Coach Search Options after Autry

[Cusefan0307]

And that wasn't my question. Obviously almost everyone on the board wants BH. The question is how much money would make a difference? And would it make a difference. Not to mention the Lally's haven't given a dime to hoop yet. We are hoping that if they get a coach they like, they will.

I don’t think anyone here can even do justice how bad Hops teams were scoring at Washington with good talent. It was all early Hurley UConn teams. They played hard, but they couldn’t shoot and they really couldn’t shoot. Have I mentioned Hop hates shooting and loves the zone? He’d need to completely retool his philosophy from what he did at UW. It was the ugliest offensive basketball I’ve ever seen.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Just for fun, what if Hop could raise 25 million for NIL? Would that change your mind?

Yes. Maybe we could afford Qadir to come back here. Does he get an extra year of eligibility for how many classes he skipped when he was here?

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Once we hire the guy who looks like the head of security for a Colombian drug lord we will all be happy.

 

[RF2044]

I don’t think anyone here can even do justice how bad Hops teams were scoring at Washington with good talent. It was all early Hurley UConn teams. They played hard, but they couldn’t shoot and they really couldn’t shoot. Have I mentioned Hop hates shooting and loves the zone? He’d need to completely retool his philosophy from what he did at UW. It was the ugliest offensive basketball I’ve ever seen.

Agreed.

I'm not sure that some people watched enough Washington games to appreciate how abysmal it was, on both sides of the ball.

 

[dasher]

It depends for me on what hodgson could bring in by way of comparison.

Because I squarely believe that nil donations will come in if The coach demonstrates that they can right the ship, and the product on the court improves.

We've already tried to go down the road of raising lots of money to offset the coaches glaring limitations.

Personally, I don't think it's an either or dichotomy. I think we need a coach who has a proven track record of success, who can get things back on track and get the fan base. Excited again, and then nil will result.

But I don't see the path to success being us trying to outspend SEC teams. I'd rather pick a different lane, and supplement with NIL / the portal.

Oh, but you really didn't answer my question. I know how you feel about the whole thing. What I want to know is does your view change if a candidate like Hop, or Gerry raise a ridiculous amount for NIL. Much more than we are currently getting or will get because once again it's the Saudi Prince who just loves Syracuse hoop. Would have donated before but JB insulted him when he worked at the daily Orange.

 

[BigNastyJon]

Once we hire the guy who looks like the head of security for a Colombian drug lord we will all be happy.

Lmao a friend sent his picture in our group chat and said “I’m sold on this Coach Hog guy”

 

[dasher]

I don’t think anyone here can even do justice how bad Hops teams were scoring at Washington with good talent. It was all early Hurley UConn teams. They played hard, but they couldn’t shoot and they really couldn’t shoot. Have I mentioned Hop hates shooting and loves the zone? He’d need to completely retool his philosophy from what he did at UW. It was the ugliest offensive basketball I’ve ever seen.

Have you watched us this year?

 

[Jake]

Oh, but you really didn't answer my question. I know how you feel about the whole thing. What I want to know is does your view change if a candidate like Hop, or Gerry raise a ridiculous amount for NIL. Much more than we are currently getting or will get because once again it's the Saudi Prince who just loves Syracuse hoop. Would have donated before but JB insulted him when he worked at the daily Orange.

Ha, that premise sounds……half made up. lol.

 

[Orangello]

Hops time has come and passed. Love him as he bleeds Orange but he's not the answer. We need to turn the page and put the accelerator down. Win and the $ will come.

 

[phil77]

Just for fun, what if Hop could raise 25 million for NIL? Would that change your mind?

Hmmm that is an interesting debate...

What kind of guarantees come on that 25 million?
Is he getting 25 million every year?
Is that in addition to what the school and Vegas tourney will provide?

Depending on those answers it still wouldn't be a slam dunk for me...

 

[RF2044]

Oh, but you really didn't answer my question. I know how you feel about the whole thing. What I want to know is does your view change if a candidate like Hop, or Gerry raise a ridiculous amount for NIL. Much more than we are currently getting or will get because once again it's the Saudi Prince who just loves Syracuse hoop. Would have donated before but JB insulted him when he worked at the daily Orange.

