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Before we totally freak out...

longislandcuse said:
Today was one of the most embarrassing performances I have ever seen from this team.
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The above statement is the most hyperbolic hyperbole in the history of mankind.

And if you thought today was embarassing, clearly you never witnessed early 90s losses to both East Carolina and Tulane

OR losses such as:

49-0 to Miami and 43-0 to WVU in 1993

OR

31-0 to BC in 1994

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62-0 to VT and 24-21 to a horrible Rutgers team in 1999

OR

59-0 to Miami in 2001

OR

51-7 to VT in 2003

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51-0 to Purdue and 34-24 to a terrible Temple in 2004

OR seemingly every game over four seasons from 2005 through 2008 under Gerg

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59-3 to FSU in 2013... And the list could go on.

The defense didn't look strong today, but it was far from an "embarrassing performance" - especially since SU won AND won with multiple key players out.

Remember, a more productive offense takes pressure off the defense and gives them time to both rest and regroup.
 
OttosBestFriend said:
The above statement is the most hyperbolic hyperbole in the history of mankind.

And if you thought today was embarassing, clearly you never witnessed early 90s losses to both East Carolina and Tulane

OR losses such as:

49-0 to Miami and 43-0 to WVU in 1993

OR

31-0 to BC in 1994

OR

62-0 to VT and 24-21 to a horrible Rutgers team in 1999

OR

59-0 to Miami in 2001

OR

51-7 to VT in 2003

OR

51-0 to Purdue and 34-24 to a terrible Temple in 2004

OR seemingly every game over four seasons from 2005 through 2008 under Gerg

OR

59-3 to FSU in 2013... And the list could go on.

The defense didn't look strong today, but it was far from an "embarrassing performance" - especially since SU won AND won with multiple key players out.

Remember, a more productive offense takes pressure off the defense and gives them time to both rest and regroup.
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And you do comedy for a living? ;)
 
Earlwolf said:
Im not going to really question the coaching decisions as I am not really a armchair quarterback type of person but I dont know how you cant be incredibly impressed with the heart this team has. Do not forget for a second that these players are kids, they are 18-22 years old and what they showed me today was damn impressive. There is no doubt in my mind that if Dungey doesn't get that cheap shot that SU steamrolls CMU and everyone on this board is saying " Bring on LSU". But Dungey going down means that CMU no longer has to respect SU's air attack, they stack 8 in the box and Syracuse cant get a first down. But this defense that was getting shredded in the 3rd quarter, some how manages to get a turnover, then another turnover. The Defense that is deflated going into OT stops CMU and holds them to a field goal, That offense that didnt get a 1st down in the second half somehow manages to score the Winning TD in OT. Thats Heart, you cant teach that, you either have it or you don't. I guarantee you these kids learned more about themselves today than they would have if Dungey didn't get hurt, lessons like these are what turns a kid into a man. They didn't give up, they didn't stop grinding, and they picked up one of the hardest victories of their life. A lot of teams would have lost if they faced the adversity Syracuse did today and I am damn proud they are "MY" team right.
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Thank you.
 
longislandcuse said:
Everything is a moral victory and life lesson with him, and that's great and all but we need a lot more than that to return to prominence.
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Dungey Fr
Fredericks Fr
Strickland Fr
Ishmael So

The excitement is back. We'll get better. Enjoy the ride
 
Not sure why people think the MAC is bad? Toledo beat Arkansas, Bowling Green beat Maryland, Northern Illinois lost to Ohio State by 7, Kent State lost to Minny by 3, CMU lost to OK State by 11. We were rolling before Dungey and Ish got hurt. After that the offense shut down and the D was on the field way too much. All this whining after a win over a pretty solid team with a QB who may reach the NFL is weak. If we can get most of our kids back by USF, Dungey the most crucial, we will be ok
 
longislandcuse said:
I live in Atlanta but flew up for ND last year and watched us get dismantled by Ga Tech 2 years ago.

I don't know why anyone would want to get season tickets to Syracuse Football though. Seriously, aside from fierce loyalty, why would anyone want to buy season tix to this team, with this coach and this style?

