Coach Search Options after Autry

[23Zone]

You think??

Freeman went in late yesterday, decided the game was over, fouled immediately, then got T'd-up seconds later and fouled-out on purpose... and went straight to the locker room.

This team is just treading water waiting for the inevitable...

Freeman will a Free Man next season once we have an entirely new roster. So frustrating with all that length he plays like he is a 6'2 shooting guard and has zero inside game or physical toughness. Maybe Red was unable to light his fire

 

[RF2044]

Freeman will a Free Man next season once we have an entirely new roster. So frustrating with all that length he plays like he is a 6'2 shooting guard and has zero inside game or physical toughness. Maybe Red was unable to light his fire

Or maybe he wasn't coached properly, which is why he hasn't actualized his potential.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Aware of that obviously. Where will he be voted after the season? And which is a better indicator of his talent and impact on this season?

You literally posted “projected”.

Now, personally I think JJ (and Bell) being the focus of the team(s) were fatal mistakes regardless if other coaches voted JJ as 2nd team All ACC. That’s more a function of other coaches being nice putting a vote on who they thought SU’s best player would be and not having much of an alternative. I think Syracuse coaches (JAB, too) have repeatedly prioritized worse performing players over the ones who can actually play. But let’s not confuse that with not being able to get good talent.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Freeman will a Free Man next season once we have an entirely new roster. So frustrating with all that length he plays like he is a 6'2 shooting guard and has zero inside game or physical toughness. Maybe Red was unable to light his fire

IMO, I'd like some of our kids to stay so we can see what they do with a different coach.

We're disposed of too many kids lately who have turned out OK with different leadership.

 

[RedtheGOB]

IMO, I'd like some of our kids to stay so we can see what they do with a different coach.

We're disposed of too many kids lately who have turned out OK with different leadership.

Big nope to that. Keep Kingz and Sadiq as bench pieces. If they want to fight for starting mins that’s on them staying here but a major housecleaning is needed.

 

[23Zone]

IMO, I'd like some of our kids to stay so we can see what they do with a different coach.

We're disposed of too many kids lately who have turned out OK with different leadership.

 

[bballbeadle]

I will go and ask the Prince, BRB

Hope you come back in one piece. Ulp!

 

[elimunelson]

Scheyer is a product of Duke's infrastructure, IMO. Stick Amaker, Dawkins, Wojo, Collins in there they'd all get propped up the same way with that talent. The Brotherhood, Iron Dukes, etc stuff is real.

How about Pete Gaudet?

 

[Cuse2023]

Mike Hopkins getting a legitimate look, with the current state of the program, goes to show the deep-rooted issues with the decision-makers at the university.

The fact that they are even entertaining it because he’s got some old friends that are willing to back him indicates that they have learned nothing.

I know he’s very likely not to get the job, but just the fact that it’s something we have to discuss is blasphemy.

 

[Consigliere]

You literally posted “projected”.

Now, personally I think JJ (and Bell) being the focus of the team(s) were fatal mistakes regardless if other coaches voted JJ as 2nd team All ACC. That’s more a function of other coaches being nice putting a vote on who they thought SU’s best player would be and not having much of an alternative. I think Syracuse coaches (JAB, too) have repeatedly prioritized worse performing players over the ones who can actually play. But let’s not confuse that with not being able to get good talent.

Meant projected end of season, which is an actual award. not predicted pre season which is an unscientific poll. But understandable confusion.
Guess the only thing left to do on forums like this is to debate opinions. But can’t understand anyone looking at this team objectively and definitively expressing that it is exceptionally talented.
Some very good pieces. Capable of being better than the current record. But Top 25 good? Just don’t see it.

 

[LAorange44]

Raising money is a part of the job now and a key piece of leverage. Hop has the old money network in his corner apparently. Brian Hodgson has his sugar daddy Lally according to rumors. Does Brian Hodgson turn on the old money donors? Idk. Is Lally into supporting his sugar baby long term? I also don’t know. Much bigger decisions than just basketball acumen at this point. You lose the money flow and your program is cooked.

 

[2B20Again]

Or maybe he wasn't coached properly, which is why he hasn't actualized his potential.

No an excuse for Freeman but numbers of games played makes this the end of his freshman year. And we all know about freshmen.

 

[bballbeadle]

Anyone BFF with Carmelo and know where he stands?

 

[capeorange]

Anyone BFF with Carmelo and know where he stands?

Probably

 

[malpearl31]

WVU says hi

Interesting non sequitir. Or are you actually suggesting that Jesse’s development is more attributable to WVU than to Syracuse?

 

[Frozen]

Mike Hopkins getting a legitimate look, with the current state of the program, goes to show the deep-rooted issues with the decision-makers at the university.

Reminds me of when Dino was fired and there was supposedly one trustee - and possibly more than one - who wanted Don McPherson as the new head coach.

 

[sufan59]

Mike Hopkins getting a legitimate look, with the current state of the program, goes to show the deep-rooted issues with the decision-makers at the university.

The fact that they are even entertaining it because he’s got some old friends that are willing to back him indicates that they have learned nothing.