I don't really care about this hypothetical. I think. Mike Hopkins got exposed, and the Peter Principle hit him squarely on the head, demonstrating that his top level is assistant coach.

No amount of money is going to change that limited upside. We are currently witnessing a team that was supposed to push another x's and O's challenged coach over the top, but it didn't happen because the coaching held the team back.

I would rather have a coach who knows what he's doing, who also has upside with respect to raising NIL funds, And take my chances with the product on the court bringing the fan base back.

If Mike Hopkins can raise 25 million for nil, then give him boeheim's job.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Agreed.

I'm not sure that some people watched enough Washington games to appreciate how abysmal it was, on both sides of the ball.

My wife is a Washington alum and I watched far too many games. Woof.

I love Hop, he and Autry are the first two players I ever met growing up. Couldn’t have been nicer to me. Neither should be the HC.

 

[dasher]

Hmmm that is an interesting debate...

What kind of guarantees come on that 25 million?
Is he getting 25 million every year?
Is that in addition to what the school and Vegas tourney will provide?

Depending on those answers it still wouldn't be a slam dunk for me...

It's in addition . But like all investors, he wants to see what Hop can do with his donation.

 

[23Zone]

Stop the Hop

 

[hoopsupstate]

Agreed.

I'm not sure that some people watched enough Washington games to appreciate how abysmal it was, on both sides of the ball.

Show the tape to the people making the decision. After watching the tape, they will think Autry is an offensive guru.

 

[dasher]

I don't really care about this hypothetical. I think. Mike Hopkins got exposed, and the Peter principal hit him squarely on the head, demonstrating that his top level is assisting coach.

No amount of money is going to change that. We are currently witnessing a team that was supposed to push another x's and O's challenged coach over the top, but it didn't happen because the coaching held the team back.

I would rather have a coach who knows what he's doing, who also has upside with respect to raising NIL funds, And take my chances with the product on the court bringing the fan base back.

If Mike Hopkins can raise 25 million for nil, then give him boeheim's job.

I'm having fun with this RF. It's not life and death. But there is a number that we couldn't ignore.

 

[23Zone]

If it's not Hodgson, people are going to be pissed off.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Hmmm that is an interesting debate...

What kind of guarantees come on that 25 million?
Is he getting 25 million every year?
Is that in addition to what the school and Vegas tourney will provide?

Depending on those answers it still wouldn't be a slam dunk for me...

22 mil at Kentucky gets you a 17-9 record just for reference. 30 in the net / 29 kenpom.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Have you watched us this year?

I have. As bad as we are this year Hops teams were worse. In 6 years there he scored over 70ppg one time. He went 15-17 and shot 44% with two first round picks and Nahz Carter on his roster.

 

[dasher]

22 mil at Kentucky gets you a 17-9 record just for reference. 30 in the net / 29 kenpom.

I would love to know what each school in the SEC has to play with. The Big 10 as well.

 

[RF2044]

I'm having fun with this RF. It's not life and death. But there is a number that we couldn't ignore.

That's cool. Like you, I'm tired of the mediocrity. I just had an unexpected medical situation unfold in the last weeks, that thankfully resolved favorably, but could have gone in a different direction. Life is short, I want to see Syracuse basketball be good again.

I'm tired of rationalization, excuses, and people trying to talk themselves into subpar candidates being the right guys to turn things around.

 

[BigNastyJon]

because once again it's the Saudi Prince who just loves Syracuse hoop. Would have donated before but JB insulted him when he worked at the daily Orange.

I’m LOLing picturing that guy sitting next to the Axeman in some crowded presser and Boeheim calling him an idiot.

 

[dasher]

I’m LOLing picturing that guy sitting next to the Axeman in some crowded presser and Boeheim calling him an idiot.

It turned out to be a sad day for Syracuse hoops.

 

[AZOrange]

Ed Cooley? Consider that a dodged bullet.

Nah but there was a time when UA coach was possible

 

[hoopsupstate]

Have to admit this is one of the best threads in a long time.