Buddy Boeheim ranks among ESPN’s top 2022 NBA Draft prospects

[Alsacs]

I'll call it now, Buddy will be drafted between 24 and 30.

I hope you are right. If he is a first round pick it would have mean he put up good numbers.

 

[Orangezoo]

He’s not even close to a NBA player.

Well he is also still in college so. Yeah he can't really do that right now.

 

[OrangeDW]

I'll call it now, Buddy will be drafted between 24 and 30.

Interesting way of predicting that the Jazz will have a really good record.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Andrew White shot the ball better percentage wise than Buddy Boeheim. Buddy takes a lot of bad shots and doesn’t make them.
Andrew White took a lot of bad shots but. He made a lot of them. I would like to see Buddy actually shoot 40% from three and stop taking a lot of shots that aren’t good. He gets to take a lot of shots because we don’t give any offense to the bigs so the shots got to be taken by the guards and forwards.

I don’t see Duncan Robinson, Kyle Korver Steve Novak when I watch Buddy. Doug McDermott dominated in college his senior year That is what I want to see from Buddy.

Which bigs would you want shooting in the post instead of Buddy? I mean SU bigs.

 

[Alsacs]

Which bigs would you want shooting in the post instead of Buddy? I mean SU bigs.

Jesse. Showed some promise.
He didn’t get a chance last year.
If we are going to actually develop players they need to play.
We play marathon men so we don’t. bottom out. I get it.
If our bigs can’t play by year 2 then stop recruiting projects.

Jesse showed in the Miami game last year he deserved minutes.
He didn’t get them till foul trouble in Georgia Tech. JB didn’t want to give him minutes.

 

[Alsacs]

Which bigs would you want shooting in the post instead of Buddy? I mean SU bigs.

Watch the best teams in college hoops they don’t play offense like we do.
They are complete.
Our offense forces our best players to take a lot of bad shots.
That is why Andrew White’s shooting percentages his year here were insane.
He took and made a lot of tough shots.

White shot over 55% from 2 and 40% from 3.

Let’s see buddy do that.

 

[sutomcat]

What did Buddy shoot as a % after his bout with Covid? Andrew White also played as a 5th year guy at Syracuse. Let's see what Buddy can does as a 4th year guy. I think he is going to be really good this year. the 2 guard at Syracuse is set up to take a lot of shots and sometimes not very good ones. They get the ball at the end of a shot clock. We have had some really good 2's that would have had a higher % had they gone somewhere else.

I did it in my head and might have made a mistake, but I believe he shot 45.45% from the 3 point circle the last 14 games of the season.

His shooting percentage from the arc changed significantly from the early part of the season, much of what was played against lower quality defenses.

It will be interesting to see how he shoots this season. I think by the last 10 games of last season, he was consistently getting the best defender and was doubled teamed pretty often. That will be the case all next season. I think there is reason to think he is going to play at a similar level next year.

The big concern is that the other players on offense just stand in place and pass it around the perimeter each possession. SU needs to get some baskets in transition and someone besides Buddy needs to penetrate and dish. If JGIII, Jimmy, Cole, Symir and Benny can all help initiate some offense, this team can score a lot of points. Could be a fun offense to watch.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Interesting way of predicting that the Jazz will have a really good record.

I'm assuming OKC grabs him with one of their 9 1st rounders in the next draft.

 

[dasher]

I will take White and have the better player.

Buddy is good player but White shot the ball better.

I am not sold on Buddy as an NBA player.
When he was defended by Grimes he got locked down.
Grimes types are the rule in the pro basketball.

Andrew White got a cup of coffee in the league.

I will be surprised if Buddy gets that.

He wasn't just defended by Grimes. They doubled him on every screen and left Q or Marek or anyone else all alone. They won't be able to do that with Cole setting picks. No team set their defense for White. Great shooter. But they didn't set their defense to stop White like they do with Buddy. Is Cole a better shooter than Buddy? He shot a higher % as well. It isn't the whole story.

 

[dasher]

I did it in my head and might have made a mistake, but I believe he shot 45.45% from the 3 point circle the last 14 games of the season.

His shooting percentage from the arc changed significantly from the early part of the season, much of what was played against lower quality defenses.

It will be interesting to see how he shoots this season. I think by the last 10 games of last season, he was consistently getting the best defender and was doubled teamed pretty often. That will be the case all next season. I think there is reason to think he is going to play at a similar level next year.

