You hit on a major point: SU NEEDS to play at least one game in NYC (preferably MSG) per year. I don’t care if it’s a tournament, St. John’s, Seton Hall, Rutgers, or a random game like Duke seems to somehow do. It absolutely has to happen and is a travesty that we don’t play a single game in NYC this season, let alone haven’t played at MSG in 5 years.
Hopefully this doesn't transcend into politics. But basically, a lot of the time schools have a sticker price and then lower it for specific demographics that they want to target. I can personally speak to at least one well known private in upstate NY that did/does that.
I think that equation has changed in the past 10 years. I’d never send my kids to SU at that price, or even thousands less. I love my Alma mater but the degree ain’t worth it. Lots of place to have similar experiences at much lower cost.
I’ll be there at the garden. Screw BARCLAYS. Where even is that.
But it isn't just the specific demographics that you mention. I know someone not part of a specific demographic who just got accepted to Syracuse for next Fall and was given a partial significant academic scholarship. I know another SU student, also not part of a specific demographic, who just graduated last month (a semester early), is staying on to get a masters degree and was given a half academic scholarship. In neither case was it financially based. So while the SU sticker price is high, there are nonfinancial scholarships that often are awarded to reduce it significantly. In both cases the students are going to, or graduated from, specialized schools at SU, not liberal arts.
Brooklyn
Aside from the snow which doesn’t affect practice or games, why would a coach really care about having the fancier nightclubs and elitist shopping/dining that you’d find in an economically booming city?
Dude he’s saying other factors like the city and weather don’t matter.
This. It's a Top 15 job if we spend like it's a Top 15 job. It's a top 30 job if we spend like it's a top 30 job. That's the current landscape.
I got 0 dollars to go, they’re very stingy.
Siena.
They didn’t “pay”, when we were great (partly on JB), so it seems like the expectation may be they can’t or don’t have to. I would let others speak to that
Because that’s what top tier athletes who are making bank now will want? Actually just thought of that because of the way you posed your question.
I struggle to believe anyone in the administration is dumb enough to believe the sweetheart deal with JB is the norm and/or repeatable
Not just demographics. All schools adjust their msrp to get a full load of students to generate enough revenue to cover their budget. There are kinda three ways to get there in descending order of the admin’s preference: either take more students at full sticker (generally foreign students), reduce costs to get more acceptances from their qualified applicant pool, or lower standards for admissions.
Have you ever been to Lexington?
Amen. And MSG >>> Barclays.
No one these days is pulling coaches from other power programs these days though unless you’re Kentucky and even then they got their 8th choice.
Pure nonsense. What top program has pulled a head coach from another top program in recent past. Go ahead and name them... Coaches rarely switch between P4 schools. That's the truth. Look at the top 15 ranked programs right now and count how many have poached their coach from a supposed top 15 program. You won't find one. And no Beard or Sampson re-emerging after scandals do not count. UM, Zona, UConn, Zags, Bama, etc. Where did each coach come from. Midmajor or in Zona's case directly as an assistant. Even Duke and UNC. Can go on and on.
Come on it happens. Mick Cronin. Andy Einfield. Buzz Williams. Chris Beard. Shaka. It still happens when a school is serious about getting a coach. Also goofy Ed Cooley at goofy Georgetown
None of those guys were top 15. Beard sure but he was canned. Cronin was viewed as a major bust of a hire at the time after a middling career at Cincy. Buzz, sure solid but we are not talking top dog. Shaka was run out of town in Austin. Literally no basis for your argument.
