BYU NIL deal

[OrangeMojo]

Welp - that didn’t take long for the NIL ruling to be used by a program to its advantage. Just wait until the SEC hears about this and imagine what kinds of deals they’re going to come up with…

BYU's 36 walk-ons all got NIL deals in a way that will likely change college athletics forever

This is cool! But be skeptical of it.

ftw.usatoday.com

 

[PhatOrange]

Yeah that’s crazy, so I would just cut down the size of the total team. Go no more than say 95 players or whatever on a team, scholarshiped, and the walkons can live the dream in D2. Going to have to expand the rosters at some point anyways because of the transfer rules.

 

[All4SU]

How is this NiL? These are not individuals negotiating for compensation based on their “singular” marketability.
What is to stop a car dealer from giving free autos to every player? This doesn’t look like a “loophole” to me. It looks like straight up payments to athletes.

 

[OrangeMojo]

Yeah that’s crazy, so I would just cut down the size of the total team. Go no more than say 95 players or whatever on a team, scholarshiped, and the walkons can live the dream in D2. Going to have to expand the rosters at some point anyways because of the transfer rules.

Exactly - scholarship limits are effectively eliminated if this is allowed to stand. Alabama can say - we’re out of scholarships, but don’t worry - our sponsors will cover your costs if you come here.

 

[dollarbill44]

Exactly - scholarship limits are effectively eliminated if this is allowed to stand. Alabama can say - we’re out of scholarships, but don’t worry - our sponsors will cover your costs if you come here.

I mean, don't they do that already at a lot of the big schools? It's just not so out in the open.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

How is this NiL? These are not individuals negotiating for compensation based on their “singular” marketability.
What is to stop a car dealer from giving free autos to every player? This doesn’t look like a “loophole” to me. It looks like straight up payments to athletes.

It is a weird area. Their singular marketability appears to come from the collective identity as walk-ons.

Personally, I'm for it. Walk-ons getting their tuition paid... that's so good for them.

 

[All4SU]

It is a weird area. Their singular marketability appears to come from the collective identity as walk-ons.

Personally, I'm for it. Walk-ons getting their tuition paid... that's so good for them.

The precedent is potentially (likely) catastrophic to a level playing field in college sports. Hell even the pros have salary caps.

 

[orangenauburn]

The precedent is potentially (likely) catastrophic to a level playing field in college sports. Hell even the pros have salary caps.

Yup. They just essentially told the big time programs with big pockets, game on.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The precedent is potentially (likely) catastrophic to a level playing field in college sports. Hell even the pros have salary caps.

I'm good with it.

More athletes benefitting is a positive outcome. I don't care if it makes a playing field unlevel.

 

[upperdeck]

they already have a team limit on players. its not like they can have a roster of 200..

 

[PhatOrange]

they already have a team limit on players. its not like they can have a roster of 200..

I believe the limit is 105 players - that's 20 walkons ...errr now 20 more scholarshipped players. So big money schools will just take 20 more P5 players and get them free tuition deals. The only way I see to really counter that is to reduce the roster sizes and no more walkons.

 

[upperdeck]

so if these kids walk on and get 75K in perks so school is free they are getting way more than the majority of the scholie kids are getting in NIL.. since they are getting the money for doing NIL stuff then they now owe like 20K in taxes too wouldnt they?

 

[PhatOrange]

so if these kids walk on and get 75K in perks so school is free they are getting way more than the majority of the scholie kids are getting in NIL.. since they are getting the money for doing NIL stuff then they now owe like 20K in taxes too wouldnt they?

I have no idea how all that is going to work with taxes but your 75K example is why private schools are screwed. That's not the tuition bill for all the Florida kids we have on our roster if they end up at FSU as walkons and free tuition sponsorships.

 

[upperdeck]

but they can still only take 20 kids and i would suspect even amongst the fl/FSU/UCF/USF/miami our kids would still be outside most of their 100 walkons they offer since many higher ranked FL kids might come home as well.

 

[Pyle]

Boosters at SEC schools are probably filling out LLC applications as we speak. One sham company per school to fund all the walk-ons and pay other perks. I can see it now, Harry's LLC founded in 2021, proud maker of nothing and providing our customers with the best no service money can buy.

 

[UpstateSM]

This doesn’t even have to be NIL haha the guy could have just given the money as a scholarship like Mark Titus does with a basketball walk-on every year. It’s a big nothing.

 

[upperdeck]

This doesn’t even have to be NIL haha the guy could have just given the money as a scholarship like Mark Titus does with a basketball walk-on every year. It’s a big nothing.

no its not the same . one goes to the kid , one goes to the school. one requires the kid to do something outside the schools guidance.. the schools could except 20 scholies of money I suppose but thats not NIL so the kid wouldnt get money. in this case you have kids getting free rides and paying taxes but not really getting money which is way more than most kids would get from NIL.

I mean is it really a value to any company doing this for a million at most schools? JB isnt getting paid a million to do his ads locally. these kids provide no value by wearing practice patches which guess means the schools are OK with that but what if the leagues pass some rule against it like they do with ads on jerseys?