Coach Search Options after Autry

[EnviroSciGuy]

Grab Holloway and backhand Seton Hall while we're at it.

 

[Starman]

Josh Pastner is available

 

[Cusefan0307]

Why do you think he’s still at Colgate?

Recruiting and NIL would be a concern with him. Basketball acumen is not.

 

[chuck]

Who should JW realistically look at?

Probably looking hard at mid major HCs is my guess. Too risky to take an assistant and too cheap to lure away a big name coach.

Would love Coach Patino. Proven winner with ties and Would totally change the atmosphere surrounding the basketball team post JB.

 

[Sherman20]

There is not many jobs that would get Brad Stevens out of the GM role, but I would think this would be one of them.

This has to be satire. Jncuse, you’re way too smart to even suggest that absurdity.

 

[Sherman20]

Some realistic options

Chris Mack
Tony Skinn
Bryan Hodgson
Takayo Siddle
Josh Schertz
Shaheen Holloway
Richard Pitino
Speedy Claxton
Preston Spradlin
Alan Huss

Josh Schertz is a no brainer hire. He’s won at every level, is now winning at St Louis, has Northeast ties, and has a great offensive system. He’s gonna be the most sought-after mid-major coaching name this spring, imo. I think he’s this year’s Ben McCollum, who’s already doing a great job of turning around Iowa in year 1. I see him as the next McCollum/Pat Kelsey/Dusty May/Danny Hurley/Todd Golden type — a guy who’s proved himself at the mid major level and then jumps to the high majors and has immediate success.

 

[Sherman20]

Looking at top 15 programs in KenPom and recent hires within past 10 years (in one case 11 years) There is no evidence that you need to take coaches from other P5 programs.

Of the 11 coaches
- 7 were from mid majors (May, Otzelberger, Hurley, Kelsey, Byington, Oats, Golden)
- Only 1 coach was stolen from a fellow P5 program (Underwood)
- 1 was an NCAA assistant coach (Lloyd)
- 1 was an NBA assistant coach (Young)
- 1 was an NCAA outcast (Sampson)

(Note at #16-#20 you do get coaches with P5 success in Pitino, Barnes, Hoiberg) - but they all had various issues at the time of hire.
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#1. Michigan - in a downturn, brought in Dusty May from Florida Atlantic who had recently made the final 4.

#2. Iowa St - in a downturn, brought in TJ Otzelberger, who had 2 poor years at UNLV -- right before that had been great at South Dakota St.

#5. Arizona - in a bit of a downtrun, brought in Tommy Lloyd assistant coach from Gonzaga.

#7. UConn - in a mess, brought in Danny Hurley from Rhode Island

#8, Houston - totally irrelevant, brought in Kelvin Sampson, NCAA pariah, who had not coached for 7 years

#9. BYU - middling, brought in Kevin Young assitant coach from the Phoenix Suns.

#10. Louisville, in a mess, brought in Pat Kelsey from College of Charleston

#11. Vanderbilt, middling, brought in Marc Byington from James Madison

#13. Florida middling, brought in Todd Golden from San Francisco

#14. Illinois middling, brought in Brad Underwood who had went 9-9 at Oklahoma St, after success at Steve Austin U.

#15. Alabama middling, brought in Nate Oats from Buffalo

Excluding the following 4 schools from the above.
#1) Duke a blue blood that can operate differently,
#2) Gonzaga, Purdue, Michigan St they have had same head coach forever.

Thanks for this post. This will help all the folks who read this board understand that we won’t be hiring a Rick Pitino or Jay Wright or other ridiculous fantasy coach, lol. Instead, we’ll likely be hiring a hot coach from the mid major ranks, and that the candidiate can absolute work out if they’re a good fit and proven commodity. Read my post above for the guy who I think fits the bill perfectly.

 

[Sherman20]

Tony Skinn will be the hottest coaching candidate this offseason, especially if he makes the NCAAT. Has George Mason at 10-1 with their only loss to VaTech by 9 points. Currently 55 in NET and 68 in KenPom. 20+ win seasons in his first two years at GMU.

He should be at the top of our list.

I like Skinn. But I think Josh Schertz has a much longer, proven track record of winning at multiple schools at different levels of college basketball. He turned D2 Lincoln Memorial into a consistent power and made a D2 national title game and two other Final Fours as the head coach. Then he quickly turned around lowly Indiana State, a program that hadn’t been good since Larry Bird was walking the campus. They were 32-7 (17-3) in his third season there, won the Missouri Valley regular season title, and finished 28th in KenPom. Now he’s moved onto Saint Louis in the A-10 and has them in the KenPom top 40 in just his second season. He coaches great offense and has an inspiring personal story of overcoming adversity. Plus he’s from Brooklyn.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

I like Skinn by far the most. People are doing a good job convincing me St Louis guy can coach.
I wonder if Jason Hart and a NIL push would work?
Many interesting options and I am sure at least two people will interview who the board never even considers.

 

[Frozen]

Mick Cronin. Give him a bag.

 

[Frozen]

Josh Pastner is available

As available as any other coach who is under contract to another school.

 

[djorange1989]

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I like Skinn. But I think Josh Schertz has a much longer, proven track record of winning at multiple schools at different levels of college basketball. He turned D2 Lincoln Memorial into a consistent power and made a D2 national title game and two other Final Fours as the head coach. Then he quickly turned around lowly Indiana State, a program that hadn’t been good since Larry Bird was walking the campus. They were 32-7 (17-3) in his third season there, won the Missouri Valley regular season title, and finished 28th in KenPom. Now he’s moved onto Saint Louis in the A-10 and has them in the KenPom top 40 in just his second season. He coaches great offense and has an inspiring personal story of overcoming adversity. Plus he’s from Brooklyn.

