Ash is out?

[CuseLegacy]

I figuratively want to kick some people in the shins.

I prefer the good hard thump on the back of the head method.

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

I respect him for how he went about many things. Even if I didn't like him as a person I still would have said the same thing. It may not be likely that he gets a p 5 HC gig but to say never! It's excessive and I get its your opinion but I don't get that overall statement.

I appreciate that you like him, but show me an example of where a P5 coach failed so badly, 37% win percentage badly, received another shot at a major P5 gig? I can't think of one.

 

[FAL]

I prefer the good hard thump on the back of the head method.

Uh-uh! Haven't we had enough concussions around this program? Stick with a kick to the shins or perhaps to a more vulnerable, soft tissue part of the body if warranted. (Yes... you know where I was thinking.)

 

[SUfanNC]

I appreciate that you like him, but show me an example of where a P5 coach failed so badly, 37% win percentage badly, received another shot at a major P5 gig? I can't think of one.

Since power 5 hasn't been around long I would say 0. If he got a HC gig at a non power 5 and did well you are saying he wouldn't get a look from a power 5 team. Statement I responded to said he would never get a p5 HC gig. Again you can say what you want and have opinions but my whole point is you can not say never!

 

[Louie and Bouie]

The offense has regressed every year he's been here. The defense cratered this year.

The best player was the punter.

False. Offense improved by 35% in points/drive this year over last year which was the 9th biggest increase in FBS this year. But lets continue to not deal with the defensive deficiencies and the limited snaps when we push the total offense narrative.

Maybe the offense wasn't the air raid everyone seemingly wants (who knows if it works here with below avg. talent) but it didn't regress. That's simply wrong.

Edit: Credit to David Hale - ESPN ACC writer for the offensive improvement statistic

 

[CuseLegacy]

Uh-uh! Haven't we had enough concussions around this program? Stick with a kick to the shins (or perhaps to a more vulnerable, soft tissue part of the body if warranted. (Yes... you know where I was thinking.)

I'm not sure the kick in the shin method works. I did that to my husband the first night we met...he was a little drunk. Decades later he is still here.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I prefer the good hard thump on the back of the head method.

Ok, Gibbs.

 

[Millhouse]

False. Offense improved by 35% in points/drive this year over last year which was the 9th biggest increase in FBS this year. But lets continue to not deal with the defensive deficiencies and the limited snaps when we push the total offense narrative.

Maybe the offense wasn't the air raid everyone seemingly wants (who knows if it works here with below avg. talent) but it didn't regress. That's simply wrong.

Edit: Credit to David Hale - ESPN ACC writer for the offensive improvement statistic

i'm skeptical. if that includes punt returns and defensive scores, it's definitely junk.

i can't find data showing the number of possessions

 

[Alsacs]

False. Offense improved by 35% in points/drive this year over last year which was the 9th biggest increase in FBS this year. But lets continue to not deal with the defensive deficiencies and the limited snaps when we push the total offense narrative.

Maybe the offense wasn't the air raid everyone seemingly wants (who knows if it works here with below avg. talent) but it didn't regress. That's simply wrong.

Edit: Credit to David Hale - ESPN ACC writer for the offensive improvement statistic

We scored 47 vs. URI vs. 29 against Nova last year.
We scored 20 points in 4 OTs this year.
We had 3 Def TDs and 2 Special teams TDs.
We scored 327 total point this year. We scored 205 total points last year.
Those extra 73 points from non-offense/OT TDs inflate the points increase. We scored 59 more regulation offensive points

Instead of our offense being alltime embarrassment it just was sub-par.
If this year's staff wins one more game they are still here but they didn't.

 

[PhatOrange]

We scored 47 vs. URI vs. 29 against Nova last year.
We scored 20 points in 4 OTs this year.
We had 3 Def TDs and 2 Special teams TDs.
We scored 327 total point this year. We scored 205 total points last year.
Those extra 73 points from non-offense/OT TDs inflate the points increase. We scored 59 more regulation offensive points

Instead of our offense being alltime embarrassment it just was sub-par.
If this year's staff wins one more game they are still here but they didn't.

i'm not getting into this argument but you shouldn't exclude the OT points.

