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I am still interested in Chris Mack as well. He did well last year at Charleston I think they scored like 90+ on Bama in the tournament and almost pulled off the upset. If I remember correctly, Charleston has struggled early on this season, so I will be interested in seeing how their league play goes and if they/he replicate the success of last year at Charleston. He has proven he can win at the P4 level at Louisville, he has a record of 63-36. and was 215-97 at Xavier.

I do understand the appeal of going mid-major, unproven at this level type guy and hope we hit it big like other programs have done. This will probably be the road Syracuse will take.
He got screwed at Louisville and thrown under the bus. That said, he DID make some poor decisions there and I can't help but think that he wouldn't be the right guy for the SU job. Louisville is its own nightmare of competing interests, but so is SU. Also, I'd prefer someone a bit younger so we're not going through this situation again in 5-10 years.
 
That tells us nothing about his ability to coach and excite the NIL honeypots.
I'm not saying he's the right guy for the job. Just that there's enough connection there that JW is probably kicking the tires. Hopefully he's doing that with dozens of prospects, and hopefully we get the best coach possible.
 
Murray is an interesting candidate. He has an offensive mind but no actual head coaching experience. His offense at UCONN is big time, but we don’t have their talent. Would be a huge gamble.
The talent part is just not true of why we can’t do off ball movement and screens and they can, Hofstra was doing it all night. It is slightly deeper than our roster. UConn roster would produce offensively like ours if it wasn’t for there constant off ball movement and screens. They implement and practice it over and over again. They have an identity offensively.
 
Murray is an interesting candidate. He has an offensive mind but no actual head coaching experience. His offense at UCONN is big time, but we don’t have their talent. Would be a huge gamble.
If it's true that he's the mastermind behind uconn's offense, this is a good gamble to make. He could end up being elite. A power program will take him soon, probably this Spring.
 
Murray is an interesting candidate. He has an offensive mind but no actual head coaching experience. His offense at UCONN is big time, but we don’t have their talent. Would be a huge gamble.
Because of the lack of HC experience, he's more of a boom or bust candidate. Schertz screams Bob Chesney to me.
 
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The talent part is just not true. It is slightly deeper than our roster. UConn roster would produce offensively like ours if it wasn’t for there constant off ball movement and screens.
If you really compare players, their front line puts ours to shame. All their guards can attack the rim and shoot. They have bigs on the bench better than ours. Five star Mullins doesn’t even start. Our talent is tons better than the past few years, but to say it’s equivalent to UCONN, I would really have to question that.
 
If you really compare players, their front line puts ours to shame. All their guards can attack the rim and shoot. They have bigs on the bench better than ours. Five star Mullins doesn’t even start. Our talent is tons better than the past few years, but to say it’s equivalent to UCONN, I would really have to question that.
It’s not equivalent to UConn, but more so to say we should be a lot closer to where they are as a team this season. The main difference is there backup in Reibe is much better than our backup center in Souare offensively. Coaching is where they really outclass us and contributes to the thinking that they just have much better players. They have better players due to coaching.
 
As mentioned above, Schertz at SLU would be a homerun - have been banging this drum. Though it's important to keep in mind, after accepting SLU, Louisville came calling, and he turned them down.

SLU have more resources/$ than people think, it's a good job in a good league. And, being so early in his deal, he will have a buyout.

He's the guy - but to level set, it's not as simple as, "he'd be dumb to turn us down."
Interesting. I hadn’t heard that he turned down Louisville. That’s wild considering the amount of resources they have among their basketball boosters. Maybe he didn’t want to backtrack after having just taken the Saint Louis job. Here’s an Athletic story on Schertz from a couple of years ago (I wish I could share a gift article with the board, but they may allow a certain amount of free views). I’m gonna write a longer post on him at some point. Also, his name is simply pronounced “shirts” for those wondering. Lol.
 
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It’s not equivalent to UConn, but more so to say we should be a lot closer to where they are as a team this season. The main difference is there backup in Reibe is much better than our backup center in Souare offensively. Coaching is where they really outclass us and contributes to the thinking that they just have much better players. They have better players due to coaching.
I agree I would love to see our team with their offense. I think it would unlock a lot of possibilities. We can only dream what it might look like. I’m always shocked when a team has so much success doing something, other teams don’t try to replicate it. Football does it all the time.
 
I am still interested in Chris Mack as well. He did well last year at Charleston I think they scored like 90+ on Bama in the tournament and almost pulled off the upset. If I remember correctly, Charleston has struggled early on this season, so I will be interested in seeing how their league play goes and if they/he replicate the success of last year at Charleston. He has proven he can win at the P4 level at Louisville, he has a record of 63-36. and was 215-97 at Xavier.

I do understand the appeal of going mid-major, unproven at this level type guy and hope we hit it big like other programs have done. This will probably be the road Syracuse will take.
Mack has been on my radar as well and could be a contender. He has a real track record of winning at historic basketball schools. I just never liked his personality. He came across as a bit smarmy and kind of a meathead. He had Louisville as a national title contender in year 2 but then the tourney was canceled due to Covid, and then he flamed out after all the Dino Gaudio extortion drama.
 
