Coach Search Options after Autry

[Sherman20]

So is Schertz the move? Or would someone from a D1 school (ISU head coach) be a better hire?

TJ Otzelberger is not leaving Iowa State. He’s not great resources there and is from the Midwest and they have had lots of recent basketball success.

Schertz already coaches in division 1. Do you mean P5? He’s got Saint Louis up to #37 in KenPom now. As you see in my previous posts in this thread, he’s the guy I think they should target asap—and Wildhack should be sowing the seeds for it in the next couple of months. Btw, Schertz makes $2 million at Saint Louis already, more than Red makes at SU. So the donors and athletic department are gonna have to step up. I could see SLU trying to sign him to an extension mid-season to make it harder to other schools to poach him.

 

[CuseBlood44]

I always thought it was worth a shot. But he turned down Indiana this offseason and that was his dream job. I know this as a fact. He isn’t coming back to coach Syracuse after turning down his dream job a couple months ago.

Nate oats would cost some money. But I think he would leave Alabama for Syracuse.

I think that ship has sailed. He’s got an SEC program with loads of cash rolling. Why would he leave the warm weather and low taxes to come be cold again and never see the sun? I guess same would apply for Hodgson, but USF to Cuse is a jump whereas Bama to Cuse isn’t anymore

 

[nyucuse]

So is Schertz the move? Or would someone from a D1 school (ISU head coach) be a better hire?

Who wouldn't love ISU's coach. But while that would seem obvious, P4 -> P4 moves are rare, notwithstanding the fact Cuse should be viewed as a far more attractive job.

I think we should expect a coach stepping up from a successful mid major. And that's not a bad thing, assuming the administration makes the right choice.

 

[Newhouser]

Why do we think the ISU coach would come here?

 

[hoopsupstate]

I think that ship has sailed. He’s got an SEC program with loads of cash rolling. Why would he leave the warm weather and low taxes to come be cold again and never see the sun? I guess same would apply for Hodgson, but USF to Cuse is a jump whereas Bama to Cuse isn’t anymore

We can no longer afford Nate Oats. Don’t even mention Hodgson. He’s not the answer.

 

[CuseBlood44]

We can no longer afford Nate Oats. Don’t even mention Hodgson. He’s not the answer.

If you’re giving up on him because his USF team isn’t amazing this year I think that’s pre mature. Shaheen halloway had a bad first year at seton hall, and St. Louis was pretty mediocre in schertz first year I think

 

[FrancoPizza]

Interesting. I hadn’t heard that he turned down Louisville. That’s wild considering the amount of resources they have among their basketball boosters. Maybe he didn’t want to backtrack after having just taken the Saint Louis job. Here’s an Athletic story on Schertz from a couple of years ago (I wish I could share a gift article with the board, but they may allow a certain amount of free views). I’m gonna write a longer post on him at some point. Also, his name is simply pronounced “shirts” for those wondering. Lol.

How Indiana State basketball’s Josh Schertz rose from ‘anonymity’ to coaching star

Josh Schertz has Indiana State headed toward its best season since Larry Bird was a Sycamore. He took a unique path to this moment.

www.nytimes.com

I read the article. I'm sold. Hire this guy!

 

[Sbucketball]

I've been harsh on SU leadership, mostly because I've been forced to watch utter slop for so long and they have not made smart decisions or showed that they care about maintaining the old bball prestige.

But I'm starting to get the feeling they might surprise us this Spring and do better than expected with the next coach.

 

[jdubs30]

I've been harsh on SU leadership, mostly because I've been forced to watch utter slop for so long and they have not made smart decisions or showed that they care about maintaining the old bball prestige.

But I'm starting to get the feeling they might surprise us this Spring and do better than expected with the next coach.

The fate of the program comes down to the next coach.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I've been harsh on SU leadership, mostly because I've been forced to watch utter slop for so long and they have not made smart decisions or showed that they care about maintaining the old bball prestige.

