Coach Search Options after Autry

[Oakland]

As someone who moved out of Boston and back to the Albany suburbs, not everyone wants the big city lifestyle. I get the sense Gerry & family are happy here and that is why they left Syracuse for a similar environment (living wise)

Lots of great places to live - Boston and upstate NY are just two of them.

 

[atlanticuse]

Lots of great places to live - Boston and upstate NY are just two of them.

Are we still comparing Syracuse, Albany, and Boston for all coaches in the search, or just Gerry, who is an apple falling from the Boeheim tree?

And I side with the “Boston is far superior if you have money” crowd. Syracuse is a depressed, post-manufacturing city … until Micron comes online.

Although having been to North Dakota 10x the past year, don’t get your hopes up….

 

[elimunelson]

Boston’s good for the Uber wealthy. It is unaffordable for even upper middle class people. I have friends and colleagues making in the 200’s that can’t afford to live anywhere close to where they work so hello to 3 hours of commuting a day.

Gerry will be making 2mm plus and will receive whatever other fringe benefits (Charles River/brae burn membership etc)

It’s expensive because it’s got incredible schools hospitals and resources. It’s not pricy in a vacuum

 

[qdawgg]

Boston’s good for the Uber wealthy. It is unaffordable for even upper middle class people. I have friends and colleagues making in the 200’s that can’t afford to live anywhere close to where they work so hello to 3 hours of commuting a day.

I live in a rural area and driving my daughter 35-60 mins to soccer multiple times a week is taxing at times. And I hope it doesn’t kill her desire to keep playing since she’s not even in middle school. But being able to afford a nice car, house, my commute is literally 2 blocks away and we don’t make a crazy amount of money. I can’t imagine doing what your friends and a lot of people do in order to pay the bills.

 

[RedtheGOB]

So the smile still suggests some knowledge shared. A reference to smoke is interesting. Perhaps Schertz is in play? Just fishing, don't mind me.

The guy from the Athletic on the radio said Schertz was in play just like pretty much every other top coach on the market. With the asterisk that the biggest thing that matters was what type of resources we give him to win.

Sounds like everything is on the table and everyone will at least pick up the phone for us, which is good to hear. Tells me that there is still some juice in CNY for hoops and alot different than football when we knew there were just some coaches that would not answer the phone.

Now we all just wait to see if we sweeten the deal enough to get the most sought after coach or go with a coach that is hungriest or one that has a vision more aligned to the new Chancellor and AD. After reading this thread yesterday people are all over the place..

 

[rrlbees]

The guy from the Athletic on the radio said Schertz was in play just like pretty much every other top coach on the market. With the asterisk that the biggest thing that matters was what type of resources we give him to win.

You don’t say.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Maybe the smoke is Syracuse isn’t only looking at up and coming coaches from small conferences but also focusing on coaches who have experienced success at a big school/in the tournament?

The BoT knows that this is a critical hire. SU is extremely serious about getting this right and will be much more aggressive than what a lot of posters here expect. Hodgson is a viable candidate, but when the dust settles I think it will be someone else. Much of the emphasis in this thread has been on SU's weaknesses, but they also have several strengths to leverage as well.

If you want to see a bidding war between SU and Ohio State or LSU, you're going to be disappointed... but there are a lot more great candidates than there are B1G and $EC openings.

 

[RedtheGOB]

You don’t say.

Hah, I know it's obvious to some but have you read these threads lately.

 

[rrlbees]

Hah, I know it's obvious to some but have you read these threads lately.

yep

 

[Cuse1055]

The BoT knows that this is a critical hire. SU is extremely serious about getting this right and will be much more aggressive than what a lot of posters here expect. Hodgson is a viable candidate, but when the dust settles I think it will be someone else. Much of the emphasis in this thread has been on SU's weaknesses, but they also have several strengths to leverage as well.

If you want to see a bidding war between SU and Ohio State or LSU, you're going to be disappointed... but there are a lot more great candidates than there are B1G and $EC openings.

So we are definitely looking to hire outside the family/Boeheim Tree you’re hearing?

 

[Cappy3]

That is fine. Not what I would call top tier but for them, great. I just asked what top tier talent he brought in as a Head coach. We have two 5 star players on this team. So...

Well, to be fair, if you’re gonna credit GMac’s recruiting success with SU (and you have to, since he hasn’t brought any 4 or 5 stars to Siena) you kinda have to credit Hodgson with some of Bamas. You know, the old goose meet gander.

 

[dasher]

Well, to be fair, if you’re gonna credit GMac’s recruiting success with SU (and you have to, since he hasn’t brought any 4 or 5 stars to Siena) you kinda have to credit Hodgson with some of Bamas. You know, the old goose meet gander.

I don't know where I gave credit to Gery's recruiting at Syracuse or Siena. I would never rate Gerry as a top tier recruiter. I am not in favor of Gerry getting this job at this time.