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Murray is an interesting candidate. He has an offensive mind but no actual head coaching experience. His offense at UCONN is big time, but we don’t have their talent. Would be a huge gamble.
Yeah, I always liked the idea of Luke Murray. He’s the one who convinced Hurley and his top assistant Kimani Young to finally give more attention to the offensive side of the ball and adopt a modern basketball offense based on analytics, which took them to a whole other level (of course having great players helps!). Hurley has given Murray credit for it. But I’m nervous about hiring another career assistant, even if his upside could be big. On the other hand, his dad Bill Murray would be attending many Cuse games so that would be cool! That said, I feel Schertz has a great, established offensive system, and has the years of head coaching experience (and success) at different levels—even though he’s only 50.
 
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I would take a shot at a time tested proven coach, Greg McDermott has to be getting fed up with lack of NIl at Creighton, Thad Matta would be another one in that boat, both could have at least another 10+ years of coaching both have been super successful and both are at programs who fail to spend like the big programs.
I completely agree. Everyone will be saying we can only afford or attract a mid major coach but we shouldn't eliminate asking coaches at bigger schools if they have interest.

There are coaches that would come to Syracuse that may seem like a parallel career move but they may not be completely happy where they currently are coaching either due to NIL, facilities or even their schools pecking order in a conference (California schools stuck in the Big Ten).
 
I would take a shot at a time tested proven coach, Greg McDermott has to be getting fed up with lack of NIl at Creighton, Thad Matta would be another one in that boat, both could have at least another 10+ years of coaching both have been super successful and both are at programs who fail to spend like the big programs.
I was under the impression that Creighton had a rather good budget for NIL.
 
Mack has been on my radar as well and could be a contender. He has a real track record of winning at historic basketball schools. I just never liked his personality. He came across as a bit smarmy and kind of a meathead. He had Louisville as a national title contender in year 2 but then the tourney was canceled due to Covid, and then he flamed out after all the Dino Gaudio extortion drama.
Fun story I worked security at Loyola games when Dino Gaudio was the head coach. I was right behind the bench many times. Dude is a scumbag and a terrible coach.
Also where I met Digger Phelps and Dickie V. Phelps is rude and Dickie V is about the nicest person ever.
 
Be better than that. He isn't an imbecile. No need to call a fellow Orangeman names. No problem with wanting him gone but JFC, start with that kind of talk?
Sorry his coaching shows he’s a genius.
“Start with”?
This has been a wreck for 3 seasons.
 
I completely agree. Everyone will be saying we can only afford or attract a mid major coach but we shouldn't eliminate asking coaches at bigger schools if they have interest.

There are coaches that would come to Syracuse that may seem like a parallel career move but they may not be completely happy where they currently are coaching either due to NIL, facilities or even their schools pecking order in a conference (California schools stuck in the Big Ten).
I wouldn’t get hung up on the fallacy that we can’t hire a “mid major” coach and that we need to hire a big established name that everyone is familiar with. Read Jncuse’s post a page or two back to see who’s coaching many of the top 25 KenPom teams right now—former mid-major coaches like Hurley, Todd Golden, Dusty May, Pat Kelsey, Nate Oats, TJ Otzelberger, Ben McCollum, Darian Devries, Grant McCasland, Mark Byington, and on and on. And most of them were at the mid major level just a few years ago.

The point is to win games, not win the press conference.
 
The talent part is just not true of why we can’t do off ball movement and screens and they can, Hofstra was doing it all night. It is slightly deeper than our roster. UConn roster would produce offensively like ours if it wasn’t for there constant off ball movement and screens. They implement and practice it over and over again. They have an identity offensively.
If Luke Murray was SU’s coach this whole season, you wouldn’t be last in FTs in D1. What would SU’s record be if the team hit 70%.

Then add another 2 wins because it is Luke Murray coaching and not AA. Is Murray proven as a HC? No. Stil better than Autry.
Murray is an interesting candidate. He has an offensive mind but no actual head coaching experience. His offense at UCONN is big time, but we don’t have their talent. Would be a huge gamble.
 
Sorry his coaching shows he’s a genius.
“Start with”?
This has been a wreck for 3 seasons.
You can criticize his coaching all you want. But to call him a name that is different. I mean, would you have the stones to walk up to him and call him that? If the answer is no. Then you are a coward behind a keyboard.
 
You can criticize his coaching all you want. But to call him a name that is different. I mean, would you have the stones to walk up to him and call him that? If the answer is no. Then you are a coward behind a keyboard.
By that measure half of the content on this board is cowardly. And I agree.
 
Interesting. I hadn’t heard that he turned down Louisville. That’s wild considering the amount of resources they have among their basketball boosters. Maybe he didn’t want to backtrack after having just taken the Saint Louis job. Here’s an Athletic story on Schertz from a couple of years ago (I wish I could share a gift article with the board, but they may allow a certain amount of free views). I’m gonna write a longer post on him at some point. Also, his name is simply pronounced “shirts” for those wondering. Lol.
Never heard of this guy until this time yesterday but to me he's the blueprint of what we should be looking for if we go the mid-major head coach route. Very interesting name.
 
Never heard of this guy until this time yesterday but to me he's the blueprint of what we should be looking for if we go the mid-major head coach route. Very interesting name.
Yeah, I think it's German.
 

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