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Brian Kelly to LSU

Wonder if it will finally dawn on ND that not being in a P5 conference hurts them? Or was this just straight up about money? Also I don’t feel sorry one bit for ND fans. Now that’s a team I love to hate.
Notre Dame is not joining a conference unless the CFP requires conference affiliation, which it does not nor will it. If anything, the CFP will expand which will make it easier for ND to make the playoffs (even if it is not allowed a first round bye). ND would make more money if it were in a conference so remaining independent is not a money thing.
 
Ehhhh not so much.

ND is VERY loyal to those that help them….the ACC threw them a bone by allowing them to play in the ACC for football last season. They also threw them a bone by allowing all their other sports to play in the ACC but allow them to keep independent for football.

If their football ever joins a conference I would assume that it would be the ACC
Contractually if they were to join a conference in football it has to be the ACC until like 2035 or something.
 
Notre Dame is not joining a conference unless the CFP requires conference affiliation, which it does not nor will it. If anything, the CFP will expand which will make it easier for ND to make the playoffs (even if it is not allowed a first round bye). ND would make more money if it were in a conference so remaining independent is not a money thing.
Or if the powers that be get tired of their poop and freeze them out.
 
Notre Dame is not joining a conference unless the CFP requires conference affiliation, which it does not nor will it. If anything, the CFP will expand which will make it easier for ND to make the playoffs (even if it is not allowed a first round bye). ND would make more money if it were in a conference so remaining independent is not a money thing.
I meant was Kelly leaving because he felt like he can’t win a NC there cause the road is harder, or did he leave for the money.
 
ND would be in the playoffs if they were in the ACC. They should really consider joining the ACC. They would only have to beat Clemson to make it. This was a freak year for Clemson. They will be back on top next year.
Nd played one ranked team all year and lost to them at home. They don't belong near the playoffs.
 
I meant was Kelly leaving because he felt like he can’t win a NC there cause the road is harder, or did he leave for the money.
It has to be the money. Even last week he said he would only leave ND if the money made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
 
Notre Dame is going to take a major hit losing Kelly unless they get an elite replacement.
Freeman is a good DC but please ND give him the job and let him learn on job training as a HC.
8-4/9-3 here they go.

Thank you Kelly.
 
Nd played one ranked team all year and lost to them at home. They don't belong near the playoffs.
Clemson lost to Pitt one year and Syracuse another year and made the playoffs. Kelly is leaving ND because their independence costs him chances to get in the playoffs and win titles. And, any other coach who would be at that level will feel the same way. The hubris has put them in a box.
 
Also not having a conference title game this week will hurt ND.
ND only gets in the CFB if Oklahoma State loses or Michigan loses.
A 12- 1 Cincinnati > 11-1 Notre Dame.
If 11-1 Nd is ahead of 12-1 Cincinnati the regular season doesn’t matter.

If Michigan and Oklahoma State win ND is out.
If ND played a Pitt or Wake that would likely allow them to hold off Oklahoma State.

While Pitt/Wake aren’t elite they are good wins. Honestly little difference between those two and Baylor.
I would favor Pitt over Baylor not wake though.
 
Also not having a conference title game this week will hurt ND.
ND only gets in the CFB if Oklahoma State loses or Michigan loses.
A 12- 1 Cincinnati > 11-1 Notre Dame.
If 11-1 Nd is ahead of 12-1 Cincinnati the regular season doesn’t matter.

If Michigan and Oklahoma State win ND is out.
If ND played a Pitt or Wake that would likely allow them to hold off Oklahoma State.

While Pitt/Wake aren’t elite they are good wins. Honestly little difference between those two and Baylor.
I would favor Pitt over Baylor not wake though.
I think ND knows that not being in a conference will hurt their chances of making the playoffs in years that ND does not go undefeated. It is when ND is kept out of the playoffs in years where it does go undefeated that will cause ND to question it's independence. To date, an undefeated ND team has always made the playoffs, even with only 4 teams.
 
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1) It’s *always* about the money. Always.

2) Another thread of “I hate ND so much… please join our conference ND!”
Honestly I think it’s actually consistent for someone to both hate ND and want them to join our conference; our fanbase is in desperate need of a legit rivalry.
 
Only maybe from the scheduling that would probably not have included the ND/Cincy game, without which Cincy isn't in CFP contention and an undefeated ND might be
Part of the reason for why ND's schedule is viewed as being weak is the five games they played against ACC competition this season. But yeah an undefeated ND this year coming out of the ACC that would work. I have been responding to the notion a one loss ND would get in out of the ACC.
 
Wonder if Kelly approached ND with the offer sheet and gave them the opportunity to match it?
 
Wonder if it will finally dawn on ND that not being in a P5 conference hurts them? Or was this just straight up about money? Also I don’t feel sorry one bit for ND fans. Now that’s a team I love to hate.
Didn't seem to protect OU from getting poached.
 
Notre Dame’s alltime winningiest Coach is leaving for another college job.

What a sick sport.
I know you’re down on Dino still being around. And what I am about to say is NOT apples to apples, but much of what you’re saying about SU/Wildhack is what was said last year at USC. Keeping Helton would stunt their legendary program. A year later, that is definitively not the case. I don’t think this is a good year for someone like Wildhack to be trying to fill a HC gig at SU.
 
Part of the reason for why ND's schedule is viewed as being weak is the five games they played against ACC competition this season. But yeah an undefeated ND this year coming out of the ACC that would work. I have been responding to the notion a one loss ND would get in out of the ACC.
Clemson got to the playoffs with 1 loss twice, and the conference wasn't any stronger in those years.
 
If PITT or Wake had gone undefeated, they would have been in. ND gets a “we’re ND bounce”
If Ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas. Let's face it fellas the ACC sucked this year. A one loss Oklahoma State would have a far more impressive resume than either of those two teams even if undefeated.
 
Didn't seem to protect OU from getting poached.
Meh, not really a fair comparison. OU, though a great program, is regressing and just lost in Bedlam. ND is rising.
 
If Pitt beat WMU and only lost to Miami they would be a CFB contender this week.
Their metrics are good.

The loss to Western Michigan killed them.

Pitt is actually a good team. They just choked against Western.
 
Didn't seem to protect OU from getting poached.
OU is going to the SEC. USC can easily rise to the top of the PAC and win titles. He's not stupid.
 

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