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Bubble Watch - Monday to Wednesday Tourney Week

jdubs30 said:
Last 4 Out:

URI
Kansas State
Iowa
Illinois

We went over this earlier in this thread. But Iowa has a tough opener vs. Indiana. Illinois even tougher with Michigan. KState also starts with Baylor. There is a chance that those teams go 0-3 and we won't have to worry about them. However, KState moves into the field IMO with a win vs. Baylor. Illinois is right there with a Michigan win. I don't think beating IU does that much for Iowa - but then they'd get Wisconson who's struggling.

Assuming URi takes care of business against St. Bonaventure - they'd get Dayton. URI will have to win both.
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yeah I think you've identified the biggest threats to SU.

Also need MTSU to do as a solid for the second year in a row, this time by winning their conference tournament. And avoid bid stealers in the A10 and AAC.
 
Seriously, though - make a case for Virginia Tech over Wake Forest.

Sagarin

Wake Forest: #33
Virginia Tech: #46

KenPom

Wake Forest: #30
Virginia Tech: #48

BPI

Wake Forest: #30
Virginia Tech: #49

RPI

Wake Forest: #30
Virginia Tech: #46

Record vs. RPI Top 50

Virginia Tech: 4-7
Wake Forest: 3-8

Record vs. RPI Top 25

Virginia Tech: 2-5
Wake Forest: 1-7

Does the difference of one more good win outweigh significantly better computer rankings?
 
orangenirvana said:
Seriously, though - make a case for Virginia Tech over Wake Forest.

Sagarin

Wake Forest: #33
Virginia Tech: #46

KenPom

Wake Forest: #30
Virginia Tech: #48

BPI

Wake Forest: #30
Virginia Tech: #49

RPI

Wake Forest: #30
Virginia Tech: #46

Record vs. RPI Top 50

Virginia Tech: 4-7
Wake Forest: 3-8

Record vs. RPI Top 25

Virginia Tech: 2-5
Wake Forest: 1-7

Does the difference of one more good win outweigh significantly better computer rankings?
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VaTech has 2 top 20 wins. Wake has 1.

Both teams beat Miami at home.

VaTech has an OOC win on the road against Michigan.

VaTech has a pretty amazing 8-1 record vs. 51-100 while Wake is 6-4.

Of those 8 wins for Tech - 2 are on the road and 2 are on neutral floors. Not only that, 3 of those wins were OOC. Wake is similar, 4 of their 6 are OOC, 3 being away from.

VaTech has a loss @ #124 NC State. Wake's worst loss is @ #80 Syracuse. However, 7 of Tech's 9 losses are against top 41 teams. Other than that - they lost @NC State and to Texas A&M on a neutral floor before Thanksigving.

I think Tech is stronger all around.

BTW - PTI said we're still in somehow
 
jdubs30 said:
VaTech has 2 top 20 wins. Wake has 1.

Both teams beat Miami at home.

VaTech has an OOC win on the road against Michigan.

VaTech has a pretty amazing 8-1 record vs. 51-100 while Wake is 6-4.

Of those 8 wins for Tech - 2 are on the road and 2 are on neutral floors. Not only that, 3 of those wins were OOC. Wake is similar, 4 of their 6 are OOC, 3 being away from.

VaTech has a loss @ #124 NC State. Wake's worst loss is @ #80 Syracuse. However, 7 of Tech's 9 losses are against top 41 teams. Other than that - they lost @NC State and to Texas A&M on a neutral floor before Thanksigving.

I think Tech is stronger all around.

BTW - PTI said we're still in somehow
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Wake has the better win against #3 Louisville.

You make a good case for Virginia Tech but it is still extremely slight between the two teams. Imo if the Tourney starts today they're both 10 seeds.
 
Chris02M said:
Top 50 wins
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One more top 50 win is the difference between a 9 seed and a play-in game appearance? Even if Top 50 wins is all the committee looks at (it's not), that would be far-fetched.
 
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If Cal loses to a 5-26 team will Palm remove them from the tourney?
 
Wow, what a buzzer beater by Wake at the half - up 7. I had them above us, but I am not sure everyone did, so a loss would be nice.
 
jncuse said:
Wow, what a buzzer beater by Wake at the half. I had them above us, but I am not sure everyone did, so a loss would be nice.

But they are up 7. With their last 4 games they are earning their spot.
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Yeah I think the ACC is pretty much set with bids - the only question mark is us (or if Pitt wins out).

On a side note - that dude on the ESPN halftime show said he thinks Wake is 100% in because theyre 3-8 vs. the top 50; but before this game tipped he said we're out. Huh?
 
jncuse said:
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A game that only mattered if they loss.

I think they still need to beat Utah and Oregon.
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I agree. But I wasn't a big fan of Oregon State last year and they got a 7 seed. Granted - we also got in, so it was OK. But if Cal loses tomorrow and gets in over us, I'll be pretty upset
 
jdubs30 said:
Yeah I think the ACC is pretty much set with bids - the only question mark is us (or if Pitt wins out).

On a side note - that dude on the ESPN halftime show said he thinks Wake is 100% in because theyre 3-8 vs. the top 50; but before this game tipped he said we're out. Huh?
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It can be pretty amusing at this time of year is when media guys / analysts start playing pretend bracketologist.,
 
jdubs30 said:
I agree. But I wasn't a big fan of Oregon State last year and they got a 7 seed. Granted - we also got in, so it was OK. But if Cal loses tomorrow and gets in over us, I'll be pretty upset
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Two different conferences ... they were deep last year. Just can't see it for Cal.
 
St. John's up 8 vs. GTown with 14min left.

Slight significance with this one - GTown will most likely drop to a sub 100 RPI with a loss. Giving us a 4th one of those now.
 
:bat:
Rutgers B10 Tourney Wins - 1
Syracuse ACC tourney Wins - 0

But it's nice to see them take down Ohio St... Ohio St probably needed to win 4 games but nice to see they are out
 
jncuse said:
:bat:
Rutgers B10 Tourney Wins - 1
Syracuse ACC tourney Wins - 0

But it's nice to see them take down Ohio St... Ohio St probably needed to win 4 games but nice to see they are out
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Every little bit helps, one less team to worry about.
 
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