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Think the data also showed he was the worst QB in the league when defenses bluff the blitz and drop into zone, which is precisely what we did on that conversion. Probably would have worked too if the one DB didn't randomly vacate his space to chase the guy in the flat that was already covered/you wanted them to throw it to the flat anyways. Just a blown coverage at a crucial time.
That’s why you blitz there . Because they blow coverages regularly on 3rd and long where there is more time for coverage errors to be taken advantage of .
 
I think we all became spoiled and stupid. Our roster has 1 real hole(WR) and we think the GM stinks because we don't just have every position loaded up. Been fighting with friends about this. We are so hyper focused on one team that we don't realize that's how it goes for everyone. No team is without holes and every GM blows premium picks and FA signings.

Roseman is considered the gold standard and the deal he gave to Bryce Huff a year ago was all-time bad. In the last 6 years to try and fix their WR problem, he took JJ Arcega Whiteside in rd 2 which was awful, a year later he then takes Jalen Raegor in Rd 1 which is catastrophically bad considering who went with the following pick. Those moves go so bad that he then has to use a 3rd to trade up the next year to get Devonta Smith at 10 and the only reason that was possible is because they were garbage in 2020 and went 4-11-1 so he was starting out at pick 12. Another year later another 1st and 3rd spent for AJ Brown. So the guy who is considered the best GM in football blew through 3 1sts, a 2nd and 2 3rds to try and fix that hole plus hand out giant extensions. I don't think any of us would sign up for that set of circumstances though we would for the end result last year.

So far Beane did a great job brining in Beasley and then Diggs and got rid of them at what appears to have been the right time. Just hasn't been able to backfill. Shakir is an absolute gem in the 5th. Kincaid is a potential difference maker if he could ever play for 2 months straight. Keon appears to be a turd and so are Worthy, Mitchell and Polk who were 3 guys in that range that everyone wanted one of. I don't recall a lot of love for Pearsall or Ladd who are the only 2 that have had much success from that 2024 20th-40th draft crop of WRs.

FA wise it's mostly been strike outs of late. Samuel went from being a pretty solid gadget guy in Carolina and Washington to essentially worthless for us. Palmer seemed like the highest ceiling guy of the mid-tier FA WRs this past summer and he ended up worthless. The cheap attempts on reclimation projects of other teams garbage hasn't worked out with guys like Moore. No one seems to remember that there was no one available that was anywhere remotely close to being a difference maker in the WR group. The top was Godwin, Adams, Cooper and Diggs. 0 of those guys made any kind of sense besides maybe Adams but a 32 year old at $20+ mill a year is a little nuts for my liking but he sure would have been nice to have on Saturday. That being the top group is gross and the next tier is even worse. 5 through 10 in the NFL.com WR FA rankings were Hollywood Brown, Slayton, Mike Williams, Elijah Moore and Keenan Allen.

So given that, how in the world was the WR spot supposed to be adequately filled? We had pick 30. The only guy that went in the 20s was Matthew Golden who did nothing. The rd 2 guys were Jayden Higgins at 34, Luther Burden at 39, Tre Harris at 55 and Jack Bech at 58. Would any of us trade Hairston for Higgins? I might but then we have a horrific need at CB again. None of the others in that range would have made a difference this year or likely in the future unless Burden matures and becomes something but he was a WR4 this year.

Given those were the FA and Draft options for the 2025 offseason, I just don't really see what the bright blinking option was to fix WR last offseason. I thought it was a borderline miracle what he actually made happen with getting all the young guys in on defense which looks like it could be a jackpot outside of Landon Jackson.

so you are making an argument against a point nobody is making. Nobody is claiming Beane is a failure because the WR corp isn’t great.. it’s because he’s failed miserably at even making it decent. Look what Jacoby Myers did when he got to Jacksonville.. didn’t cost much at all. He also lost a serviceable backup db claiming a guy who had no intention of coming here . The cap is in a shambles. It’s going to be in shambles for the foreseeable future. And he gets promoted . Complete joke. They should both be gone.