The big concern is that the other players on offense just stand in place and pass it around the perimeter each possession. SU needs to get some baskets in transition and someone besides Buddy needs to penetrate and dish. If JGIII, Jimmy, Cole, Symir and Benny can all help initiate some offense, this team can score a lot of points. Could be a fun offense to watch.

Exactly.

 

[Scotch]

He’s not even close to a NBA

Well he is also still in college so. Yeah he can't really do that right now.

Great point. You know what I mean. If he’s the best player on your college team, you don’t have a good college team.

 

[Niastri]

This is no compliment but I don't think Buddy is a step down from White on defense.

If you are talking physical talent, White might be better... If you are talking about actually playing the zone as intended, Buddy at least knows where he is supposed to be on defense.

 

[Niastri]

I'll call it now, Buddy will be drafted between 24 and 30.

Danny Ainge isn't running the Celtics anymore.

 

[Niastri]

He wasn't just defended by Grimes. They doubled him on every screen and left Q or Marek or anyone else all alone. They won't be able to do that with Cole setting picks. No team set their defense for white. Great shooter. But they didn't set their defense to stop white like they do with Buddy. Is Cole a better shooter than Buddy? He shot a higher % as well. It isn't the whole story.

I predict we'll see a lot of double high screens with Swider and Williams screening for Buddy. It will be a serious case of having to pick your poison trying to guard us. Buddy will have a lot of options if he's doubled.

Four guys who can hit a three and Edwards could be a very good offensive team.

 

[kcsu]

I hope Buddy makes the NBA. He is such a hard worker.

 

[Orangezoo]

He’s not even close to a NBA


Great point. You know what I mean. If he’s the best player on your college team, you don’t have a good college team.

All you are doing it appears is just trashing the team and it's a lazy take. When he was clearly the best player as he emerged to be down the stretch he led the way to getting into the tournament and beating two top 25, higher seed teams. If he puts in a whole season at that level now that Covid is past him you think we are still a bad team? Curious how that works exactly other than just sticking to a tired narrative. Mind you bad to me is a team that doesn't make the tourney. Maybe bad to you is a bubble team.

 

[jdubs30]

I predict we'll see a lot of double high screens with Swider and Williams screening for Buddy. It will be a serious case of having to pick your poison trying to guard us. Buddy will have a lot of options if he's doubled.

Four guys who can hit a three and Edwards could be a very good offensive team.

If Buddy takes the next step in his ability to make the right pass quickly and see the floor better - his stock will sky rocket. I may almost argue that’s more important to his game than improving his handle

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I did it in my head and might have made a mistake, but I believe he shot 45.45% from the 3 point circle the last 14 games of the season.

His shooting percentage from the arc changed significantly from the early part of the season, much of what was played against lower quality defenses.

It will be interesting to see how he shoots this season. I think by the last 10 games of last season, he was consistently getting the best defender and was doubled teamed pretty often. That will be the case all next season. I think there is reason to think he is going to play at a similar level next year.

The big concern is that the other players on offense just stand in place and pass it around the perimeter each possession. SU needs to get some baskets in transition and someone besides Buddy needs to penetrate and dish. If JGIII, Jimmy, Cole, Symir and Benny can all help initiate some offense, this team can score a lot of points. Could be a fun offense to watch.

People tend to forget (at least) Buddy and Joe had Covid. I think their late season improvements in shooting can be directly attributed to their recovery from the effects of their illness. Legs are so important to jump shooters.

 

[AZOrange]

Buddy will get a look on shooting alone. His footspeed is terrible but the NBA gave up on defense 8 years ago

 

[two3zone]

I will take White and have the better player.

Buddy is good player but White shot the ball better.

I am not sold on Buddy as an NBA player.
When he was defended by Grimes he got locked down.
Grimes types are the rule in the pro basketball.

Andrew White got a cup of coffee in the league.

I will be surprised if Buddy gets that.

bUt tHeY dOnT pLaY dEfEnSe iN tHe NBA.

 

[Scotch]

All you are doing it appears is just trashing the team and it's a lazy take. When he was clearly the best player as he emerged to be down the stretch he led the way to getting into the tournament and beating two top 25, higher seed teams. If he puts in a whole season at that level now that Covid is past him you think we are still a bad team? Curious how that works exactly other than just sticking to a tired narrative. Mind you bad to me is a team that doesn't make the tourney. Maybe bad to you is a bubble team.