 

[Alsacs]

When you only score 205 points the previous year total an increase of 35.9% is not shocking at all. The fact it was only the 9th highest increase is not something screams good jobs.

I mean c'mon. It would be like saying we had the #1 total D in the country after the URI game. I bet our pass D ranking is over inflated because of the URI and BC games. We were a terrible pass D this year but those 2 games probably put us in the 80's nationally.

 

[DPCuse]

When you only score 205 points the previous year total an increase of 35.9% is not shocking at all. The fact it was only the 9th highest increase is not something screams good jobs.

I mean c'mon. It would be like saying we had the #1 total D in the country after the URI game. I bet our pass D ranking is over inflated because of the URI and BC games. We were a terrible pass D this year but those 2 games probably put us in the 80's nationally.

I don't know the answer to this myself so forgive me but did we have any OT points or defensive TDs last year?

 

[HeaterCuse22]

We scored 47 vs. URI vs. 29 against Nova last year.
We scored 20 points in 4 OTs this year. (2014 we scored 10 points in 2 OT)
We had 3 Def TDs and 2 Special teams TDs. (2014 we had 2 Def TD)
We scored 327 total point this year. We scored 205 total points last year.
Those extra 73 points from non-offense/OT TDs inflate the points increase. We scored 59 more regulation offensive points

(So the math has to be adjusted slightly to 49 points from non-offense/OT TDs inflate the points increase. We scored 49 more regulation offensive points )

Instead of our offense being alltime embarrassment it just was sub-par.
If this year's staff wins one more game they are still here but they didn't.

Just playing devils advocate here but not to engage in a long discussion because whats done is done. Not a huge discrepancy but apples to apples.

 

[Alsacs]

Hale said we had 14 more TDs and 2 less FGs.

So an extra 78 points. That is including the 3 OT TDs. I give the offensive a credit for improving but last year was so bad improvement was obvious. I give Lester credit for being the bright spot this year but our offense was still sub-par. It was vastly improved from last year though.

 

[SUfanNC]

Hale said we had 14 more TDs and 2 less FGs.

So an extra 78 points. That is including the 3 OT TDs. I give the offensive a credit for improving but last year was so bad improvement was obvious. I give Lester credit for being the bright spot this year but our offense was still sub-par. It was vastly improved from last year though.

What were you expecting a top 30 offense?

 

[Alsacs]

What were you expecting a top 30 offense?

Who said anything about a top 30 offense. I only said improvement was obvious to happen and I gave credit to Lester for being okay.

If SS's D wasn't poor and just a little worse than average he would have won another game and still been here.

This 35.9% garbage is what I am talking about. Of course we are going to be a lot better. We had too our offense in 2014 was bottom 5 in the nation.

 

[SUfanNC]

Who said anything about a top 30 offense. I only said improvement was obvious to happen and I gave credit to Lester for being okay.

If SS's D wasn't poor and just a little worse than average he would have won another game and still been here.

This 35.9% garbage is what I am talking about. Of course we are going to be a lot better. We had too our offense in 2014 was bottom 5 in the nation.

Just gauging what your expectation were. i read the subpar line and was curious what your expectation were with a freshman QB

 

[Louie and Bouie]

False. Offense improved by 35% in points/drive this year over last year which was the 9th biggest increase in FBS this year. But lets continue to not deal with the defensive deficiencies and the limited snaps when we push the total offense narrative.

Maybe the offense wasn't the air raid everyone seemingly wants (who knows if it works here with below avg. talent) but it didn't regress. That's simply wrong.

Edit: Credit to David Hale - ESPN ACC writer for the offensive improvement statistic

I was wrong in my interpretation of this statistic. It's incorrect. Still stand by the point that the offense did not regress between last year and this year tho. Just wanted to clear that up.