The parallels between the Syracuse football program and the Boston College basketball program firing solid coaches and the programs Falling apart is kind of crazy.
BC fires Jim Christian / hires Earl Grant
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elimunelson
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Mike's interview was a disaster by all accounts. They know they made a mistake not hiring him in hindsight. I think BC TBH should have hired Jim Calhoun at the time. At least bring in a guy who would bring instant legitimacy to the program. He's too old now but that was the hire in 2013.
Definition of insanity is doing same thing again expecting different result. Thats hiring another MAC or mid major guy. Program needs an enema. Bring in someone from a larger program who can build it out with that in mind. Gerry is a winner. Sometimes that's all it takes if he can bring in the right assistants and get the school to actually care again about basketball
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You don’t hire GMAC or any coach with no head coach experience. BC is not an easy or desirable job.
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Worked well at Syracuse?
BC needs to be bold and try something that may be outside the box. Jeff Hafley wasn't a HC before he took over the football program (which i argue is harder to do).
He's completely gotten a buy in from fans again about the trajectory of the program. He comes from a big time program and has brought a chip on the shoulder mentality.
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JB was hired 45 years ago for $25,000. It was an ECAC program at the time. BC is in a major conference and not just anybody is going to turn that program around. They can’t recruit. If you think SU’s recruiting is suspect, BC’s has been dreadful.
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my point is Jim Boeheim was (and is) a special hire. It was a risky hire but it paid off in spades for Syracuse. They need to find a special hire. The normal "hey this guy has been halfway successful at Vermont" isn't going to be the answer if the last two of those didn't work at all.
They need to be very bold because frankly they have nothing to lose. They aren't going to go lower and they aren't getting kicked out of the ACC. The checks still clear. They can try and go for the home run hire and see how it goes. If Gerry is the selection more power to them. We look at the Syracuse program much differently than the peer schools do. They want to be us in basketball. if it's Red or Gerry, that pedigree means something.
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Not good, then Buddy slides in immediately as player/coach.
Not a chance. If the B.C. admin knew for 100% certainty that Rick could bring them a national title, they still wouldn't hire him. That is just the way they roll.
What job is he leaving Lexington for?
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Why? If they, of all schools, could get some of those guys...it bodes very well for who we would be able to get.
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There is always the possibility that admin thought current players would be better served being coached by the staff minus Christian until the replacement is hired.
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Only thing that might make the Bonnie HC stay is...allllllll of those players are juniors and all will be back. They will be very very good next year and might go all in next year and capitalize like Oats did and jet set outta there before the rebuild begins
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Also makes the worst program in the league better automatically. It was nice to have Pitt as a bottom dweller, now we lose to them, I really don’t want BC to be decent.
Beilein might like to get a college job again. The BC people would be thrilled just to have winning seasons so not a lot of pressure for much more. He'd probably have them better than us in short order. Good thing we can count on BC to make dumb decisions.
for 2 weeks? Not to mention that they had him on the coaches call this morning. A bad look from B.C.. they should have waited the two weeks and if they weren't they should have told him before the call.
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Maybe. But the % of guys that can win there is small. They are a highly selective school academically and they never give their coaches a break about that. Large reason why Jim O'Brien left way back when. Plus, it's not like they have a fertile recruiting territory. When they have had success in the past, it was because they got some under recruited kids that they hit big on. Skinner was either very good at that or very lucky. As far as ACC jobs, where would you rank them as far as places that are easy to win at? they would be close to the top in hardest place to win at, I think.
I gotta ask why you don’t think BC is in a fertile recruiting location? I see about 25 million people and a few dozen prep schools between in between Boston and NYC. What’s not to love about that?
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I’d bet dollars to donuts one of our 3 leaves for a gig this years
the New England area, how many real good kids come from there each year? And it isn't like it's all B.C.. There is Providence, UConn., Umass., it's just not a great area. I have lived here all of my life other than when I went to school in the holy land. And once B.C. steps out of the region, they are behind the 8 ball. I brought up the school admission requirements earlier. Very difficult. I'm not joking that Tommy Amaker might have more trouble getting a kid he wants in to Harvard. B.C. isn't Harvard but Harvard will bend a bit. B.C. won't.
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Jim c could coach just couldnt get the roster, i know some same those two things are on in the same but i always thought he got a lot of what he had
(Don’t make me defend BC, please)
There is talent there in New England. And BC should be able to mine some of it. Well, I should say, the right coach should be able to get their fair share.
There are over 20 first- or second-round picks on this list of players born in Massachusetts. Overly simple list, yes, but it speaks to the talent.
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And I see no reason BC cannot recruit NYC, Philly and Balt/DC. Lots of private schools there. Again, all this is predicated on the right coaching hire.
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That is over how many years? Over a lot of years, that isn't all that impressive. I saw Best name on there and he was a long time ago. I saw him in high school back in 1989. Plus, how many of those guys could get in to B.C.? I don't know the answer to that but I would bet on the under whatever that was. I just looked at it again, there was a guy from 1950 on that list. Honestly, you just made my point.(Don’t make me defend BC, please)
There is talent there in New England. And BC should be able to mine some of it. Well, I should say, the right coach should be able to get their fair share.
There are over 20 first- or second-round picks on this list of players born in Massachusetts. Overly simple list, yes, but it speaks to the talent.
List of all the NBA and ABA Players Born in Massachusetts | Basketball-Reference.com
Get the list of all the NBA and ABA Players Born in Massachusetts on Basketball-Reference.com
And I see no reason BC cannot recruit NYC, Philly and Balt/DC. Lots of private schools there. Again, all this is predicated on the right coaching hire.