Bill Connelly on SU

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full preview http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...yracuse-football-2015-preview-schedule-roster

 

[javadoc]

Marrone said explicitly that he looked for a DC who ran a defense that he would hate to have to prepare against.

 

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(he's been reading this board)

 

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[Chip]

It's become a new tradition (since 2005) for the new Syracuse head coach to pick an initial offensive coordinator who isn't going to work out.

The two previous coaches get some "at least" credit for knowing to pull the plug either during or after that first year. Current coach, he may have dug himself too big a hole by waiting until midway thru the 2nd year. We'll know soon enough.

 

[TheCusian]

You should read the whole article and not just Milly's tweets. It's a great read. Some of which confirms his take (DC as HC) - but you'll notice he didn't include the info about Lester learning the spread. Or that he expects the offense to bounce back and be more consistent. Or all of the info on just how good our defense has been.

Maybe the most fair take I've read so far. I actually came away believing in SS, Lester, and the D coaches MORE.

 

[jekelish]

It really is a reasoned, in depth read. It's just unfortunate that they conspicuously left a certain freshman linebacker off the list of LBs on the roster this year.

As if Shy needed a bigger chip on his shoulder to start knocking heads this year.

 

[Millhouse]

You should read the whole article and not just Milly's tweets. It's a great read. Some of which confirms his take (DC as HC) - but you'll notice he didn't include the info about Lester learning the spread. Or that he expects the offense to bounce back and be more consistent. Or all of the info on just how good our defense has been.

Maybe the most fair take I've read so far. I actually came away believing in SS, Lester, and the D coaches MORE.

headline "The big 2015 Syracuse football preview: Uh-oh"

closing of the intro: "We'll see if a more organized offense can help Shafer stave off hot-seat demons. I'm not optimistic."

i'm sure you loved the reference to the cubit tree

where did he say he expects the offense to be more consistent?

 

[Full_Rebar]

If you are picking holes at that preview, you aren't being objective. It's tough, but fair, and he says SU could improve if the unproven OC has a system that better uses the players, and if the young defense exceeds expectations.

All the guy can go on is the film of the players, and what he believes Lester might try to run based on the Cubit connection and the players he has to work with.

 

[Millhouse]

It's become a new tradition (since 2005) for the new Syracuse head coach to pick an initial offensive coordinator who isn't going to work out.

The two previous coaches get some "at least" credit for knowing to pull the plug either during or after that first year. Current coach, he may have dug himself too big a hole by waiting until midway thru the 2nd year. We'll know soon enough.

the only one of those head coaches who handed the keys to a guy who had any knowledge of college offense was the guy who was the guy that should've been running the offense! We didn't pay marrone a lot to have the Rob Spence offense.

GERG imagined that in college football, it would be tough to face the Denver Broncos, so lets run that. SMART

Shafer thought we could get by with a recruiter buying a high school offense. This actually wasn't the worst idea in the world because I like high school offenses. It's just that recruiter wasn't capable of calling a high school offense.

Connelly's buzzword stuff seems to apply for many years. Spence went crazy with bubbles. Brian white with the pistol hop. McDonald

It's maddening. Go find a cheap guy who knows an offense that's good. Cubit's offense isn't good. It's bad.

 

[djorange1989]

The offense definitely improved late in McF**t-it's first season so I think it was fair to give him that 2nd year, HCSS pulled the plug soon after. Let's hope Lester is the answer.

 

[TheCusian]

headline "The big 2015 Syracuse football preview: Uh-oh"

closing of the intro: "We'll see if a more organized offense can help Shafer stave off hot-seat demons. I'm not optimistic."

i'm sure you loved the reference to the cubit tree

where did he say he expects the offense to be more consistent?

I have no idea why you included the headline or closing intro? Almost every prognosticator is predicting something similar. It's the safer bet.

I did laugh when I saw the Cubit tree bit.

