Coach Search Options after Autry

[Hopkins16]

I'm more curious what his relationship is with Melo - especially when you factor in that he is bringing Doty. I know people on this forum think Doty is a bum, but he is a better dribbler, defender, rebounder, hustler, FT shooter, and passer than Melo's son, and I think they play the same position.

Doty appears to be the better player due to the level of competition he sees at Siena. Let’s not get carried away now.

 

[richmondcuse03]

The best thing I've seen on this board! In addition to a professional staff tasked with facilitating and getting these deals done that are seasoned business people. Just like how Syracuse University prides itself on the real world experience it provides those training to be sports broadcasters and journalist. This seems like what should be a venture sports management and other students tasked with supporting the NIL office by reaching out to businesses and putting together business cases and plans of why it's beneficial to these business to invest in these athletes. I think they've tried before, but as you said, the approach is likely not resonating with the businesses, as well as the students not having the skills yet to actually get these deals processed and set up correctly. The students role is inquiring about new business and setting up the relationships and in the process learning about how these deals get set up and done. It should be something the Falk School should be looking for in prospective students that they can see have the aptitude to help in this venture. It's too important and where schools gain either a competitive advantage or disadvantage in this new game.

as Jeremy noted, they have tried but I'd argue they're not doing it the right way. Round peg in square hole type of thing. You needed people with different skillsets and new ideas. Traditional university fundraisers is not the way you do it.

 

[PauliePeppas]

This screams Gmac.

Yup

 

[Cuse1055]

The interesting thing is this NIL boost is for basketball only.

 

[richmondcuse03]

There's movement in the background at SU. JW, Blair and others are no idiots, they know the score/deal whatever saying you wanna use. They are gonna pound the pavement to get in additional funds but we also need an updated plan for moving forward to increase the outside NIL moneys.

yea, I can see you selling some whales on - we need it for this next two years while we fix the bigger apparatus. I'd argue that should have already been done but I'm demanding and a bit of a pain in the rear.

 

[Cusesky8214]

Gmac/Doty to cuse.

 

[OttosDad]

If you believe in Karma (I do), then this is playing out exactly as it should. So many here (and in the Dome) treated Red (and many of the players) terribly the last 18 months. Not universal among our fans, but gosh, that was on the whole, disappointing. At least to me. That said, in the end, a change had to be made and it has been.

Hodgson Ramblings: This does not have to be dead. It's not like SU's power brokers cannot get their "stuff" together and reapproach. It happens. Look at Liam Coen and the NFL's Jacksonville Jaguars. He just led them to a 13-win season. After an initial interview, Coen took his name out of consideration (he did not like the GM). But the owner took that feedback, made some structural/internal changes (fired the GM) and he called back. And within 24 hours, Coen accepted the job in Jacksonville.

I think it is important to recognize that modern college hoops has been inordinantly influenced by programs and coaches from the Midwest/Plains (B10/B12). Structure. Discipline. Toughness. Moving the ball. It's no longer "let's get the top kids from the Northeast (BOS/NY/NJ/Philly/DC) coordidor and roll the ball out there" I wanted Red to succeed, but he did not get buy in in terms of discipline and/or toughness. Midwestern hoops mindset is not "well, it's been four possessions since I touched the ball, when I do get it, I am going to dribble and likely shoot. Get mine." I hope the next coach can secure and keep buy in from the roster (on both ends of the floor).

I'm am into taking a real solid look at Bobby Hurley. I think it is more of a fit that most want to admit. He's not his brother. And his has vast experience, some of it in WNY and I sense he'd be able to capture an Orange NIL audience with a vision. All I am saying is he should be/can be a viable candidate, one with a higher floor and likely a lower ceiling.

Respectfully kick rocks and get lost with this take. Syracuse is a major basketball program with the pedigree and history to backup that statement.

