Coach Search Options after Autry

[MikeSU02]

...and / or the agreement being in place being blatantly disregarded by JB to Hop's detriment.

Mike took one for the team, for sure.

People kept deferring to JB so that JB could be happy in lieu of what was best for the program.

JB should have been gone after the second probation, no question.

 

[dasher]

...and / or the agreement being in place being blatantly disregarded by JB to Hop's detriment.

Mike took one for the team, for sure.

Oh, it most definitely was. Mike wanted certain recruits and Jim said no. those would have been kids that would end up playing for Hop if he stayed.

 

[tptcuse]

Arkansas State is 18-11 with a 9-7 conference record and is currently tied for sixth in the Sun Belt.

Hodgson is now at South Florida. They are 19-8 and first place in the American.

 

[phil77]

I've never worked in academia, but I've done a few projects over my career with academia. That is, by farrrrr, the slowest moving sector I've ever encountered. I've had academics take a full year to do things that a couple of junior-level analysts could have banged out in a week, tops.

I'm not in any way surprised that the hiring process will take an eternity. These people move at the pace of glaciers.

I work for a county office of education and I will confirm getting anything done when it comes to hiring is like pulling teeth. Everything is a process.

 

[tptcuse]

I’m not so sure Hop would turn off the fanbase. SU has a LOT of casual fans who I suspect would like that hire.

People forget this. Most Cuse fans are not like the people on this board.

 

[Scooch]

FWIW I don’t even know if Hodgson is a good choice. His resume is OK.

Honestly I’m pretty concerned it seems like it’s him or bust.

 

[dasher]

People forget this. Most Cuse fans are not like the people on this board.

Lucky them

 

[Cusefan0307]

Let’s be objective and mention one of those years was the Covid year where Washington, like NY, had insane restrictions. Fair to call it an outlier due to unusual circumstances????

Syracuse made the tournament and went to the Sweet 16 that season. He went 15-17 with two first round picks the season before.

 

[Orangezoo]

I’m not so sure Hop would turn off the fanbase. SU has a LOT of casual fans who I suspect would like that hire.

I think it’s a fair counter even if I disagree. His elevator speech to the fans upon the hire including staff , NIL etc has to be a homerun even to the casuals given most everyone knows he failed at UW in a bad way.

 

[721Comstock]

People forget this. Most Cuse fans are not like the people on this board.

Most casual fans would turn on Hop pretty quickly he failed to “play meaningful games in March”.

If not sooner.


He’s a decade removed from his east coast recruiting connections.

And was a flop as a HC.

What, exactly, is he selling to croots to get them to play for him?

 

[Cusefan0307]

People forget this. Most Cuse fans are not like the people on this board.

There’s a lot of people I know not on this board that are both locals and alums who would hate it. In fact I don’t know one person who would approve of it. Gmac would get more support.

 

[tptcuse]

Lucky them

Definitely...see my post above about being more Zen.

 

[dasher]

but like, didnt you two say that it was BH? I assumed that if BH name is making the rounds as a near done deal then they must know who the AD is

I never said it was a done deal. What I said was that I thought, and still do, that BH will get the job. But Hop is making a run at it. It will come down to who is making the decision and what is used to influence them.

 

[Scooch]

People forget this. Most Cuse fans are not like the people on this board.

For sure. Most of my alumni friends would be thrilled with GMac. They’ll probably be happy with Hopkins.

 

[LAorange44]

Syracuse made the tournament and went to the Sweet 16 that season. He went 15-17 with two first round picks the season before.

Isn’t that the same year Dino went 1-10 under similar circumstances that were brushed away as covid year. Credit to Jim. He’s the goat.

 

[Jake]

Oh, it most definitely was. Mike wanted certain recruits and Jim said no. those would have been kids that would end up playing for Hop if he stayed.

SGA.

 

[tptcuse]

There’s a lot of people I know not on this board that are both locals and alums who would hate it. In fact I don’t know one person who would approve of it. Gmac would get more support.

Yes but Syracuse LOVES nostalgia.

 

[Scooch]

Most casual fans would turn on Hop pretty quickly he failed to “play meaningful games in March”.

If not sooner.

They’ll do the same with anyone. You think the fanbase will give Hodgson multiple years to make the tourney?

 

[Orangezoo]

FWIW I don’t even know if Hodgson is a good choice. His resume is OK.

Honestly I’m pretty concerned it seems like it’s him or bust.

I’ll eat these words and own up if I’m wrong but I think he fits this era of college hoops just like Oats does. He would be an injection of youth at the position, just as Fran has been and bring a swagger even if that has negatives in terms of being over the top or seeming like an arrogant .

 

[007]

...and / or the agreement being in place being blatantly disregarded by JB to Hop's detriment.

Mike took one for the team, for sure.

I would guess that there are members of the BoT who appreciate Mike for his integrity and saving the university from that PR nightmare

 

[hoopsupstate]

...which makes me wonder whether that person(s) making the decision (whomever that is) truly understands the urgency of the hire - both in terms of timing (portal, etc) and just basketball/program acumen

Case in point was Penn State. They totally screwed up the timing of their hire and the portal and they fired their coach early and still couldn’t get it done.

 

[721Comstock]

They’ll do the same with anyone. You think the fanbase will give Hodgson multiple years to make the tourney?

Don’t think he’d need multiple years.

 

[dasher]

Syracuse made the tournament and went to the Sweet 16 that season. He went 15-17 with two first round picks the season before.

Look, if you are going to nit pick

 

[Orangezoo]

SGA.

*Shiver* . That one still stings.

 

[phil77]

FWIW I don’t even know if Hodgson is a good choice. His resume is OK.

Honestly I’m pretty concerned it seems like it’s him or bust.

He was always my floor choice, and Hopkins is below that, so I am concerned. I have been pretty consistent with saying there are better coaches on the market (compared to BH) that we aren't even talking to or have already been turned down by so that is concerning.

We need a break from JB so bad it's not funny and BH is basically the opposite of everything we have done for the past decade.