But I'm starting to get the feeling they might surprise us this Spring and do better than expected with the next coach.

This feeling… are you never wrong?

 

[phil77]

TJ Otzelberger is not leaving Iowa State. He’s not great resources there and is from the Midwest and they have had lots of recent basketball success.

Schertz already coaches in division 1. Do you mean P5? He’s got Saint Louis up to #37 in KenPom now. As you see in my previous posts in this thread, he’s the guy I think they should target asap—and Wildhack should be sowing the seeds for it in the next couple of months. Btw, Schertz makes $2 million at Saint Louis already, more than Red makes at SU. So the donors and athletic department are gonna have to step up. I could see SLU trying to sign him to an extension mid-season to make it harder to other schools to poach him.

If we can't beat Saint Louis for a coach then we should fold up the program period. That would be more embarrassing than actually watching Red coach

 

[Cuseloyal]

Anyone who thinks we are getting any successful current P4 coach like Oats or Otzelberger is out of their mind

 

[Blanko97]

Anyone who thinks we are getting any successful current P4 coach like Oats or Otzelberger is out of their mind

If you paid Otzelberger he would 100% leave Iowa state. Have you been to Ames? It’s a chit hole

 

[Charbroil]

If you paid Otzelberger he would 100% leave Iowa state. Have you been to Ames? It’s a chit hole

Central NY isn’t exactly paradise.

 

[nyucuse]

If you paid Otzelberger he would 100% leave Iowa state. Have you been to Ames? It’s a chit hole

Would be a dream scenario. But we rarely see P4 to P4 moves. My slight hope this offseason is that there were many high profile moves last year and so far it seems Cuse may be the highest profile to potentially make a move, and maybe by quite a margin. UNC has stabilized.. can't think of any other top tier program with a coach on the hotseat right now.

 

[nyucuse]

Central NY isn’t exactly paradise.

Honestly, quit that narrative. It is just nonsense. Depending on what you value, central NY is great.

I have traveled all over the world and lived overseas for the past 17 years. And I love coming back to CNY. Finger lakes, natural beauty, vineyards. It is great. I bring people to Green Lakes and they are blown away. Cazenovia, Skaneateles. All on your doorstep.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Central NY isn’t exactly paradise.

8 months of the year it is perfectly fine. The south is a swamp spithole 6 months of the year.

 

[Cuseloyal]

If you paid Otzelberger he would 100% leave Iowa state. Have you been to Ames? It’s a chit hole

And that’s where the problem is I don’t see us paying a coach 5-6 million. He’s already making 4 at ISU. Hey I’d love to be wrong though

 

[Blanko97]

Central NY isn’t exactly paradise.

Like i said, have you been to Ames?

 

[Blanko97]

And that’s where the problem is I don’t see us paying a coach 5-6 million. He’s already making 4 at ISU. Hey I’d love to be wrong though

Oh i dont disagree with the money issue I just think its silly that someone would think ISU is a more attractive job. You might get away paying a similar salary. I dont think itll take much to pry him away, that is if he even stays after this year.

 

[MSOrange]

Oh i dont disagree with the money issue I just think its silly that someone would think ISU is a more attractive job. You might get away paying a similar salary. I dont think itll take much to pry him away, that is if he even stays after this year.

He's already rebuilt Iowa State and he was an assistant there from 2006-13 and 2015-16. He's from Wisconsin and his wife is from Iowa. Maybe he likes it there?

 

[Blanko97]

He's already rebuilt Iowa State and he was an assistant there from 2006-13 and 2015-16. He's from Wisconsin and his wife is from Iowa. Maybe he likes it there?

Anything is possible I guess.

 

[Hawknate144]

Central NY isn’t exactly paradise.

compared to Ames I would say it kind of is, unless you have an affinity for Corn

 

[Gotothehole]

Jason Hart would the best option

 

[nyucuse]

Jason Hart would the best option

Makes zero sense