Here's part that you didn't share:

"Despite woeful short-yardage success, Syracuse's line stats (67th in Adj. Line Yards, 49th in Adj. Sack Rate) were far better than the overall offensive stats. That's a good sign considering six players with starting experience return (90 career starts), even if three-year starting tackle Sean Hickey isn't one.

Lester should use Hunt's legs, especially near the goal line. Syracuse averaged just 3.3 points per scoring opportunity last fall, sixth-worst in the country. Opponent adjustments make that number look a little bit better, but the Orange had no confidence when it came to turning chances into points. With a good line and Hunt, that should be less of an issue, even if the offense isn't creating many chances."

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"Lester is promising more downfield looks, and if a running back emerges to form a nice threat with Hunt, that makes sense for taking advantage of a distracted defense. Still, the last system made sense on paper, too." (Notice I include both positive and negative).

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"the offense should get more stable at quarterback but loses every decent big-play threat."

 

[TheCusian]

the only one of those head coaches who handed the keys to a guy who had any knowledge of college offense was the guy who was the guy that should've been running the offense! We didn't pay marrone a lot to have the Rob Spence offense.

GERG imagined that in college football, it would be tough to face the Denver Broncos, so lets run that. SMART

Shafer thought we could get by with a recruiter buying a high school offense. This actually wasn't the worst idea in the world because I like high school offenses. It's just that recruiter wasn't capable of calling a high school offense.

Connelly's buzzword stuff seems to apply for many years. Spence went crazy with bubbles. Brian white with the pistol hop. McDonald

It's maddening. Go find a cheap guy who knows an offense that's good. Cubit's offense isn't good. It's bad.

And there's the crux of the issue I have with you this preseason. ASSUMING that because Cubit's offense is not great - that Lester's must stink too. It's a junk opinion based on speculation. You may be right. But you just don't know. And you haven't admitted that once.

 

[Millhouse]

I have no idea why you included the headline or closing intro? Almost every prognosticator is predicting something similar. It's the safer bet.

I did laugh when I saw the Cubit tree bit.

Here's part that you didn't share:

"Despite woeful short-yardage success, Syracuse's line stats (67th in Adj. Line Yards, 49th in Adj. Sack Rate) were far better than the overall offensive stats. That's a good sign considering six players with starting experience return (90 career starts), even if three-year starting tackle Sean Hickey isn't one.

Lester should use Hunt's legs, especially near the goal line. Syracuse averaged just 3.3 points per scoring opportunity last fall, sixth-worst in the country. Opponent adjustments make that number look a little bit better, but the Orange had no confidence when it came to turning chances into points. With a good line and Hunt, that should be less of an issue, even if the offense isn't creating many chances."

and

"Lester is promising more downfield looks, and if a running back emerges to form a nice threat with Hunt, that makes sense for taking advantage of a distracted defense. Still, the last system made sense on paper, too." (Notice I include both positive and negative).

and

"the offense should get more stable at quarterback but loses every decent big-play threat."

i don't know if that means the offense is more consistent though. more stable at qb doesn't mean more consistent offense because of the loss of gulley and ameen moore

 

[Millhouse]

And there's the crux of the issue I have with you this preseason. ASSUMING that because Cubit's offense is not great - that Lester's must stink too. It's a junk opinion based on speculation. You may be right. But you just don't know. And you haven't admitted that once.

you want to give him credit for being in some spread like cubit offense but you don't want to actually look at whether cubit's offense is any good.

we had a spread offense last year that you keep wanting to distance lester from.

if you want to give him credit for learning offenses, then maybe we should look at how well he learned the n zone over more than a year before running it.

Just now he's learning the spread? Grrreat

 

[TheCusian]

i don't know if that means the offense is more consistent though. more stable at qb doesn't mean more consistent offense because of the loss of gulley and ameen moore

You're really worried about losing those two players? Or West? I disagree with the writer that we should worry about losing those "big play threats" that didn't have that many big plays.

Ish > West
McFarland/Morris/Incoming Freshman = Gulley/Ameen Moore