Athletic Budget Comparison

[sutomcat]

A constant theme in the interviews Dr Gross has been doing about SU joining the ACC is about how joining the ACC will lead to a bigger budget, more competitive budget that will better position Syracuse to compete with schools like Ohio State, Texas and Florida.

Here is a look at the athletic budget for schools in the ACC and Big East for the 2010-11 school year (I only includes a handful of basketball schools in the BE).

You can see Syracuse has a modest budget compared to many other schools it competes against. Look for the SU budget to be expanded in a major way starting next season (it was at $54 million in 2011-12).

Athletic Budgets for 2010-11:

Notre Dame $94 million
Louisville $87 million
FSU $86 million
UVA $72 million
UNC $70 million
Duke $67 million
Boston College $64 million
UConn $62 million
Clemson $60 million
West Virginia $58 million
Maryland $57 million
Miami $57 million
V Tech $56 million
Pittsburgh $56 million
NC State $54 million
Rutgers $53 million
Syracuse $50 million
G Tech $46 million
South Florida $43 million
Wake Forest $42 million
Cincinnati $37 million
St Johns $32 million
Georgetown $31 million
Villanova $29 million


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[007]

Let's hope so, Tom

I would like to see them compete in the Duke-UNC-UVA budget range.

 

[Whitey23]

You can see Syracuse has a modest budget compared to many other schools it competes against. Look for the SU budget to be expanded in a major way starting next season (it was at $54 million in 2011-12).

What do you see that added budget going to besides better facilities?

 

[orangenirvana]

Not great but the way some posters here cry poverty and dole out the excuses for the current coaching staff you would think we'd be in Villanova territory (or worse).

 

[OrangePA]

A constant theme in the interviews Dr Gross has been doing about SU joining the ACC is about how joining the ACC will lead to a bigger budget, more competitive budget that will better position Syracuse to compete with schools like Ohio State, Texas and Florida.

Here is a look at the athletic budget for schools in the ACC and Big East for the 2010-11 school year (I only includes a handful of basketball schools in the BE).

You can see Syracuse has a modest budget compared to many other schools it competes against. Look for the SU budget to be expanded in a major way starting next season (it was at $54 million in 2011-12).

Athletic Budgets for 2010-11:

Notre Dame $94 million
Louisville $87 million
FSU $86 million
UVA $72 million
UNC $70 million
Duke $67 million
Boston College $64 million
UConn $62 million
Clemson $60 million
West Virginia $58 million
Maryland $57 million
Miami $57 million
V Tech $56 million
Pittsburgh $56 million
NC State $54 million
Rutgers $53 million
Syracuse $50 million
G Tech $46 million
South Florida $43 million
Wake Forest $42 million
Cincinnati $37 million
St Johns $32 million
Georgetown $31 million
Villanova $29 million


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=562319
http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2012/3/20/2880533/financial-comparison-acc-athletic-department-budgets-10-11

How about Lousiville?!

 

[jcuse44]

Im most surprised by how high uconn is on this list

 

[Chip]

How about Lousiville?!

BC is surprisingly high as well, for a school that hasn't wanted to pony up for a football coach. All those ice hockey dollar commitments getting in the way?

 

[SU2NASA]

How much of Rutgers' $53 million did they lose?

 

[Scooch]

Do we have any idea what the methodology is for calculating those amounts?

I'm always leery of putting too much credibility into them since we know there are a lot of accounting tricks that go into what's reported. Plus what constitutes "athletic budget" at one school may not be apples-to-apples with the way anohter school allocates "athletic budget".

 

[cusestudent]

Do we have any idea what the methodology is for calculating those amounts?

I'm always leery of putting too much credibility into them since we know there are a lot of accounting tricks that go into what's reported. Plus what constitutes "athletic budget" at one school may not be apples-to-apples with the way anohter school allocates "athletic budget".

Not to mention the fact that SU doesn't have baseball, wrestling, men's hockey, etc.

 

[PhatOrange]

And a full ride at syracuse costs $50k a year which is figured into the budget.

The football team costs 4.25 million a year just for tuition, room and board.

 

[GoSU96]

A constant theme in the interviews Dr Gross has been doing about SU joining the ACC is about how joining the ACC will lead to a bigger budget, more competitive budget that will better position Syracuse to compete with schools like Ohio State, Texas and Florida.

Here is a look at the athletic budget for schools in the ACC and Big East for the 2010-11 school year (I only includes a handful of basketball schools in the BE).

You can see Syracuse has a modest budget compared to many other schools it competes against. Look for the SU budget to be expanded in a major way starting next season (it was at $54 million in 2011-12).

Athletic Budgets for 2010-11:

Notre Dame $94 million
Louisville $87 million
FSU $86 million
UVA $72 million
UNC $70 million
Duke $67 million
Boston College $64 million
UConn $62 million
Clemson $60 million
West Virginia $58 million
Maryland $57 million
Miami $57 million
V Tech $56 million
Pittsburgh $56 million
NC State $54 million
Rutgers $53 million
Syracuse $50 million
G Tech $46 million
South Florida $43 million
Wake Forest $42 million
Cincinnati $37 million
St Johns $32 million
Georgetown $31 million
Villanova $29 million


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=562319
http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2012/3/20/2880533/financial-comparison-acc-athletic-department-budgets-10-11

Expect to see an almost immediate 25% bump in revenues, and in a couple of years expect to be operating with an additional $20M per year, which will equate to budget at the end of the day. As a private institution SU doesn't have access to state funding that public schools do to make up short falls. It has to live within it's means. The move to the ACC will be a huge injection of cash into the program.

