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Cusefan0307 said:
I think this is the year Gonzaga finally gets it done.
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Last year was their year, the divide is so much smaller this year between them and the other top 10 teams that I think they’ll need to play nearly flawless basketball just to make the final four.
 
Michigan making it is a joke IMO. You can't go 17-14 and make it in.

Iowa State come on. Can't go 7-11 in conference no matter how good your conference is. Really need a .500 conference rule to get a bid. TCU got in as well with 8-10 in conference.

This year is so biased to the non P5 schools.

WCC- gets 3 teams in. This year wasn't any different than other years for them and they usually have the 2nd team on the bubble. Why is San Fran in? They beat Davidson and? They were 0-5 vs the WCC's best 2 teams. They were 1-1 vs BYU. They lost to Loyola. You can't be 4th in the WCC with your best Ws as Davidson and BYU while also losing to Grand Canyon and Portland. Do they have the worst resume ever?

MWC- they aren't a good conference and usually struggle to get 2 teams in. How do they get 4 teams in? Wyoming making it is a joke. Their best W OOC was Washington. They also lost to Stanford. Sorry but the MWC isn't better than the ACC yet Wake get left out?

AAC- they have had a hard time getting teams in. Yet Memphis makes it as a 9 seed instead of an 11?

Big East- why is Marquette in? Sorry 11-8 in conference isn't good enough. Especially given 3 OOC losses (one to the Bonnies).
 
After watching the brackets come out, this has to be the weakest field ever. There’s a lot of mediocre teams in this field. Even the number one seeds are so so. Kansas and Butler are not great teams. Duke and Kentucky are weak #2 seeds. If Gonzaga has to play a big physical team they could be in trouble. Villanova is pretty good, but are they really a 2 seed? I remember looking at the top four seeds in each region and saw how good all of them were. I think Tennessee is better than some of the ones and alll of the two seeds. VT being a double digit seed is a crime.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
Michigan making it is a joke IMO. You can't go 17-14 and make it in.

Iowa State come on. Can't go 7-11 in conference no matter how good your conference is. Really need a .500 conference rule to get a bid. TCU got in as well with 8-10 in conference.

This year is so biased to the non P5 schools.

WCC- gets 3 teams in. This year wasn't any different than other years for them and they usually have the 2nd team on the bubble. Why is San Fran in? They beat Davidson and? They were 0-5 vs the WCC's best 2 teams. They were 1-1 vs BYU. They lost to Loyola. You can't be 4th in the WCC with your best Ws as Davidson and BYU while also losing to Grand Canyon and Portland. Do they have the worst resume ever?

MWC- they aren't a good conference and usually struggle to get 2 teams in. How do they get 4 teams in? Wyoming making it is a joke. Their best W OOC was Washington. They also lost to Stanford. Sorry but the MWC isn't better than the ACC yet Wake get left out?

AAC- they have had a hard time getting teams in. Yet Memphis makes it as a 9 seed instead of an 11?

Big East- why is Marquette in? Sorry 11-8 in conference isn't good enough. Especially given 3 OOC losses (one to the Bonnies).
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I agree with everything you said except the MWC. The four teams they got in are real good and I expect them to win some games. also I heard the Zags may be going into the MWC as their twelfth team, which would make it even stronger.
 
hoopsupstate said:
After watching the brackets come out, this has to be the weakest field ever. There’s a lot of mediocre teams in this field. Even the number one seeds are so so. Kansas and Butler are not great teams. Duke and Kentucky are weak #2 seeds. If Gonzaga has to play a big physical team they could be in trouble. Villanova is pretty good, but are they really a 2 seed? I remember looking at the top four seeds in each region and saw how good all of them were. I think Tennessee is better than some of the ones and alll of the two seeds. VT being a double digit seed is a crime.
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Yup. We all knew CBB was down. Just look at that one Saturday when the top six or seven all lost. The portal had to impact things. However, I think you are underestimating Kentucky. We know Calipari is a better recruiter then an in-game coach, but I expect them to make some waves. Not picking them as of yet but I expect good things from them.
 
Colgate is a 14 seed and has to play Wisky in Milwaukee. Hard to see them getting past B1G home cooking.
 
Jake said:
Va tech and ND were the last two teams in. Meaning one more upset combined with Duke beating Va Tech would have made the ACC a 3 bid league.
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va tech was only getting in as auto bid clearly. According to the seed list wyomng was the defacto last team in then rutgers then nd then indiana then michigan
 
Cuse181 said:
Last year was their year, the divide is so much smaller this year between them and the other top 10 teams that I think they’ll need to play nearly flawless basketball just to make the final four.
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They actually have that same 3-4 point gap between them and any other team on KP. (I.e. they would typically be favoured by 3-4 points over anybody).

Last year people reacted to that by thinking they were almost a 50/50 chance to win the tournament. And then we saw what Baylor did. I think people have realized they were over-valuing them last year. They are still the betting favourite at +350, but its nowhere close to last year even though they have similar power metrics.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
Michigan making it is a joke IMO. You can't go 17-14 and make it in.

Iowa State come on. Can't go 7-11 in conference no matter how good your conference is. Really need a .500 conference rule to get a bid. TCU got in as well with 8-10 in conference.

This year is so biased to the non P5 schools.

WCC- gets 3 teams in. This year wasn't any different than other years for them and they usually have the 2nd team on the bubble. Why is San Fran in? They beat Davidson and? They were 0-5 vs the WCC's best 2 teams. They were 1-1 vs BYU. They lost to Loyola. You can't be 4th in the WCC with your best Ws as Davidson and BYU while also losing to Grand Canyon and Portland. Do they have the worst resume ever?