You nailed it. Now hopefully JW can bring him over here. Our program needs a complete overhaul, he can do that and turn us around pretty quickly.

 

[5OutFred]

As mentioned above, Schertz at SLU would be a homerun - have been banging this drum. Though it's important to keep in mind, after accepting SLU, Louisville came calling, and he turned them down.

SLU have more resources/$ than people think, it's a good job in a good league. And, being so early in his deal, he will have a buyout.

He's the guy - but to level set, it's not as simple as, "he'd be dumb to turn us down."

 

[Sbucketball]

Alright let's get this thread rolling. Who do we think JW is in contact with?

Based on a couple things, I think it's safe to say JW has been in touch with Bryan Hodgson.

 

[5OutFred]

Alright let's get this thread rolling. Who do we think JW is in contact with?

Based on a couple things, I think it's safe to say JW has been in touch with Bryan Hodgson.

What outside of the Lally connection leads you to believe this?

 

[sufan59]

As mentioned above, Schertz at SLU would be a homerun - have been banging this drum. Though it's important to keep in mind, after accepting SLU, Louisville came calling, and he turned them down.

SLU have more resources/$ than people think, it's a good job in a good league. And, being so early in his deal, he will have a buyout.

He's the guy - but to level set, it's not as simple as, "he'd be dumb to turn us down."

If you believe the guy can make Syracuse a winner and consistent top 25 program again. The buyout money would be paid off from most of these contracts in the revenue gained from likely 2 or 3 highly attended 25,000 legit attended dome games. It's nauseating to think about how much money is being missed out on from the program woes in the last few years. I had hope the Tennessee game was turning the corner only to lose all of that momentum on Saturday.

 

[orangepassion]

I like Skinn by far the most. People are doing a good job convincing me St Louis guy can coach.
I wonder if Jason Hart and a NIL push would work?
Many interesting options and I am sure at least two people will interview who the board never even considers.

I have no Skinn in the game, but agree w/ Sherm about Scherz longer track record and winning at multiple places.

 

[Sbucketball]

What outside of the Lally connection leads you to believe this?

I should've phrased my post differently -- I'm guessing. But:

He knows Lally, he's from western NY, grew up a cuse fan, coached cuse summer camps, and if there's any truth to his squabble on the court where he mentioned Red won't be there that indicates a strong possibility he's had some inside convos on the topic.

If JW is doing his job properly, he's calling lots of people. Can't imagine he wouldn't at least check this one out given all that.

 

[OburgOrange]

Alright let's get this thread rolling. Who do we think JW is in contact with?

Based on a couple things, I think it's safe to say JW has been in touch with Bryan Hodgson.

Did he run it by JB first?

 

[CuseTG2003]

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I like Skinn. But I think Josh Schertz has a much longer, proven track record of winning at multiple schools at different levels of college basketball. He turned D2 Lincoln Memorial into a consistent power and made a D2 national title game and two other Final Fours as the head coach. Then he quickly turned around lowly Indiana State, a program that hadn’t been good since Larry Bird was walking the campus. They were 32-7 (17-3) in his third season there, won the Missouri Valley regular season title, and finished 28th in KenPom. Now he’s moved onto Saint Louis in the A-10 and has them in the KenPom top 40 in just his second season. He coaches great offense and has an inspiring personal story of overcoming adversity. Plus he’s from Brooklyn.

I'm sold. Skinn would great too.

Not happening because he's unproven, but I have a hunch Luke Murray is gonna be a helluva HC somewhere within 5 years. Great offensive mind.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

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I like Skinn. But I think Josh Schertz has a much longer, proven track record of winning at multiple schools at different levels of college basketball. He turned D2 Lincoln Memorial into a consistent power and made a D2 national title game and two other Final Fours as the head coach. Then he quickly turned around lowly Indiana State, a program that hadn’t been good since Larry Bird was walking the campus. They were 32-7 (17-3) in his third season there, won the Missouri Valley regular season title, and finished 28th in KenPom. Now he’s moved onto Saint Louis in the A-10 and has them in the KenPom top 40 in just his second season. He coaches great offense and has an inspiring personal story of overcoming adversity. Plus he’s from Brooklyn.

Seems like a great option

 

[OrlandoCuse]

This entire thing got a lot easier. George Mason plays St Louis on March 7th. Winner gets the Syracuse job.

 

[phil77]

I am still interested in Chris Mack as well. He did well last year at Charleston I think they scored like 90+ on Bama in the tournament and almost pulled off the upset. If I remember correctly, Charleston has struggled early on this season, so I will be interested in seeing how their league play goes and if they/he replicate the success of last year at Charleston. He has proven he can win at the P4 level at Louisville, he has a record of 63-36. and was 215-97 at Xavier.

I do understand the appeal of going mid-major, unproven at this level type guy and hope we hit it big like other programs have done. This will probably be the road Syracuse will take.

 

[orangepassion]

This entire thing got a lot easier. George Mason plays St Louis on March 7th. Winner gets the Syracuse job.

Wildhack can go to the game to scout in-person

 

[FrancoPizza]

He knows Lally, he's from western NY, grew up a cuse fan, coached cuse summer camps

That tells us nothing about his ability to coach and excite the NIL honeypots.