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NineOneSeven said:
Rumor that Jakobi Meyers is on trade block. I’d take him 110%.
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Sounds like Olave is as well. His injury history is troublesome but he's more of the WR type the Bills needs then Meyers as Buffalo has to many slot types already.
 
STEVEHOLT said:
It’s pure arrogance. It’s believing your system is more important than the player. Systems only go so far.

Now they are doing it with Coleman. They drafted him and despite complete ineffectiveness the vast majority of games, he continues to lead all receivers in snaps. Of course you don’t give up on guys this early but that’s different than continuing to gameplan as if he’s actually good. The bills aren’t in a developmental phase. It’s superbowl or bust. This isn’t the time to have your “outside threat” learn the trade.
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The system crap is so annoying. It's like McDermott thinks that no one but former players of his can play in his system. How many free agents can we bring in that are either ex-Panthers or Bills retreads? It's insane.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
I know the popular opinion is to blame the receivers for the past couple of weeks, but this here explains Allen isn’t playing well and the offensive line is struggling as well. Guys were open.

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kind of the way I am looking at it as well. O line and Josh need to play better. Could they use better wide receiver play? sure but they have the same talent at WR they had last year, the issue to me is poor o line play which has lead to Josh not playing well too. That's what they have to get fixed because you aren't fixing the safety or the WR this year, IMO and yes Joe Brady needs to help fix it as well because he has had a rough few weeks as well.

Get Gabe Davis back and try to pick up what you can at WR or safety and put a band aid on a cut that could probably use stitches for now. To me the only realistic way to get back on track is for Josh to play much better and whatever that takes they need to figure it out at least for the short term.
 
JeremyCuse said:
Sounds like Olave is as well. His injury history is troublesome but he's more of the WR type the Bills needs then Meyers as Buffalo has to many slot types already.
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They can definitely figure out a way to make Olave's remaining portion of his cap hit work for this year. Squeezing in the $15.5m for next year would be pretty tough but it's manageable for a guy with his talent. The concussion concerns are extremely tough though. He's going to require a massive extension and with 5 or 6 concussions already noted in his career, I'd be pretty scared of giving him a 4/$100m type extension that he's likely to be looking at.

Tough spot for a GM to make that call. Get him into 2026 without issues and hand out that extension and he takes another big shot and you're on the hook and everyone is calling you an idiot and that you should've known better.
 
upperdeck said:
wouldnt they just buy insurance and get the cap money back the next year?
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Could be the approach. If a player retires due to a medical/injury issue, their salary doesn't count against the cap, right?
 
IthacaBarrel said:
If Beane trades for Olave and when he gets hurt which he will people will complain about what a bad trade it was!
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I'm obviously frustrated with our WR position as I think any reasonable fan should be, but this is kind of the thing right? It's not like the safety position where we took Bishop and then Hancock or whatever his name is with a Day 3 pick and called it a day.

We spent our first pick on Coleman (granted a slight trade down, but still basically a 1st round pick). We traded for Cooper. We signed Samuel (who all the film guys loved). We signed Palmer to a fairly significant contract. We've just seemingly gone 0/4.

I will also say, I was perfectly fine with the Coleman pick at the time; think he was a promising prospect. But I do think the way we treated that draft probably points to one of my issues with Beane as a GM. I just don't agree with the way he views things a lot of the time. I strongly suspect that he never even considered McConkey or Worthy because they weren't traditional X receivers (and to be fair, I didn't like Worthy either but I did like McConkey a lot). I strongly believe that our decision was basically between Coleman, Legette, AD Mitchell, and maybe Ja'Lynn Polk. And to be fair, he probably did get the best of that bunch, at least so far. But it's just a flawed way of thinking IMO and that comes up pretty frequently with Beane.

Regarding trade targets and whatnot, I do kinda wonder if even a relatively bad deep threat (think Valdes-Scantling types) would provide more impact for our offense right now than someone like Jakobi Meyers who is obviously a much better player but isn't necessarily addressing our biggest need. Like maybe someone like Christian Watson could make sense for us; Packers are super deep at WR and he's still young, has been explosive in the past, and has the size and speed we're theoretically looking for.
 
Melancer46 said:
I'm obviously frustrated with our WR position as I think any reasonable fan should be, but this is kind of the thing right? It's not like the safety position where we took Bishop and then Hancock or whatever his name is with a Day 3 pick and called it a day.

We spent our first pick on Coleman (granted a slight trade down, but still basically a 1st round pick). We traded for Cooper. We signed Samuel (who all the film guys loved). We signed Palmer to a fairly significant contract. We've just seemingly gone 0/4.