 

[PauliePeppas]

I still think Schertz is very much in play

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

So we are definitely looking to hire outside the family/Boeheim Tree you’re hearing?

I'm not given (and don't ask for) specifics; I'm not cool enough for that, and at this point things probably shift rapidly. I just got a hint at the overall mindset. Best candidate... period. No disrespect to any alumni, but at this time I think that kind of answers itself unless something really unexpected happens.

SU knows that they are losing money and prestige bigly and that course-correcting is critical beyond just athletics.

 

[Cuse1055]

I'm not given (and don't ask for) specifics; I'm not cool enough for that, and at this point things probably shift rapidly. I just got a hint at the overall mindset. Best candidate... period. No disrespect to any alumni, but at this time I think that kind of answers itself unless something really unexpected happens.

SU knows that they are losing money and prestige bigly and that course-correcting is critical beyond just athletics.

Great to hear all of these things, especially that the university understands how important hiring the best candidate is and knows how much money they’re losing if a change isn’t made.

 

[orangepassion]

Hodgson reminds me more of Fran Brown than anyone else and that’s a good thing

Had a tough childhood, started from the bottom, worked hard for everything he got, has recruiting chops, and truly wants the job.

Perfect recipe to shake things up

With a huge difference that Hodgson has HC experience and HC success

 

[PhatOrange]

His Instagram profile picture is literally he and his boys on a dock holding a nice large mouth bass lol, the pretentiousness of some people

Bnoro would laugh but Gerry would prefer the Salmon River in his backyard over being a block from the train stop in Newton. All while making the same amount of money

 

[orangepassion]

You know you've been thinking too much about the upcoming SU coaching search when autocorrect on your cell automatically switches to Schertz when writing the word scheduled. Just happened to me.

 

[PhatOrange]

Are we still comparing Syracuse, Albany, and Boston for all coaches in the search, or just Gerry, who is an apple falling from the Boeheim tree?

And I side with the “Boston is far superior if you have money” crowd. Syracuse is a depressed, post-manufacturing city … until Micron comes online.

Although having been to North Dakota 10x the past year, don’t get your hopes up….

Or you could go to Malta, NY outside of Saratoga Springs, and get your hopes up when you see how that chip plant has been thriving and what a boon to the local economy it's been.

 

[sufan59]

I still think Schertz is very much in play

Which is great, but I'll be honest, it's a very very close call to me between Hodgson and Schertz. Like even if Schertz is a realistic get, Hodgson may actually end up being the better option anyway for Syracuse.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Or you could go to Malta, NY outside of Saratoga Springs, see how that chip plant has been thriving and what a boon to the local economy it's been; and get your hopes up

Hah. I got this reference. Fair point. But also to be fair theyre pretty upfront saying it takes decades.

Gotta start somewhere. Jobs are jobs even if it’s 2030-2035. I doubt the salt potato market is going to rebound in CNY anytime soon.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Great to hear all of these things, especially that the university understands how important hiring the best candidate and knows how much money they’re losing if a change isn’t made.

That's why I'm optimistic that they'll get the best HC that's willing to sign on, and I feel like there are some pretty good ones that would if offered.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Gerry will be making 2mm plus and will receive whatever other fringe benefits (Charles River/brae burn membership etc)

It’s expensive because it’s got incredible schools hospitals and resources. It’s not pricy in a vacuum

I travel there at least 6 times a year for work and to visit friends. It’s a great place to visit. So is New York. If I lived in either location I’d probably be scraping by. Where I live in NY I am pretty well off in a nice house and a great school district too. I have the same size house where I live as the US president of my company has in suburban Boston and she probably makes 2-3 times what I make. I am not saying housing is everything, but that’s the comparison between the two places.

 

[5OutFred]

If you want to see a bidding war between SU and Ohio State or LSU, you're going to be disappointed... but there are a lot more great candidates than there are B1G and $EC openings.

To your second point, and I'm not asking for specifics, but generally speaking...who? The reason Schertz, Skinn, Hodgson are the most prominent candidates as mid-major coaches is that there aren't high-major coaches that would look at Cuse seriously.

I would be very shocked if we pulled a sitting high-major coach. I'm sure the BoT wants a high-profile, best candidate possible, but consider me skeptical based on the info out there on candidates so far.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

To your second point, and I'm not asking for specifics, but generally speaking...who? The reason Schertz, Skinn, Hodgson are the most prominent candidates as mid-major coaches is that there aren't high-major coaches that would look at Cuse seriously.

I would be very shocked if we pulled a sitting high-major coach. I'm sure the BoT wants a high-profile, best candidate possible, but consider me skeptical based on the info out there on candidates so far.

Me too; If you mean P5, I don't think anyone has suggested that.

Established, winning, experienced HC with recruiting ties at a mid-major/G6 school that could scale rapidly at SU is my expectation.