Bob Chesney

[Crusty]

Dino would've been fine with Dak Prescott. He was only a 3 star at espn. I assume Mullen recruited him. Dino went with Devito, Mullen went with Prescott. It's all a crap shoot. Do we even care about Mullen if he got Prescott wrong? Or should we give him credit for getting it right?

Probably have to give him credit for getting him right. However, it is now indisputable that Devito had the talent Dino just couldn't get it out of him. It took a defensice coach Bret Bielema at the B1G to do that. Really a shame.

 

[Millhouse]

Probably have to give him credit for getting him right. However, it is now indisputable that Devito had the talent Dino just couldn't get it out of him. It took a defensice coach Bret Bielema at the B1G to do that. Really a shame.

fifth year senior with the 58th best passer rating in conference whoopdeedoo

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barely different than shrader's conference numbers.

devito 48 rushes 68 yards 5 TD. 1675 passing yards, 8 TD, 3 int
shrader 102 rushes 299 yards 4 TD. 1564 passing yards 8 TD, 5 int

he has an amazing arm and brian daboll is a great coach

 

[SuFTW]

Probably have to give him credit for getting him right. However, it is now indisputable that Devito had the talent Dino just couldn't get it out of him. It took a defensice coach Bret Bielema at the B1G to do that. Really a shame.

How about it took Devito until his 6th year in college to settle down and play within himself.

 

[PhatOrange]

Chesney's Offensive Coordinator is a guy named Dean Kennedy. Kennedy was on Mullen's Mississippi State staff as a Grad Assistant and then worked under Mullen at Florida for 4 years as an offensive quality control specialist. He was promoted to assistant QB coach for Florida's last game when Mullen left. Went to Holy Cross after Florida.

 

[Millhouse]

How about it took Devito until his 6th year in college to settle down and play within himself.

and he still wasn't that good

 

[PhatOrange]

His WR coach played at BC and was a BC coach under Addazio and Hafley. Was the interim HC when Addazio got fired. Rich Gunnell L

 

[upperdeck]

people got worked up over Mullin without thinking maybe he doesn't have the fire to coach. 2 weeeks ago he said he just wanted to stay on the sidelines and mayve he does. lets see if he goes anyplace. he might never have been an option anyway. the HC guy has played enough D1 P5 to know what it takes and recruiting at SU hasnt been easy for anyone in 25 yrs. better coaching is Worthva game or 2 people keep saying. if he is better game coach than dino just the same level talent gets us to 8 9 win team

 

[syracuse95]

I don’t think that’s the case at all. Very different parallels there.

Chesney can out coach a lot of his peers. You are absolutely correct in hoping he can recruit (as I alluded to in the post).

But every realistic candidate would have questions attached to them.

Can Mullen actually outscheme opponents or can he just win with better talent? Because realistically that isn’t going to happen at Syracuse.

He did a great job at Miss St, but had the same amount of double digit win seasons as Dino did here.

I think people are overlooking the fact that Chesney has proven 2 things:

1) He has proven to be able to build a program. Not "rebuild"..."build". Assumption had 2 winning seasons in 20 years before he got there...he never had a losing season there as head coach. Holy Cross stunk before he got there. There was zero history of winning, at least not since the FCS split. They won their conference in year two under Chesney. And he kept them there, as they've won or tied for the league title every year since '19. They missed the playoffs this year, but they tied for the conference title and lost the playoff bid due to the tiebreaker.

2) He has proven an ability to play with and beat teams with better talent. He logged wins vs Buffalo and Uconn, and played BC and Army tight. All teams with superior rosters.

I get the concerns about the FCS to P4 jump, and I get the concerns about recruiting. I share both of them to some degree. But let's not pretend that guy hasn't done anything and is a glorified HS coach. He has an overall winning percentage over .700. He's taken his Patriot League team on the road, under the bright lights of a P5 opponent, and gone toe to toe more than once.

 

[Apdaly]

So I’m back on the Chesney express, did cuse nation scare him away with the Mullen craziness? Haha

 

[Whitey23]

I did hear last week that Chesney turned down UConn (pre-Mora and coming off Holy Cross' beating of Edsall) and Umass (pre-don brown). So, despite what we all think of these programs he has been picky/not desperate when thinking about his next job.

 

[baggerbob]

I did hear last week that Chesney turned down UConn (pre-Mora and coming off Holy Cross' beating of Edsall) and Umass (pre-don brown). So, despite what we all think of these programs he has been picky about his next job.

Wish him luck, and hope he does well, need to hold on to some players, and recruits. Also need to upgrade in the portal.

 

[P Vasiloff]

Raising ticket prices 300%, and hiring Chesney, a lot of season ticket holders will be gone.

How about if they hire the DB coach from Georgia? I’m SAS not shelling out $4400 for two tickets for a position coach to come here and lose. SMFH

 

[elimunelson]

I did hear last week that Chesney turned down UConn (pre-Mora and coming off Holy Cross' beating of Edsall) and Umass (pre-don brown). So, despite what we all think of these programs he has been picky/not desperate when thinking about his next job.

