Class of 2018 Chase Scanlan (NY: Silver Creek / IMG) Mid Transfer from Loyola to Syracuse

[JeremyCuse]

Todays Update:

Just caught up with Chase Scanlan, who is in Baltimore today. He said he's down to Hopkins, Virginia, Cornell and Syracuse with plans to commit by Sunday. An update from earlier in the week, having eliminated Penn St. & Maryland since then:

Hope he made it to SU earlier in the week as someone noted on that message board (assuming he wasn't trolling). Would feel a lot better about our chances if he visits. Still seems shaky but good to see our name still listed.

 

[DoctahLexus]

Niiiice very good news! Cornell could lead to some issues for him with their admissions and there was also some rumor about him not actually meeting with the coaches when he visited there. With UVA I think we have to just hope there is no room for him with the stacked recruiting class coming in. They are so stacked on offense he would maybe have to legitimately worry about playing time. Even more likely is that Tiffany would worry about it antagonizing their promising young recruits. Hopkins...please just dont got to Hopkins. They don't even seem poised to have a good year next year. Losing a good deal of talent on all ends of the field. Bad defense, underwhelming middies, boring offense that wouldn't function without moving picks. Just don't go to Hopkins. Yes I am hopelessly biased.

I hope he spoke with Xanders in that first article before he actually visited SU and maybe that made us a more legitimate contender in his eyes.

 

[im4cuse]

Didn't he express an interest for a "blue collar" environment when leaving Loyola? Cornell, UVA and Hopkins not what I'd word associate with blue collar

 

[ClvrUsrnm]

Didn't he express an interest for a "blue collar" environment when leaving Loyola? Cornell, UVA and Hopkins not what I'd word associate with blue collar

He later clarified his comments. He wasn’t comfortable with the environment around campus. Seemed like he felt like a fish out of water. His best friend on the team was Pat Spencer, too.

 

[Powellfan]

Good to be in the discussion that is for sure. Still seems like a very random assortment of schools, hope he ends up making the right choice for himself. Can't imagine this will be easy for the young man. The way I see things breaking down are as follows -

Syracuse - Seems to have the largest collection of "knowns", he will have former teammates from IMG on the team, and knows a good number of Iroquois Nationals who played at SU. Would certainly fill a need given that Desko offered the 22 jersey. With technically four starting midfielders returning, Scanlan could move to attack, or bump a midfielder down there depending on what the coaches think would be best. He'd probably draw team's best defender which would free up others for big production. Is that a role he would want? Some guys don't always want to be "the guy". Obviously the Haudenosaunee Promise Scholarship is a big advantage, as it covers not just tuition, but also room and board and meals. No other school can offer that.
Cornell - Scanlan would get to play with Teat, but only for one year, and even with Teat, Cornell didn't make the playoffs last year. Still, he would finish with a degree from an Ivy League school and play relatively close to home. Plus it sounds like he could study Native American studies which he sounded interested in.
Johns Hopkins - From outside observer, the biggest head-scratcher of the schools included. He'd be tied to Joey Epstien for three years which has to be a draw, and he would fill an obvious need as the Blue Jays are struggling at the midfield. Can't remember Hopkins ever having a Native player on their team before, but maybe there is some draw in Scanlan to be the first. Plus he'd already be acclimated to the city after playing at Loyola.
Virginia - The front runner right now has a lot to offer as they are coming off a National Championship and have a lot of players returning next year. They could certainly use Scanlan at the midfield where they lose Conrad, but UVa also has a lot of highly rated recruits coming in the next few years. Would they risk upsetting the future kids by taking on a sure thing in Scanlan? Future recruits could always tell themselves he's not taking their position, it'll be someone else whose playing time is cut, so it could work out just fine for Tiffany and co. Plus he has his cousin Zed Williams to vouch for the school and team. He wouldn't have to be the man at UVA, though there is still only one ball and Kraus, Aitkin, Moore and Laviano demand a lot of it. He may be fine not being "the man", but is he fine sharing the ball with so many other dynamic players? I do wonder if UVA has the money to offer Scanlan, but again I'm not 100% sure how this stuff works with transfers.

 

[jr4750]

Has there ever been a Native American #22? That’s got to be somewhat enticing for Chase, right?

Edit: right, forgot about Jammer. My bad

 

[DoctahLexus]

Has there ever been a Native American #22? That’s got to be somewhat enticing for Chase, right?

Cody Jamieson!