In summary

effffff back stabbing bich azz Beane. This is a clear case of one guy throwing HIS GUY into shark infested waters to save his own azz . I don’t want that type of person running the team
 
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It doesn’t matter how many games you win. You could go 17-1 and if you don’t win it all… fail .
That's moronic Twitter hyperbole that I avoid like the plague. If the Bills go 17-1 and lose in the Super Bowl there will be 100,000 idiots waiting at the airport in 5 degrees to celebrate their return.
 
Daboll getting one of the first interviews...
With 0 perfect candidates it certainly makes sense to me that he'd be near the top of likely outcomes. Maybe the most important guy in helping turn Josh into what he is and while McD made himself loved by the community, Daboll is a part of the community. Offense would remain at an elite level but have no clue who he'd bring with him on the other side of the ball.
 
That's moronic Twitter hyperbole that I avoid like the plague. If the Bills go 17-1 and lose in the Super Bowl there will be 100,000 idiots waiting at the airport in 5 degrees to celebrate their return.
How is it hyperbole? Go take a pole of bills fans and see what they would consider success? It’s got nothing to do with twitter. We’ve done 4 superbowls and lost them all. Getting to and losing a 5th won’t be looked at as success.

And with the current “modern” team, 8 years of playoffs. We’ve done all this over and over.

You might feel differently. You’d also be in the minority
 
With 0 perfect candidates it certainly makes sense to me that he'd be near the top of likely outcomes. Maybe the most important guy in helping turn Josh into what he is and while McD made himself loved by the community, Daboll is a part of the community. Offense would remain at an elite level but have no clue who he'd bring with him on the other side of the ball.
You’re forgetting the most important part .. a nice subordinate that won’t challenge your boy
 
With 0 perfect candidates it certainly makes sense to me that he'd be near the top of likely outcomes. Maybe the most important guy in helping turn Josh into what he is and while McD made himself loved by the community, Daboll is a part of the community. Offense would remain at an elite level but have no clue who he'd bring with him on the other side of the ball.
Sounds like Brady vs Daboll. It really comes down to who they would get as DC, but I can't stress enough how bad Daboll was in NY. Every word coming out of there was the operation he ran was a joke.
 
How is it hyperbole? Go take a pole of bills fans and see what they would consider success? It’s got nothing to do with twitter. We’ve done 4 superbowls and lost them all. Getting to and losing a 5th won’t be looked at as success.

And with the current “modern” team, 8 years of playoffs. We’ve done all this over and over.

You might feel differently. You’d also be in the minority
I wouldn't be. Actual people from and in Buffalo would lose their mind with happiness to get back to the Super Bowl regardless of the outcome. Sure there would be disappointment if it ended up in a loss but getting over that hump would likely be plenty to let the steam out of the pressure cooker.

The vocal minority of Twitter losers won't ever be happy with anything because they have to fire off H0T Takes into the void to try and one up each other and collect likes and retweets. They are the same exact people that were blowing up the Whiner Line on my commute every afternoon 15 years ago.

I also don't have a boy. I don't really care in any way if Beane were to get shot into space this afternoon to never return. Just find it odd and ridiculous that there's been some kind of odd outpouring of love for McDermott post firing that has to correlate with taking the other guy involved down. 2 weeks ago there seemed to have been a consensus formed that if they were to lose to the Jags that McDermott had to go. They barely survived and that somehow transformed things to where people are all butthurt that he actually got fired. I think it's likely because he was a great guy, great in the community and a great leader of men, all of which I fully agree with and appreciate. I just don't think I can recall that any team has ever blown up the coaching and front office after sustained success and if one is going to be the one to go then I agree with Terry that it should be the one down on the field that goes first.
 
I’d guess linebackers.
That was a long time one for me and then in the last decade it fell apart. Think Aaron Curry going 4th overall and being an immediate bum started it like 15 years ago. Before that an off ball LB going in the top half of the 1st round was a damn near sure thing. Now you end up with these hybrid guys like Curry and what Isiah Simmons was and it's just as much a coin flip as anywhere else. Looking at other spots it seems that maybe elite corners going in the top 10 might be the safest as most recent ones are all hits but Jeff Okudah going 3rd overall wasn't too far back.
 