I mentioned this many threads ago but i sat with his former players from Salve at the BC/HC game this year. They happened to be in my section. They were very clear that Bob LOVES HC and the job has maximum security. He's not cut like other head coaches and has been in the business forever (his father was a coach).

I think the Syracuse job is very appealing for alot of reasons over Uconn and Umass (obviously). Those are stepping stones. Syracuse may be a destination to him specifically.

I think he's a guy who will wow an interviewer because of his energy and earnestness. This is a real deal guy.

 

[wfschrec]

I don’t think that’s the case at all. Very different parallels there.

Chesney can out coach a lot of his peers. You are absolutely correct in hoping he can recruit (as I alluded to in the post).

But every realistic candidate would have questions attached to them.

Can Mullen actually outscheme opponents or can he just win with better talent? Because realistically that isn’t going to happen at Syracuse.

He did a great job at Miss St, but had the same amount of double digit win seasons as Dino did here.

Double digit wins in the SEC is a whole lot different than double digit wins in the ACC or MAC. It’s not a valid comparison.

 

[Millhouse]

Double digit wins in the SEC is a whole lot different than double digit wins in the ACC or MAC. It’s not a valid comparison.

Mullen had one winning season in conference at Mississippi St
33-38 in conference there (one of the losses was after he left)
Dino's not the only guy who needs wins outside of conference
I'm fine with him as the coach but he's not as good as most of the thread thinks.

 

[McNabb2Brominski]

If it was Chesney I feel it would’ve happened already. His season is over. If you really want someone you don’t wait around and interview other candidates.

 

[TheHaze315]

If it was Chesney I feel it would’ve happened already. His season is over. If you really want someone you don’t wait around and interview other candidates.

This is also my feeling. I’m sure John is obviously dying his due diligence but it feels like if it were Chesney it would be over by now.

 

[SmilinBob]

Mullen had one winning season in conference at Mississippi St

And MSU always played 4 patsies OOC back then.

 

[VikesCuse84]

If it was Chesney I feel it would’ve happened already. His season is over. If you really want someone you don’t wait around and interview other candidates.

I don’t think anyone else is looking to hire Chesney though. So it makes sense to see what else is out there before making a decision especially since he has no D1 experience at all.

 

[wfschrec]

Mullen had one winning season in conference at Mississippi St

And went .500 in the SEC multiple times … how many .500 seasons did Dino have in the ACC or even in total? Stop it.

 

[elimunelson]

If it was Chesney I feel it would’ve happened already. His season is over. If you really want someone you don’t wait around and interview other candidates.

We fired Dino a week ago essentially and Thanksgiving was in the middle of things.

School is going to be very deliberate it seems with hiring the highest paid employee. Color me shocked.

 

[PhatOrange]

This is also my feeling. I’m sure John is obviously dying his due diligence but it feels like if it were Chesney it would be over by now.

you have to do your diligence. I don't think it's wise to make an offer to the first guy you interview unless he is 100% the guy you wanted before the process begins. Even then the interview might give you pause and reason to interview a few more.

 

[MikeSU02]

I’m a pretty big fan of Chesney. We could do a lot worse. I know he is t the biggest name on the board, but he checks a lot of boxes for Syracuse.

1. He can program build: Holy Cross was a Patriot League doormat before his arrival. They’ve won or tied for a share of the league title 4 out of his 5 years there.

2. NE ties: life long NE coach. We’d certainly have to provide him with some Florida / SE coaches. But let’s be real, we have to grab some decent talent out of the NE to have a chance.

3. Can you scheme a team to wins vs out talent teams: HC gave both BC and Army all they could handle this year. He beat Buffalo last year. He beat UCONN the year before.

Obviously there are questions surrounding his ability to recruit in the NIL / portal era. Can he recruit Florida or the Southeast?

I know that he isnt the household name of a Mullen per say, but he is definitely a very viable candidate.

Chesney was my preference before the Mullen stuff came out. I think with Chesney people would fall in love with him once they heard him on the mic and got excited.

I get why people woud take a wait and see with him, however.

 

[Millhouse]

And went .500 in the SEC multiple times … how many .500 seasons did Dino have in the ACC or even in total? Stop it.

yeah, at Florida, just like everyone else who ever coaches there
McElwain, Muschamp went 7-1 one year there, Zook twice

 

[swish7]

If it was Chesney I feel it would’ve happened already. His season is over. If you really want someone you don’t wait around and interview other candidates.

We went from a Chesney Oversell to Mullen Mania now to Mullen Manic Depression. Lets not return to any form of Chesney craziness.

Wildhack is making 'the' decision, but there are many parties influencing the decision, either through their $$$ or position on the search committee. I believe that some wanted Mullen and some didn't. If enough important people wanted Mullen, then you wait on Chesney and go through this process.

I'm still flabbergasted that Chesney is the boards only other option. This was my objection during the Chesney oversell era a scant 6 days ago.

Its a $4,000,000 per year gig. I hope there are a bunch of great options.

That said, I can get behind Chesney. However, I will be paying attention to everything he does, his hires, etc. If he just brings over whomever is in his NESN rolodex we're screwed. He'll need to attract people with P5 experience.