 

[ivorytower]

Good to be in the discussion that is for sure. Still seems like a very random assortment of schools, hope he ends up making the right choice for himself. Can't imagine this will be easy for the young man. The way I see things breaking down are as follows -

Syracuse - Seems to have the largest collection of "knowns", he will have former teammates from IGM on the team, and knows a good number of Iroquois Nationals who played at SU. Would certainly fill a need given that Desko offered the 22 jersey. With technically four starting midfielders returning, Scanlan could move to attack, or bump a midfielder down there depending on what the coaches think would be best. He'd probably draw team's best defender which would free up others for big production. Is that a role he would want? Some guys don't always want to be "the guy". Obviously the Haudenosaunee Promise Scholarship is a big advantage, as it covers not just tuition, but also room and board and meals. No other school can offer that.
Cornell - Scanlan would get to play with Teat, but only for one year, and even with Teat, Cornell didn't make the playoffs last year. Still, he would finish with a degree from an Ivy League school and play relatively close to home. Plus it sounds like he could study Native American studies which he sounded interested in.
Johns Hopkins - From outside observer, the biggest head-scratcher of the schools included. He'd be tied to Joey Epstien for three years which has to be a draw, and he would fill an obvious need as the Blue Jays are struggling at the midfield. Can't remember Hopkins ever having a Native player on their team before, but maybe there is some draw in Scanlan to be the first. Plus he'd already be acclimated to the city after playing at Loyola.
Virginia - The front runner right now has a lot to offer as they are coming off a National Championship and have a lot of players returning next year. They could certainly use Scanlan at the midfield where they lose Conrad, but UVa also has a lot of highly rated recruits coming in the next few years. Would they risk upsetting the future kids by taking on a sure thing in Scanlan? Future recruits could always tell themselves he's not taking their position, it'll be someone else whose playing time is cut, so it could work out just fine for Tiffany and co. Plus he has his cousin Zed Williams to vouch for the school and team. He wouldn't have to be the man at UVA, though there is still only one ball and Kraus, Aitkin, Moore and Laviano demand a lot of it. He may be fine not being "the man", but is he fine sharing the ball with so many other dynamic players? I do wonder if UVA has the money to offer Scanlan, but again I'm not 100% sure how this stuff works with transfers.

A degree from Newhouse is prestigious. He's a finisher who' d get feeds in space from many and be integral player without having to be the man or a third wheel. JHU is contradiction

 

[Delmar]

I think it would be better and healthier for lacrosse and for transferring students that their decision making process happen away from twitter and fan board speculation. I suppose transfers talking about their final four or five schools is a sign that the sport has arrived. But for me this is lacrosse appropriating some of the most problematic aspects of college football and basketball recruiting. While I mean no ill-will towards any of the higher profile transfers (this is more about the whole system), I think it would be better if they were making their decisions out of the lime-light … Okay, I confess it. I'm an old fart.

 

[Orangtiz]

Really could use some good news on Sunday. Program could use a break. I really dont know how to feel about it. I think Cuse does make the most sense based on what we've heard, but things have been so bleak off the field, I am skeptical.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Really could use some good news on Sunday. Program could use a break. I really dont know how to feel about it. I think Cuse does make the most sense based on what we've heard, but things have been so bleak off the field, I am skeptical.

I wouldn't hold my breath unfortunately. Looking like UVA.

 

[Orangtiz]

I wouldn't hold my breath unfortunately. Looking like UVA.

All i'm going to say is I wanted Tiffany 2 or 3 years ago. He's a great coach.

 

[JeremyCuse]

All i'm going to say is I wanted Tiffany 2 or 3 years ago. He's a great coach.

An embarrassment of offensive riches on that team. Crazy talent

 

[RoofBeam]

Why would Scanlan come to SU now when he decided that SU was not the place for him before his freshman year, flipping from SU to Loyola? There is no indication he wants to play closer to home. What could have changed in his analysis?

 

[ClvrUsrnm]

Why would Scanlan come to SU now when he decided that SU was not the place for him before his freshman year, flipping from SU to Loyola? There is no indication he wants to play closer to home. What could have changed in his analysis?

People change their mind. People make mistakes.

 

[Stealth4785]

Why would Scanlan come to SU now when he decided that SU was not the place for him before his freshman year, flipping from SU to Loyola? There is no indication he wants to play closer to home. What could have changed in his analysis?

Being away from friends and family for a year while at college can change people. Homesickness is a real thing.

To me, it sounds like Chase has big ambitions and wanted to forge a new path instead of following the same, easy and convenient path.

 

[Faegan]

Based upon his stated reasons for leaving - as reported - it's hard for me to get my head around UVA being a logical choice. He's a kid though and the reasons he's publicly citing may not tell the whole story.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Based upon his stated reasons for leaving - as reported - it's hard for me to get my head around UVA being a logical choice. He's a kid though and the reasons he's publicly citing may not tell the whole story.