I know he’s very likely not to get the job, but just the fact that it’s something we have to discuss is blasphemy.

I like Mike Hopkins and appreciate everything he has done for Syracuse, but this is just crazy. Like perhaps the Hopkins people should’ve been a lot more aggressive a decade ago. The window where it made sense passed. Put that energy into GMAC because his day could come sooner than you think. It seems more and more obvious what is going on behind the scenes. Basically the auction for influence and power over the program. Best case scenario for the Syracuse fans is the Hodgson backers don’t back down and go further in. Need to turn the Hopkins backers whoever they may be into Hodgson backers even if it’s at smaller levels than they would for Hopkins. This is a big part of the problem, the old guard makes these things so political and in the end it ends up hurting everyone. We’re trying to win basketball games and have everyone enjoy the energy boost it gives the community when that happens. Hodgson has a program and stock on an upward trajectory, Hopkins is an assistant in the NBA after not getting the job done at a well resourced Washington program. Pray this ends in unity and around the guy that makes the most sense in 2026.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Meant projected end of season, which is an actual award. not predicted pre season which is an unscientific poll. But understandable confusion.
Guess the only thing left to do on forums like this is to debate opinions. But can’t understand anyone looking at this team objectively and definitively expressing that it is exceptionally talented.
Some very good pieces. Capable of being better than the current record. But Top 25 good? Just don’t see it.

Can you answer my question why we beat Tennessee a competed with Houston/Kansas without Freeman? Why have we been boatraced by worse teams since?

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Gmac had some issues recruiting, but I don’t think it was a coincidence that JJ Starling shot the ball best his first year here once he worked with Gmac. That was one area he excelled at whether it be with Gbinije, Buddy, and others.

I do think it’s a bit of a black mark on the program that Girard went to Clemson and had his best season by far while playing m2m on an elite 8 team..

Red was never a great shooter. He wasn’t horrible, but rather pedestrian. He was a career 33% 3 point shooter and career 75% FT shooter. GMac was a career 36% 3 pt shooter and 90% FT shooter.

Also, Red played on teams with significantly better talent (Moten being key) which often allowed him to get off easier, unguarded shots. By GMac’s junior year he was the main focus of the offense and his numbers declined a bit. Red was never the main focus of the offense.

Basically, I think GMac understood the mechanics of shooting significantly better than Red.

FWIW, this is not a pro-GMac for next HC post. This is a post stating GMac knows more about shooting than Red and is a better coach. But if we could go back in time I would have picked GMac over Red, if the decision was solely between those two to take over from JB.

But I was always an advocate for an outside hire. I’m looking forward to a break from the JB tree. Program needs a fresh start and a new identity.

 

[sufan59]

Raising money is a part of the job now and a key piece of leverage. Hop has the old money network in his corner apparently. Brian Hodgson has his sugar daddy Lally according to rumors. Does Brian Hodgson turn on the old money donors? Idk. Is Lally into supporting his sugar baby long term? I also don’t know. Much bigger decisions than just basketball acumen at this point. You lose the money flow and your program is cooked.

Pretty much spot on. Already sounding like this is a little bit more messy than it needs to be. Hodgson has got to convert the old guard backers even if it’s at smaller levels than they would’ve for their guy. And for local media members, if you follow closely, you know who they are that says the fan base has no sway on these things are full of it. It actually does. In a close call between two candidates, they will always go with what they find will be more popular amongst the fan base. If they do see this as a close call that is concerning because it’s not. Hopkins is old school that we have no idea if he can adjust to new school. Hodgson is new school.

 

[Consigliere]

Can you answer my question why we beat Tennessee a competed with Houston/Kansas without Freeman? Why have we been boatraced by worse teams since?

It’s sports. Nothing is pre ordained. Haven’t you been paying attention? Same reason we were able to beat a tournament team in SMU and a bubble team in Cal but lost to Hofstra and BC.

Anyway, I’ve said enough. Done for now. Peace.

 

[Ozone!]

I favor Hodgson though I wouldn’t discount what Hopkins has learned being an NBA Assistant coach.

 

[sufan59]

It’s sports. Nothing is pre ordained. Haven’t you been paying attention? Same reason we were able to beat a tournament team in SMU and a bubble team in Cal but lost to Hofstra and BC.

Anyway, I’ve said enough. Done for now. Peace.

We were ranked the way we did because the media had zero confidence in our coaching, system, culture, all of the other things that don’t get measured on roster alone. We were a very popular dark horse and sleeper to perform in the top 6 of the ACC, etc. Because Media wanted to provide an insurance policy in case those other things not measured on roster alone got better.

 

[Cuse2023]

A serious administration is able to get complete alignment from top to bottom. The program is basically on the line with the decision. We can’t afford to get this hire wrong.

There should be absolutely no politicking. You get the best coach that is willing to take the job, and you give him the full support of the university.

The answer is right in front of you.

 

[Briancuse]

That’s the point: he will give money to hoops with Hodgson.

That's good to hear, but why hasn't he donated in the past?