Today was one of the most embarrassing performances I have ever seen from this team. It showed how embarrassingly far off we are from competing on a serious level. I don't expect us to ball out with these injuries but I do expect competence and a higher than High School Varsity level performance.
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For those who know me, I'm pretty level headed and I was upset as anyone how this game unfolded, BUT do me and all REAL fans a favor take the Cuse out of your handle and stop following this team. I have season tickets and there is a lot to like about this team and the future that includes the staff. If you can't see that and the problems that affected t his game, then you really should step away from watching and commenting.
 
TheCusian said:
Also we have had top 40 ranked D's for most of the past 7 years soooo? I'm not happy with the secondary - but they are young and inconsistent. And they will get better.
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I am a big Wayne Morgan fan, but he looked as bad as everyone else in the secondary. He got smoked on the play down the sideline. My point is is that they all have work to do if we are going to go to a bowl. This game will be a lesson for the remainder of the season.
 
how anyone didn't think the secondary would struggle this year is beyond me. Aside from Whig and Morgan it's all freshman and sophomores who've never played.

The safeties are poor right now, young and inexperienced. Plus they're tiny.

Lots of the passes went over the linebackers and the TEs killed us. The linebackers were pretty poor in coverage today.

I didn't actually think the corners were that bad, a couple here and there but not much. Did they even throw at Winfield?
 
Who is our best cover linebacker? Do we even have one? Or are they the same, good run stuffer/blitzer...
 
orangencpolice said:
I am a big Wayne Morgan fan, but he looked as bad as everyone else in the secondary. He got smoked on the play down the sideline. My point is is that they all have work to do if we are going to go to a bowl. This game will be a lesson for the remainder of the season.
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All the Dbacks made poor plays today, but I am tired of hearing how Winfield is this athletic freak, for cripes sake just make your tackles, and be in defensive position keep the dang athletic freak crap.
 
My biggest concern is how bad we are on 3rd down conversions. We can't keep expecting the D to play double the snaps as the offense and win games. We were beat in pretty much every category today except turnovers and final score.

We need to find some plays we can execute at a high level on 3rd down. That is on Lester. Other than our 5-6 big plays the last 2 games we are downright atrocious on offense
 
I continue to be amazed at people who don't realize that the 1st string guy is first string because he's supposed to be better than the second string guy who is supposed to be better than the third string guys, who is supposed to be better than the fourth string guy. They insist that all players are supposed to be just as good as eachother and that a team should be unaffected by injuries to key players. :crazy:
 
TheCusian said:
To their 1st and 2nd string QB's two years in a row? Really?

And no one is getting a pass for last year. The injuries are a part of it. So was the horrible hire and demotion of Mc. . . . it and bad coaching and talent etc.

You cannot write them off like they don't exist. That's not being objective at all.
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Don't forget Long is out right now...he was probably the de facto 2nd stringer behind Hunt if he was healthy.

This thread is ridiculous...when Dungey went out we are a different team...take the win...move on.
 
orangeinohio said:
I know it's the pitiful MAC but I wonder if Cooper Rush is going to be one of the better passing QBs we see this year.
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I was on the field...he threw a great ball...he could make the NFL if he keeps improving.
 
anomander said:
ya, exactly my point. Injuries happen, sometimes in your favor, and sometimes not.
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And my point is you can't discount them as excuses when we play poorly and then use them as reasons why we won when the other team has a bunch.

They play a part in every game, but when it's a QB or 2 - it's magnified.
 
Cuse'91 said:
Who is our best cover linebacker? Do we even have one? Or are they the same, good run stuffer/blitzer...
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Bennett. But Z. Franklin had that nice INT in the 4th.

Our LB are oozing talent, but because they are young will be inconsistent.
 
TheCusian said:
And my point is you can't discount them as excuses when we play poorly and then use them as reasons why we won when the other team has a bunch.

They play a part in every game, but when it's a QB or 2 - it's magnified.
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Not to mention how many true and RS freshmen are playing. Oh yeah and we are 3-0. Not sure why we have to make excuses. Unless you are Ano
 
djorange1989 said:
Not to mention how many true and RS freshmen are playing. Oh yeah and we are 3-0. Not sure why we have to make excuses. Unless you are Ano
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Part of the reason football is such a fun sport to follow is that there are a bunch of variables to each game. Even stats fail to point an accurate picture. Anybody who says things like "the offense won the game today" or "it came down to that one decision" - are over simplifying.
 

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