I will also say, I was perfectly fine with the Coleman pick at the time; think he was a promising prospect. But I do think the way we treated that draft probably points to one of my issues with Beane as a GM. I just don't agree with the way he views things a lot of the time. I strongly suspect that he never even considered McConkey or Worthy because they weren't traditional X receivers (and to be fair, I didn't like Worthy either but I did like McConkey a lot). I strongly believe that our decision was basically between Coleman, Legette, AD Mitchell, and maybe Ja'Lynn Polk. And to be fair, he probably did get the best of that bunch, at least so far. But it's just a flawed way of thinking IMO and that comes up pretty frequently with Beane.

Regarding trade targets and whatnot, I do kinda wonder if even a relatively bad deep threat (think Valdes-Scantling types) would provide more impact for our offense right now than someone like Jakobi Meyers who is obviously a much better player but isn't necessarily addressing our biggest need. Like maybe someone like Christian Watson could make sense for us; Packers are super deep at WR and he's still young, has been explosive in the past, and has the size and speed we're theoretically looking for.
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Watson is always hurt.
 
Melancer46 said:
I'm obviously frustrated with our WR position as I think any reasonable fan should be, but this is kind of the thing right? It's not like the safety position where we took Bishop and then Hancock or whatever his name is with a Day 3 pick and called it a day.

We spent our first pick on Coleman (granted a slight trade down, but still basically a 1st round pick). We traded for Cooper. We signed Samuel (who all the film guys loved). We signed Palmer to a fairly significant contract. We've just seemingly gone 0/4.

I will also say, I was perfectly fine with the Coleman pick at the time; think he was a promising prospect. But I do think the way we treated that draft probably points to one of my issues with Beane as a GM. I just don't agree with the way he views things a lot of the time. I strongly suspect that he never even considered McConkey or Worthy because they weren't traditional X receivers (and to be fair, I didn't like Worthy either but I did like McConkey a lot). I strongly believe that our decision was basically between Coleman, Legette, AD Mitchell, and maybe Ja'Lynn Polk. And to be fair, he probably did get the best of that bunch, at least so far. But it's just a flawed way of thinking IMO and that comes up pretty frequently with Beane.

Regarding trade targets and whatnot, I do kinda wonder if even a relatively bad deep threat (think Valdes-Scantling types) would provide more impact for our offense right now than someone like Jakobi Meyers who is obviously a much better player but isn't necessarily addressing our biggest need. Like maybe someone like Christian Watson could make sense for us; Packers are super deep at WR and he's still young, has been explosive in the past, and has the size and speed we're theoretically looking for.
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I was a Legette guy.
 
Melancer46 said:
I'm obviously frustrated with our WR position as I think any reasonable fan should be, but this is kind of the thing right? It's not like the safety position where we took Bishop and then Hancock or whatever his name is with a Day 3 pick and called it a day.

We spent our first pick on Coleman (granted a slight trade down, but still basically a 1st round pick). We traded for Cooper. We signed Samuel (who all the film guys loved). We signed Palmer to a fairly significant contract. We've just seemingly gone 0/4.

I will also say, I was perfectly fine with the Coleman pick at the time; think he was a promising prospect. But I do think the way we treated that draft probably points to one of my issues with Beane as a GM. I just don't agree with the way he views things a lot of the time. I strongly suspect that he never even considered McConkey or Worthy because they weren't traditional X receivers (and to be fair, I didn't like Worthy either but I did like McConkey a lot). I strongly believe that our decision was basically between Coleman, Legette, AD Mitchell, and maybe Ja'Lynn Polk. And to be fair, he probably did get the best of that bunch, at least so far. But it's just a flawed way of thinking IMO and that comes up pretty frequently with Beane.

Regarding trade targets and whatnot, I do kinda wonder if even a relatively bad deep threat (think Valdes-Scantling types) would provide more impact for our offense right now than someone like Jakobi Meyers who is obviously a much better player but isn't necessarily addressing our biggest need. Like maybe someone like Christian Watson could make sense for us; Packers are super deep at WR and he's still young, has been explosive in the past, and has the size and speed we're theoretically looking for.
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I really hope they explored the option of trading up to get Brian Thomas Jr. in that draft. I can't imagine the cost to get there would have been crazy. It was the move I wanted them to make when he fell into the 20's. I know he's having a bit of a sophomore slump but he would've been a perfect fit in this offense and offered Josh a truly dynamic playmaker.
 
I know it’s the titans , but New England’s offense looks much smoother than ours has all year against some pretty bad defenses
 
So after watching a bunch of games today with the clarity of no bills game this week, it appears to me the other teams just have much better players on offense .. even average teams . Most of the better teams have better third receivers than our 1
 
I can't get over how the defense is both small and slow. Be good at something. Nate Tice even mentioned this last week so it's not just us. The gap with the Chiefs seems wider than its ever been.
 

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