Sounds like Brady vs Daboll. It really comes down to who they would get as DC, but I can't stress enough how bad Daboll was in NY. Every word coming out of there was the operation he ran was a joke.
I'd be really fearful of Brady making that jump from QB coach to HC in like 2.5 years. The hit rate on these guys is not high outside of the once in a decade guys like McVay. Tough to be in your early 30s and be able to put together a great staff of guys who have done it. Have the same fear with Kubiak as a candidate but I think his dad and his background would at least provide a major leg up on anyone else of his age and experience.
 
I'd be really fearful of Brady making that jump from QB coach to HC in like 2.5 years. The hit rate on these guys is not high outside of the once in a decade guys like McVay. Tough to be in your early 30s and be able to put together a great staff of guys who have done it. Have the same fear with Kubiak as a candidate but I think his dad and his background would at least provide a major leg up on anyone else of his age and experience.
Giving Lou Anarumo a look is a good idea. That would be good for the defense. Probably could get a guy like Dan Pitcher to be OC who's looking to move on because he doesn't call plays.
 
Giving Lou Anarumo a look is a good idea. That would be good for the defense. Probably could get a guy like Dan Pitcher to be OC who's looking to move on because he doesn't call plays.
That could be a very solid hire. Pitcher has been trending upward for a few years now for sure.

I still think it's going to be Daboll as HC, Webb as playcalling OC and fill in crusty vet DC. No idea how it will go but I can certainly see it
 
That could be a very solid hire. Pitcher has been trending upward for a few years now for sure.

I still think it's going to be Daboll as HC, Webb as playcalling OC and fill in crusty vet DC. No idea how it will go but I can certainly see it
A pretty good guess - Daboll / Webb. Am up in the air about Daboll.
 
Sounds like Brady vs Daboll. It really comes down to who they would get as DC, but I can't stress enough how bad Daboll was in NY. Every word coming out of there was the operation he ran was a joke.
I really dont think Daboll as HC was bad with the Giants.. Successful not enough.

How they got that roster to blow leads shows some level of coaching.
 
I really dont think Daboll as HC was bad with the Giants.. Successful not enough.

How they got that roster to blow leads shows some level of coaching.
A quick google search says otherwise.
 
That could be a very solid hire. Pitcher has been trending upward for a few years now for sure.

I still think it's going to be Daboll as HC, Webb as playcalling OC and fill in crusty vet DC. No idea how it will go but I can certainly see it
Nervous about Webb as well. Could be a home run but it scares me to bring in someone that was one of Josh's buddies for a couple years to then be his superior.
 
A pretty good guess - Daboll / Webb. Am up in the air about Daboll.
It's a hire that would be tough to be 100% all in on. It makes sense in some ways but no denying that his Giants tenure was rough to say the least but he would not be the first HC to get a 2nd chance after a rough first go around. It's either an interview to keep his local supporters happy or Beane knows who he wants
 
Nervous about Webb as well. Could be a home run but it scares me to bring in someone that was one of Josh's buddies for a couple years to then be his superior.
Tough to have it both ways, Josh is either involved or he isn't which he definitely has some say and maybe Daboll as HC, Webb as OC is a decent path or compromise for all but make no mistake if Webb is as good as people say and think he is he won't be in Buffalo long as an OC and if he is that GOOD maybe best to just hire him a year or two early. Tough call and a big risk. That said, if the team of Daboll/ Webb works which would mean getting to a SB and possibly winning it nobody will care when Webb leaves.

I am of the mindset that Daboll is probably better that many of his critics think he is and Webb probably isn't the 2nd coming of McVay but obviously has a really bright future as an OC and HC sometime sooner rather than later but being an OC for Sean Payton isn't really being a full blown OC by any means
 
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How is it hyperbole? Go take a pole of bills fans and see what they would consider success? It’s got nothing to do with twitter. We’ve done 4 superbowls and lost them all. Getting to and losing a 5th won’t be looked at as success.

And with the current “modern” team, 8 years of playoffs. We’ve done all this over and over.

You might feel differently. You’d also be in the minority

Honestly, it's about where I'm at. The regular season means almost nothing to me anymore. They could go 17-0 and I would not care unless they at the very least made it to the Super Bowl.
 

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