of a game. Having said that, let’s do it again!

 

[Eric15]

FWIW, Dome event management is expecting the largest crowd for Army to date this season.

That Dome event management, they're always on the ball. You can't get anything past them.

 

[David321]

Stubhub reads that the Army game is “selling fast”. Not sure if that is a marketing gimmick from them or legit.