Coach Search Options after Autry

[RF2044]

I respect you man, but this is just a lazy take. Best offensive efficiency in the MAAC. People keep posting these numbers with no context. Look at the peer schools and conferences.

Nobody has given an answer to this question: Where should Siena be ranked given the to conference level? Crazy to expect Siena to get the type of players that go to bigger programs. So why should their rating be that much higher than peer programs?

Plus, this context tells me more about GMac:
2024 Siena: 358th rated offense, 326th rated defense
2025 Siena: 246th offense, 245th defense
2026 Siena: 193rd offense, 162nd defense

So let’s add some context to these numbers.

It isn't lazy, it is a quantitative ranking system. Net result: a forced ranking of all 365 men's D1 programs.

Siena plays primarily MAAC opponents, so their performance and rankings reflect that.

KenPom isn't just slated to the P4.

 

[rrlbees]

This account has zero idea.

he's all over the place. last night he blamed the "old man" but in the same thread showed a pic of melo and blamed him. then he said there is a 3 man search committee but only 1 is an employee. who are the 2 non employees? melo and ????. 2 or 3 days ago he said it was skinn, until it was gmac. now hes on the skinn or holloway or gmac or maybe someone else train. he knows chit.

 

[TrickySU]

Those numbers also reflect the players. Do we have Gerry's ratings relative to the MAAC? Those would be more telling.

Exactly!!! The amount of people that don’t understand this is mind blowing to me.

I mean according to those ratings with no context, Adrian Autry is a better coach than Gerry.

2025 Syracuse Offensive Rating: 106th
2025 Saint Louis Offensive Rating: 132nd

So Adrian Autry was a better coach than Josh Schertz in 2025 by that logic.

People need to have some common sense.

 

[JOC44]

Yeah, I want no part of Shaheen Holloway coming here.

Does Taurean Thompson's mom come as part of the package?

 

[Owens guy]

Everybody was mad we didn't do a real search last time. Now everybody's mad we're doing a real search this time.

I don’t think anyone is mad Syracuse is doing a real search. We are just impatient. A real search takes time. Contracts take time.

Most of the coaches we want to talk to are now out of the tournament so we will have a new coach relatively soon.

 

[Scooch]

A bottom of the pack BE school who made a brutal hire, and they better get serious and get it right now or else they will be in the cellar of that conference for quite awhile.

Right. So Hodgson went there because, it appears, they have a good player compensation budget. Apparently it had nothing to do with the image PC has as a BE also ran or years of program dysfunction.

Maybe some vague notion of "public image" isn't so important after all.

 

[TrickySU]

It isn't lazy, it is a quantitative ranking system.

Siena plays primarily MAAC opponents, so their performance and rankings reflect that. Net result: a forced ranking of all 365 men's D1 programs.

KenPom isn't just slated to the P4.

Bigger programs get better players and therefore play better.

What’s so hard to understand about that?

So Siena should be a Top 100 team just because?

No coach would’ve had Siena in the Top 100 this year.

 

[Orangezoo]

Ok- here it is.

The historical family based and obsessively pro change bias is just dumb.

You really have two winning scenarios here and neither is a guarantee but the hand wringing is dumb. We need a decision soon and it’s really not complicated.

Option 1- You get the necessary offer and NIL support for Schertz or equivalent outsider who has taken their squad to the tournament

Option 2- You bring in GMac with the bigger NIL commitment.

Both of these work fine because you have a competent coach and you have the resources to get to work with handling the existing roster, the staff and the portal. Then the more difficult task of installing the new system and culture.

Whichever option can come together the fastest in terms of everyone lining up so that we can get immediate success is the right one and that is more about which option has everyone with a vested interest running in the same direction so we can add to that list of people not have to spend 6 months with more infighting and possible distractions.

There isn’t going to be a honeymoon period here in terms of winning no matter what anyone says and I’m gonna go against myself even saying that before. We have to win and make the tournament and boost the brand and relevance in year 1. There is no competency issues with either option here, only really nitpicks and the need for a staff that accommodates appropriately.