Here is the revenue profile for Private D-1 schools for 2010. With the bump SU is going to receive they are going to be in an excellent position relative to their peers.

 

[GoSU96]

Do we have any idea what the methodology is for calculating those amounts?

I'm always leery of putting too much credibility into them since we know there are a lot of accounting tricks that go into what's reported. Plus what constitutes "athletic budget" at one school may not be apples-to-apples with the way anohter school allocates "athletic budget".

What Tom has here as budgets are reported expense for the year.

 

[GoSU96]

Do we have any idea what the methodology is for calculating those amounts?

I'm always leery of putting too much credibility into them since we know there are a lot of accounting tricks that go into what's reported. Plus what constitutes "athletic budget" at one school may not be apples-to-apples with the way anohter school allocates "athletic budget".

Every school allocates revenues and expenses differently but at a rolled up level it shows the dollars each school is spending.

 

[rrlbees]

Expect to see an almost immediate 25% bump in revenues, and in a couple of years expect to be operating with an additional $20M per year, which will equate to budget at the end of the day. As a private institution SU doesn't have access to state funding that public schools do to make up short falls. It has to live within it's means. The move to the ACC will be a huge injection of cash into the program.

Here is the revenue profile for Private D-1 schools for 2010. With the bump SU is going to receive they are going to be in an excellent position relative to their peers.

With the exception of ND and USC, SU is pretty competetive with the other private schools in football revenue.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

Expect to see an almost immediate 25% bump in revenues, and in a couple of years expect to be operating with an additional $20M per year, which will equate to budget at the end of the day. As a private institution SU doesn't have access to state funding that public schools do to make up short falls. It has to live within it's means. The move to the ACC will be a huge injection of cash into the program.

Here is the revenue profile for Private D-1 schools for 2010. With the bump SU is going to receive they are going to be in an excellent position relative to their peers.

While public schools do theoretically have access to state revenues to make up shortfalls, certain states are more likely to look favorably on big time college athletics than others. Ironically, the states most likely to look favorably on college athletics (football in particular) are southern states with relatively low support for the "social safety net" and state university athletic departments that (FSU excepted) have pretty strong balance sheets. Governments in the northeast and rustbelt are less likely to want to fork over big bucks to support athletics budgets. UCONN and Rutgers have been anomolies but looking forward I don't like the prognosis for either school in terms of state support of their football and other athletics programs.

 

[OrangeHeel]

Expect to see an almost immediate 25% bump in revenues, and in a couple of years expect to be operating with an additional $20M per year, which will equate to budget at the end of the day. As a private institution SU doesn't have access to state funding that public schools do to make up short falls. It has to live within it's means. The move to the ACC will be a huge injection of cash into the program.

Here is the revenue profile for Private D-1 schools for 2010. With the bump SU is going to receive they are going to be in an excellent position relative to their peers.

If you limit Go's PDF to just men's revenue, we're third on the list behing ND & Duke. Not bad.

 

[Moontan]

Here is the revenue profile for Private D-1 schools for 2010. With the bump SU is going to receive they are going to be in an excellent position relative to their peers.

You forgot about Tulsa.

 

[OrangePA]

BC is surprisingly high as well, for a school that hasn't wanted to pony up for a football coach. All those ice hockey dollar commitments getting in the way?

BC has a huge endowment and has received large chunks of football money support from the Yawkey Foundation.

 

[OrangePA]

Expect to see an almost immediate 25% bump in revenues, and in a couple of years expect to be operating with an additional $20M per year, which will equate to budget at the end of the day. As a private institution SU doesn't have access to state funding that public schools do to make up short falls. It has to live within it's means. The move to the ACC will be a huge injection of cash into the program.

Here is the revenue profile for Private D-1 schools for 2010. With the bump SU is going to receive they are going to be in an excellent position relative to their peers.

This is the next phase for the Syracuse Football Program.

Each phase has followed a down period.

After Schwartzwalder took over, Archbold Stadium was expanded.

At the end of the Maloney era the Carrier Dome was built.

And now the move to the ACC with all of the financial upgrades that it will entail.

I believe that the move and the financial benefits of the move will improve our talent level and success rate on the field.

If I had to start a college football team the first thing I'd select is money.

 

[GoSU96]

This is the next phase for the Syracuse Football Program.

Each phase has followed a down period.

After Schwartzwalder took over, Archbold Stadium was expanded.

At the end of the Maloney era the Carrier Dome was built.

And now the move to the ACC with all of the financial upgrades that it will entail.

I believe that the move and the financial benefits of the move will improve our talent level and success rate on the field.

If I had to start a college football team the first thing I'd select is money.

The fact is that the football program is reporting $19M in football revenue with depressed ticket sales and BE payouts.

 

[OrangePA]

The fact is that the football program is reporting $19M in football revenue with depressed ticket sales and BE payouts.

Is that good or bad?

 

[rrlbees]

Is that good or bad?

I took it as good.

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[bnoro]

What do you see that added budget going to besides better facilities?

retaining coaches such as Wheatley and being able to hire better ones (if the situation arises)

 

[CusefanATL]

Not great but the way some posters here cry poverty and dole out the excuses for the current coaching staff you would think we'd be in Villanova territory (or worse).

they dont have a d1 football team to cover... thats prob 2 mil a year in coaches salaries alone