I suspect this will resonate with Scanlan.

Lars Tiffany on the Creator's Game

 

[ivorytower]

Being away from friends and family for a year while at college can change people. Homesickness is a real thing.

To me, it sounds like Chase has big ambitions and wanted to forge a new path instead of following the same, easy and convenient path.

He is traveled and Cuse is a couple hours away from his hometown so discount homesickness being a factor nor our consideration a simple matter of convenience.

This University has considerable appeal even if it were a far distance away because it checks off many boxes. Newhouse for academics, significant financial considerations, familiarity with expansive northern culture and makeup, clear fit to a obvious need with composition and approach that fully engage his abilities, a renowned program with national coverage and exposure , a platform with a large audience with a national following and network ,offers more diversity with greater differentiation in interactions than others. Various niches and opportunities, no conformities or stepford acts needed here to be comfortable and successful.

 

[Powellfan]

He is traveled and Cuse is a couple hours away from his hometown so discount homesickness being a factor nor our consideration a simple matter of convenience.

This University has considerable appeal even if it were a far distance away because it checks off many boxes. Newhouse for academics, significant financial considerations, familiarity with expansive northern culture and makeup, clear fit to a obvious need with composition and approach that fully engage his abilities, a renowned program with national coverage and exposure , a platform with a large audience with a national following and network ,offers more diversity with greater differentiation in interactions than others. Various niches and opportunities, no conformities or stepford acts needed here to be comfortable and successful.

Really like the logic that you've brought to this discussion IT, it's refreshing to hear such laudatory things be said about Syracuse the school and the lacrosse program. I don't disagree with anything you've said. But the thing about transfers, and picking a school to attend in general, is that often logic doesn't factor in to the decision as much as it probably should. Especially for a 18-19 year old. I remember my process (without the athletics component), and the things I focused on then seem awfully trivial now. Maybe he really likes the campus of one of the schools, maybe he hits it off with a potential future teammate or coach. He can tell himself the rest of the stuff (major, tuition costs, playing style) can be figured out later. A week to decide all this in the grand scheme of things is a very short time. Anyway, hope Scanlan makes the right choice for him and makes the most of the opportunity.

 

[Stealth4785]

He is traveled and Cuse is a couple hours away from his hometown so discount homesickness being a factor nor our consideration a simple matter of convenience.

This University has considerable appeal even if it were a far distance away because it checks off many boxes. Newhouse for academics, significant financial considerations, familiarity with expansive northern culture and makeup, clear fit to a obvious need with composition and approach that fully engage his abilities, a renowned program with national coverage and exposure , a platform with a large audience with a national following and network ,offers more diversity with greater differentiation in interactions than others. Various niches and opportunities, no conformities or stepford acts needed here to be comfortable and successful.

Being traveled doesn't make one immune to being homesick. A 3hr car ride from Irving, NY to Syracuse, NY is much more doable, much more frequently than an 8hr car ride from Maryland - not just for this young man, but also family and friends. Logan Wisnauskas ring a bell?

Syracuse offers a lot of great opportunities for this young man. However, everything in the articles that I've read, leads me to believe that Chase already knows what Syracuse offers; the offer from SU reads almost like an afterthought the way it's presented. Besides, I'm sure Chase already knew what we offered, afterall he was committed at one point.

 

[illestcuse]

Welp.. well, that sucks if this is true.

 

[Whitey23]

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Welp.. well, that sucks if this is true.

The bluest of the collars.

 

[SULAXAHOLIC]

I dont see the logic in Hopkins Loyola is virtually a couple blocks up the road how different is the culture?. The only thing I see Hopkins having that would be attractive is Epstein as the elite play maker who will put the ball in his stick this is the one thing Syracuse lacks and while Scanlan would help Im not sure he fills the play maker role

 

[Hoo's That]

I dont see the logic in Hopkins Loyola is virtually a couple blocks up the road how different is the culture?. The only thing I see Hopkins having that would be attractive is Epstein as the elite play maker who will put the ball in his stick this is the one thing Syracuse lacks and while Scanlan would help Im not sure he fills the play maker role

It's less than a mile on a straight line (there are a couple of zigs and zags you have to take when you drive), but the culture difference is "day and night". The #10 school in the USN&WR national rankings vs. one that's ranked #5 in the North when you take out all the heavyweights. That list is headed by Fairfield and Providence, BTW. For many years, they and UMBC were the "Homesick U" for a lot of players who started off somewhere else.