End of story on this- if everyone lines up for option 1 and it’s off to the races then we get a A plus. If it’s option 2 it’s a B Plus/A-. We have good competent options we just need the alignment of the money and the power players to the best we can. Neither option works if we don’t have all that.

Also - option 3 is any selection without enough $$$ and unified support. That’s a D minus or worse

 

[RF2044]

Bigger programs get better players and therefore play better.

What’s so hard to understand about that?

So Siena should be a Top 100 team just because?

No coach would’ve had Siena in the Top 100 this year.

And teams that don't play as tough of competition can play "better" in the quantitative criteria that factor into KenPom because they are right-sized to their opponents.

Do you understand that?

 

[qdawgg]

You think any other coach can get their guys to play hard in the biggest game of their career?? Well they can’t only Gerry Mcnamara can do that.

When I interview people and one of the things they say is “I’m a hard worker”. I always want to say, “yeah, no crap, so is everyone else who’s interviewing”.

 

[tptcuse]

Does Taurean Thompson's mom come as part of the package?

She hot?

 

[Cusefan0307]

About 7 pages during the Syracuse half marathon. Nice work.

 

[tptcuse]

And teams that don't play as tough of competition can play "better" in the quantitative criteria that factor into KenPom because they are right-sized to their opponents.

Do you understand that?

What are Siena's numbers compared to the rest of the MAAC? I don't know how to look that up but I'll try.

 

[Melancer46]

2026 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings

Not sure where you’re finding that.

Syracuse ranked 87th in offense and 93rd on defense on Ken Pom.

Points scored and allowed per 100 possessions, we ranked outside the top 200 in both.

 

[Shawn91111]

So is Hopkins coming back or...?

 

[tptcuse]

Apologies to bnoro for the "AI slop":

For the 2025-26 season, Siena's offensive efficiency is middle-of-the-pack within the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference (MAAC). While the team has seen significant overall success under head coach Gerry McNamara—including a 23–12 record and an NCAA Tournament appearance—their strength lies primarily in their defense rather than high-powered offensive metrics. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Offensive Efficiency Metrics (2025-26 Season)​

As of March 2026, Siena's efficiency numbers compared to the rest of the MAAC and the nation are as follows:

• KenPom Adjusted Offensive Efficiency: Siena holds a rating of 107.1. This places them well behind conference leaders like Quinnipiac and Fairfield but significantly ahead of the bottom-tier MAAC teams.
• Offensive Rating (Points per 100 Possessions): Their raw offensive rating is approximately 109.3 to 112.1, ranking them 184th nationally.
• Scoring Offense: Siena averages 70.5 points per game, which ranks 7th in the MAAC.
• Shooting Efficiency: The team has a shooting efficiency of 1.098, ranking 178th nationally. Their field goal percentage of 45.7% is roughly average for the conference. [1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12]

MAAC Comparison​

Siena's offensive output is lower than several conference rivals who prioritize a faster pace or higher volume scoring:

Fairfield	76.0 (1st)	Led the MAAC in scoring but ranked 314th in defense.
Quinnipiac	75.3 (3rd)	Voted preseason favorites due to offensive returning production.
Siena	70.5 (7th)	Relies on Gavin Doty (17.9 PPG) and Justice Shoats (4.4 APG).
Marist	69.7 (8th)	Known for a slower, more deliberate offensive style.

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Key Offensive Leaders​

The bulk of Siena's offensive efficiency is driven by a few key players:

• Gavin Doty: Leads the team with 17.9 points per game and shot a program-record 9-for-9 in a single game this season.
• Justice Shoats: The primary facilitator, leading the team in assists (4.4 per game) and ranking second in scoring. [2, 3, 13]

While Siena's offense is efficient enough to win games, their Scoring Defense (ranked 2nd in the MAAC and 15th nationally) is the metric that truly separates them from their conference peers. [1, 2]

 

[richmondcuse03]

What are Siena's numbers compared to the rest of the MAAC? I don't know how to look that up but I'll try.