Yes, an 11 seed is bad. Play-in game is bad. We are Syracuse. Top 25 and top 4 n the conference needs to be the standard. You don’t get there with Buddy as your alpha. The only thing more tired than the narrative is our consistent mediocrity and it’s acceptance and excuses by the fan base.

 

[Orangezoo]

Athlon Sports' 2021-22 College Basketball Preseason All-America Team | AthlonSports.com | Expert Predictions, Picks, and Previews

Pre season projections... And it's athlon but they have Buddy as 2nd team AA here.

 

[Orangezoo]

Yes, an 11 seed is bad. Play-in game is bad. We are Syracuse. Top 25 and top 4 n the conference needs to be the standard. You don’t get there with Buddy as your alpha. The only thing more tired than the narrative is our consistent mediocrity and it’s acceptance and excuses by the fan base.

So if Buddy ends up an All American it's still not good enough? This isn't the Big East anymore. I think we all need to stop living in the past. Expectations need to be measured. Yes we are Syracuse. We also had plenty of non top 4 finishes in the BE. Because of the 80s and early 90s, 2003-2005 and 09-14 the fan expectation levels have also been inflated as well.

From 1980/81 until the end of the BE we finished top 4 21 out of 33 times. Definitely a good run. Since then we have 1 top 4 finish in the ACC - not so good but 3 top 6 with the real problems being the non conference. That coincided with Hop leaving, recruiting penalties and recruiting failures. The move from the BE has been good financially but not so in terms of success for us. This team has to prove it deserves those expectations again. Right now I think they don't.

 

[Scotch]

So if Buddy ends up an All American it's still not good enough? This isn't the Big East anymore. I think we all need to stop living in the past. Expectations need to be measured. Yes we are Syracuse. We also had plenty of non top 4 finishes in the BE. Because of the 80s and early 90s, 2003-2005 and 09-14 the fan expectation levels have also been inflated as well.

From 1980/81 until the end of the BE we finished top 4 21 out of 33 times. Definitely a good run. Since then we have 1 top 4 finish in the ACC - not so good but 3 top 6 with the real problems being the non conference. That coincided with Hop leaving, recruiting penalties and recruiting failures. The move from the BE has been good financially but not so in terms of success for us. This team has to prove it deserves those expectations again. Right now I think they don't.

Agreed that they don’t deserve it, because our overall talent level and recruiting has become a disaster over the past ten years. That results in Buddy being your best player. I don’t dislike Buddy. He would be a great 3rd option but is miscast as a go to guy on an ACC team.

 

[Alsacs]

So if Buddy ends up an All American it's still not good enough? This isn't the Big East anymore. I think we all need to stop living in the past. Expectations need to be measured. Yes we are Syracuse. We also had plenty of non top 4 finishes in the BE. Because of the 80s and early 90s, 2003-2005 and 09-14 the fan expectation levels have also been inflated as well.

What should the expectations be?
I would love to hear what you think.
I have said if the fanbase shouldn’t expect us to be Syracuse anymore then the frustration should go away.
We pretend we are still elite.
If we aren’t elite anymore and then the frustration should be less.

We have been a plucky team that can overachieve in March since 2015.
That isn’t one or two years it’s going on 7.

I watch Buddy Boeheim and I watch the NBA. The kid can shoot but I don’t see an elite shooter.
He misses way too many shots to be an elite shooter. Somehow our fanbase thinks he is an elite shooter.
I don’t see an elite shooter.
I see a good shooter but not elite.
50/40/90 are elite shooters.
50% overall of all your shots.
40% from 3 point range.
90% from the FT line.

People want to go into knots and make excuses. Covid.
Okay if the kid was affected by Covid his coach shouldn’t have played him as much as he did.

The HC won’t sit him when he struggles. If the coach won’t sit him then the Covid excuses isn’t legit.
If the player isn’t 100% don’t play him as 37+ MPG. We had options last year.

Buddy is a good player. I don’t see an NBA player yet. Everything Scotch has said is how I feel.

Buddy was Elite the last 3 weeks of the season. The last week of the regular season, ACCT and NCAAT.

If he is like that the whole season he will be great but I still don’t see an NBA player.