MWC- they aren't a good conference and usually struggle to get 2 teams in. How do they get 4 teams in? Wyoming making it is a joke. Their best W OOC was Washington. They also lost to Stanford. Sorry but the MWC isn't better than the ACC yet Wake get left out?

AAC- they have had a hard time getting teams in. Yet Memphis makes it as a 9 seed instead of an 11?

Big East- why is Marquette in? Sorry 11-8 in conference isn't good enough. Especially given 3 OOC losses (one to the Bonnies).
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Swept Nova, beat Providence, Illinois, Seton Hall. 5 quad one wins, zero Q3/4 losses.
 
Michigan didn't suffer at all from the Howard ugliness. NCAA are rotten to the core.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
Michigan making it is a joke IMO. You can't go 17-14 and make it in.

Iowa State come on. Can't go 7-11 in conference no matter how good your conference is. Really need a .500 conference rule to get a bid. TCU got in as well with 8-10 in conference.

This year is so biased to the non P5 schools.

WCC- gets 3 teams in. This year wasn't any different than other years for them and they usually have the 2nd team on the bubble. Why is San Fran in? They beat Davidson and? They were 0-5 vs the WCC's best 2 teams. They were 1-1 vs BYU. They lost to Loyola. You can't be 4th in the WCC with your best Ws as Davidson and BYU while also losing to Grand Canyon and Portland. Do they have the worst resume ever?

MWC- they aren't a good conference and usually struggle to get 2 teams in. How do they get 4 teams in? Wyoming making it is a joke. Their best W OOC was Washington. They also lost to Stanford. Sorry but the MWC isn't better than the ACC yet Wake get left out?

AAC- they have had a hard time getting teams in. Yet Memphis makes it as a 9 seed instead of an 11?

Big East- why is Marquette in? Sorry 11-8 in conference isn't good enough. Especially given 3 OOC losses (one to the Bonnies).
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Nah. Some teams in big states will make it with 17-14. Like us, Michigan, Texas and Florida. Also Kansas, UNC, Duke and Kentucky. Not saying the last four need this favor because they can't sink that low with premium players they have.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
Michigan making it is a joke IMO. You can't go 17-14 and make it in.

Iowa State come on. Can't go 7-11 in conference no matter how good your conference is. Really need a .500 conference rule to get a bid. TCU got in as well with 8-10 in conference.

This year is so biased to the non P5 schools.

WCC- gets 3 teams in. This year wasn't any different than other years for them and they usually have the 2nd team on the bubble. Why is San Fran in? They beat Davidson and? They were 0-5 vs the WCC's best 2 teams. They were 1-1 vs BYU. They lost to Loyola. You can't be 4th in the WCC with your best Ws as Davidson and BYU while also losing to Grand Canyon and Portland. Do they have the worst resume ever?

MWC- they aren't a good conference and usually struggle to get 2 teams in. How do they get 4 teams in? Wyoming making it is a joke. Their best W OOC was Washington. They also lost to Stanford. Sorry but the MWC isn't better than the ACC yet Wake get left out?

AAC- they have had a hard time getting teams in. Yet Memphis makes it as a 9 seed instead of an 11?

Big East- why is Marquette in? Sorry 11-8 in conference isn't good enough. Especially given 3 OOC losses (one to the Bonnies).
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I think you want a 64 team field not a 68 team field especially since you don't like mid majors either. But at the end of the day 68 teams have to get picked,

Iowa St
Michigan
San Francisco
Wyoming
Marquette
Memphis

Who are you going to put in to replace all those teams. If its ACC teams, then its time for the ACC to up its game.

With respect to the MWC and the WCC they actually played much better than they normally do out of conference. MWC may have had a bit stronger out of conference metrics as a conference compared to the ACC. Fact is The MWC, WCC, and ACC all played at about the same level before January. I was tracking it in December and saying at the time the MWC and WCC were going to get more seeds than normal. They clearly did play better.

WCC is higher because you now have 5 out of 10 teams performing well, rather than just the traditional 3. That helps everybody in the conference.

Records in all of those conferences have about the same relevance. You can't just let teams in with good records from the ACC because they are the ACC and they were good in the past.

The tournament is heavily shaped by how conferences perform, as a group before January 1.
 
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jncuse said:
I think your problem is you want a 64 team field not a 68 team field.

Iowa St
Michigan
San Francisco
Wyoming
Marquette
Memphis

Who are you going to put in to replace all those teams. If its ACC teams, then its time for the ACC to up its game.

With respect to the MWC and the WCC they actually played much better than they normally do out of conference. In fact the MWC probably had stronger out of conference metrics as a conference compared to the ACC. The MWC, WCC, and ACC all played at about the same level before January. I was tracking it in December and saying at the time the MWC and WCC were going to get more seeds than normal. They clearly did play better.

Therefore records in all of those conferences have about the same relevance. You can't just let teams in with good records from the ACC because they are the ACC.
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The WCC? I'm a college sports fanatic and I can't even name the teams in that conference off the top of my head. I got Zags, BYU, San Fran, St Mary's, then I think SanDiego and maybe Portland St. That's all I got.
 
Michigan -2 against Colorado State.
Providence is -1.5 against South Dakota State.
L-O-L.
 
Texas -1 against Virginia Tech
North Carolina -4 against Marquette.

Give me the underdogs in both games.
 
hoopsupstate said:
After watching the brackets come out, this has to be the weakest field ever. There’s a lot of mediocre teams in this field. Even the number one seeds are so so. Kansas and Butler are not great teams.
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Butler sucks so bad they didn't even make the field
 
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