Do you think Kenny Payne had it easy at Louisville? How about Hubert Davis whose seat has been hot his entire time at UNC? How about Mark Pope? Another alum of the school he coaches, he’s on the verge of getting canned.

This isn’t candy land. This is their boys where winning matters. Autry and the players fell well short of winning. Fans are going to be critical when that’s the case.

 

[richmondcuse03]

The interesting thing is this NIL boost is for basketball only.

That's all we need it for right now. Football gets most of the rev share and has a healthy NIL pool for this year because we've had other people running it. We are not resource constrained in football. We have enough to compete in the top half of the ACC.

 

[sufan59]

The interesting thing is this NIL boost is for basketball only.

Is it coming from the board most popular person of interest?

 

[capeorange]

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[DoctahLexus]

Doty appears to be the better player due to the level of competition he sees at Siena. Let’s not get carried away now.

Thank you.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Is it coming from the board most popular person of interest?

My guess is no -- there are a lot of other folks behind the scenes who help on the bball side from what I understand. Most want to stay quiet (for good reasons -- look at the Lallys).

 

[Frozen]

Just heard we are getting a nice little NIL boost for basketball. All I can share at this time.

You’re welcome. It’s the least I could do.

 

[sufan59]

You’re welcome. It’s the least I could do.

Frozen is unfrozen for the moment. Thank you!

 

[Cuse1055]

Is it coming from the board most popular person of interest?

Can’t give details but it’s a nice little boost for sure.

 

[NCo’range]

GMAC it is then.
Thanks boys and girls, it's been fun!
Can't wait until fb starts up.

 

[Cuseball]

Can’t give details but it’s a nice little boost for sure.

How did you know that I just donated $44?

 

[jdubs30]

Gmac/Doty to cuse.

Doty needs to be our 3rd option if we want to be good next year

 

[cusefan88]

Get Hodgson back to the table!

 

[Franz69]

Couldn't the new NIL boost be used to re-engage with Hodgson?

 

[UpstateSM]

Doty needs to be our 3rd option if we want to be good next year

He's like the 6th or 7th man at best on an at large team. I'm not sure he's anything more than a role player in the A10, forget the ACC. MAAC is the perfect level for him.

 

[nyucuse]

Get Hodgson back to the table!

If Hodgson thinks Providence is his comfort zone and max level, I want bigger! Like May's attitude toward Michigan

 

[sufan59]

Get Hodgson back to the table!

FWIW, a real shark takes the Syracuse job if given the opportunity to have it. Sharks see and chase the ceiling they don't worry about the floor.

 

[xc84]

I am losing interest as a result of team talent level being so tied to $$

It is “college” sports but the college part has been kicked to the curb. A player solely chooses based on money. Getting a degree is secondary.

I know that’s probably not the majority opinion. I still have season tickets but wonder why sometimes. I never questioned it before the pay to play system.

 

[AZOrange]

I don’t think NIL has ever come up at the BoT. From what I understand trustees know very little about how this all works unless they’re personally involved and I don’t think any are. That's part of the problem. This should have been a university focus in terms of finding businesses (or high net worth individuals with businesses) to fund a collective. We haven’t dedicated resources or attention to it. It was all “we have a small fundraising team and in addition to raising money for the general AD funds, we now need them to do it for NiL too.” And those same people are usually fighting with the regular fundraisers at SU for the same donor pool.

And that’s before you consider now that every deal that goes in the clearinghouse needs a business tied to it and it has to be commercially viable. So a company has to be giving money contractually to the collective and receiving a benefit from the endorsements / marketing deals with the players in the collective.

I have many ideas and ways this could be fixed. But alas I’m sure my ideas go in a “comment box” tied to a trash can.

A new young AD who can get buy in from multiple departments and change internal infrastructure is the only way we fix some of this stuff. And the Chancellor and BoT need to make sure he has the power to fix what’s broken.

Sounds like Dukes secret society has figured it out with 3 guys and no pub. How do they do it?