Not directed at you but some of the metrics posted on here seem insane and just made up.

Use this site: Verifying Browser...

You can look up teams and even coaches historically by year. It’s clear the schertz and hodgson teams were miles ahead of others.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Ok- here it is.

The historical family based and obsessively pro change bias is just dumb.

You really have two winning scenarios here and neither is a guarantee but the hand wringing is dumb. We need a decision soon and it’s really not complicated.

Option 1- You get the necessary offer and NIL support for Schertz or equivalent outsider who has taken their squad to the tournament

Option 2- You bring in GMac with the bigger NIL commitment.

Both of these work fine because you have a competent coach and you have the resources to get to work with handling the existing roster, the staff and the portal. Then the more difficult task of installing the new system and culture.

Whichever option can come together the fastest in terms of everyone lining up so that we can get immediate success is the right one and that is more about which option has everyone with a vested interest running in the same direction so we can add to that list of people not have to spend 6 months with more infighting and possible distractions.

There isn’t going to be a honeymoon period here in terms of winning no matter what anyone says and I’m gonna go against myself even saying that before. We have to win and make the tournament and boost the brand and relevance in year 1. There is no competency issues with either option here, only really nitpicks and the need for a staff that accommodates appropriately.

End of story on this- if everyone lines up for option 1 and it’s off to the races then we get a A plus. If it’s option 2 it’s a B Plus/A-. We have good competent options we just need the alignment of the money and the power players to the best we can. Neither option works if we don’t have all that.

Mic Drop!

Also another win we won’t have to watch insane substitutions any mire. Schertz subs well and Gmac goes Ironman

 

[CuseBlood44]

So according to Samurai if he’s to be believed it’s between Gmac, Skinn, Holloway and Schertz (assuming he’s one of the mystery candidates) and possibly one other

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Get skinn off this list. In January sure. The way his team collapsed matters

 

[Cusefan0307]

My two personal interactions with JB were pleasant / enjoyable but man he can be insufferable.

That generation is having serious issues giving up power. No different than the corpses we have in elected office these days.

 

[TrickySU]

And teams that don't play as tough of competition can play "better" in the quantitative criteria that factor into KenPom because they are right-sized to their opponents.

Do you understand that?

How good your conference is matters. Miami (OH) went undefeated this year and barely cracked the top 100. UNDEFEATED in the MAC barely gets Top 100.

Siena would’ve had to beat conference opponents by 20 each game to maybe crack the Top 100.

But sure, let’s compare ratings for non-peer schools.

Why is that hard to understand? It’s unreasonable and nearly impossible to get a school like Siena that high. The talent level doesn’t warrant a high rating. That’s the entire point.

 

[Cusefan78]

he's all over the place. last night he blamed the "old man" but in the same thread showed a pic of melo and blamed him. then he said there is a 3 man search committee but only 1 is an employee. who are the 2 non employees? melo and ????. 2 or 3 days ago he said it was skinn, until it was gmac. now hes on the skinn or holloway or gmac or maybe someone else train. he knows chit.

I don’t think he realizes jab is still on the payroll

 

[CuseBlood44]

Everybody was mad we didn't do a real search last time. Now everybody's mad we're doing a real search this time.

I just need this to end ASAP. As much as I’d love this thread to hit 1k pages, I can’t go into another work week feeling glued to it lol. Hopefully posters end up being right about today being fun

 

[TrickySU]

Points scored and allowed per 100 possessions, we ranked outside the top 200 in both.

So now we’re moving the goalposts? Efficiency numbers are widely regarded as a better metric. But again, that’s all besides the point.

 

[McNabb2Brominski]

ADBB to JB after he tells him that Jason Hart should be plan B if things fall through with GMAC