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Teddy19 said:
Have also lived in all three places. Agree that Capital Region and CNY might have specific draws for Gerry given family/community ties, but Boston with money is a totally different experience. Boston is a major city and Chestnut Hill is gorgeous, offers great schools, and easy access to all of New England and NY.
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Chestnut Hill is gorgeous? My son is a student at BC Law and Chestnut Hill/Newton is overly expensive, full of construction, and nowhere to park. They have a Wegmans, but it’s so small and overpriced. Give me Dewitt, Fayetteville or Manlius any day
 
Orangefizz said:
Chestnut Hill is gorgeous? My son is a student at BC Law and Chestnut Hill/Newton is overly expensive, full of construction, and nowhere to park. They have a Wegmans, but it’s so small and overpriced. Give me Dewitt, Fayetteville or Manlius any day
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Yeah why live in the burbs of one of the best cities in the country when you can live in the burbs of Syracuse NY?
 
SanDiegoCuse said:
I love that Bryan Hodgson looks like the head of security for a Colombian drug lord. Sign me up.
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This is an interesting game that I am curious about how it ends. This is the first game that I have seen their offensive players struggle, not the offense, but the actual players. They are missing a ton of shots in the paint, and free throws they usually make so it will be interesting to see the ending of the game.
 
dasher said:
I happen to think BH is the leader in the clubhouse right now. But Gerry is very much in contention. There is also believe it or not, a question whether Gerry would take the job.
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Agree on Hodgson. I think ultimately he gets the job because he wants it and understands what he's getting into. Having the support of Lally is a building block that perhaps others don't have.

The first question any candidate has about us, is our NIL budget. I don't think GMAC is convinced we have what it take$ to compete in the ACC consistently. He's not alone. It's a concern others have.

Anybody who thinks someone is going to take this job and worry about the NIL after is grossly out of touch with today's environment.

Let me short circuit those who think i'm blaming this year's results on NIL. I'm not. We have the players this year to compete. We had the NIL last off season to compete. Its coaching failure that we're not in the ncaa tourney discussion.

But the next guy might not have last year's NIL budget. He might not have Alex Kline to lean into. He's going to have a new AD (that likely will not have the support to move in a different direction at his immediate discretion though).

We have a challenge ahead of us.
 
Jake said:
Agree on Hodgson. I think ultimately he gets the job because he wants it and understands what he's getting into. Having the support of Lally is a building block that perhaps others don't have.

The first question any candidate has about us, is our NIL budget. I don't think GMAC is convinced we have what it take$ to compete in the ACC consistently. He's not alone. It's a concern others have.

Anybody who thinks someone is going to take this job and worry about the NIL after is grossly out of touch with today's environment.

Let me short circuit those who think i'm blaming this year's results on NIL. I'm not. We have the players this year to compete. We had the NIL last off season to compete. Its coaching failure that we're not in the ncaa tourney discussion.

But the next guy might not have last year's NIL budget. He might not have Alex Kline to lean into. He's going to have a new AD (that likely will not have the support to move in a different direction at his immediate discretion though).

We have a challenge ahead of us.
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All of this sounds like another reason why somehow having Autry back with a less NIL budget would be an absolute disaster.
 
Jake said:
The first question any candidate has about us, is our NIL budget. I don't think GMAC is convinced we have what it take$ to compete in the ACC consistently. He's not alone. It's a concern others have.

Anybody who thinks someone is going to take this job and worry about the NIL after is grossly out of touch with today's environment.
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we have several here who don't think it'll be a consideration at all for candidates. i said the same thing you have here, and several shot it down. its one of the first questions most candidates would ask for almost any hc job. it has to be.
 
Jake said:
Agree on Hodgson. I think ultimately he gets the job because he wants it and understands what he's getting into. Having the support of Lally is a building block that perhaps others don't have.

The first question any candidate has about us, is our NIL budget. I don't think GMAC is convinced we have what it take$ to compete in the ACC consistently. He's not alone. It's a concern others have.

Anybody who thinks someone is going to take this job and worry about the NIL after is grossly out of touch with today's environment.

Let me short circuit those who think i'm blaming this year's results on NIL. I'm not. We have the players this year to compete. We had the NIL last off season to compete. Its coaching failure that we're not in the ncaa tourney discussion.

But the next guy might not have last year's NIL budget. He might not have Alex Kline to lean into. He's going to have a new AD (that likely will not have the support to move in a different direction at his immediate discretion though).

We have a challenge ahead of us.
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I couldn't agree with your post more. I know in my case, I'm not giving my opinions on this. This is what I have been told by people that are in a position to know.
 
rrlbees said:
we have several here who don't think it'll be a consideration at all for candidates. i said the same thing you have here, and several shot it down. its one of the first questions most candidates would ask for almost any hc job. it has to be.
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That is because people still think we are the Syracuse of 15 years ago. I believe we can be again. But that isn't how we are viewed today by coaches out there. We have alums that are reluctant to take the job.
 
Cuse1055 said:
All of this sounds like another reason why somehow having Autry back with a less NIL budget would be an absolute disaster.
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Honestly, I don't see how Autry back is even possible. The donors would just dry up. I suppose if we went on a run the likes of which no one could envision as being remotely possible.
 
rrlbees said:
we have several here who don't think it'll be a consideration at all for candidates. i said the same thing you have here, and several shot it down. its one of the first questions most candidates would ask for almost any hc job. it has to be.
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Is that directed at me? Because I'm calling BS on that interpretation. What I said is that the capability to have baseline NIL resources is in place at Syracuse University, and will improve if a coach can deliver a winning product on the court. The failure our program is experiencing is one of coaching. NIL resources are not a systemic weakness that can't be provided.

Now, if the question is, will we have the same kind of disposable resources that an SEC team has, or frivolous b1g teams throw around? No. But that's not the only way to win. That's why I used to tune out when people would suggest that we need a top nil team to help Autry win. If that's the case, it was an even bigger sign that the coach was subpar.

And it certainly doesn't explain the fact that dozens of colleges, across all levels, across all conferences, are capable of fielding competitive teams without leading the pack in terms of NIL resources.

So to recap, anyone who thinks that our path back to the top 25 necessitates A small, private school like Syracuse with a limited alumni base always spending near the top of college basketball is setting themselves up for disappointment. Instead, a much more strategically viable path to success is to get a coach who knows what the heck they are doing, who can implement quality systems on both sides of the ball, who can recruit players to that system, and then you supplement that with the portal. There are lots of examples of programs that do this properly and well, like Purdue, like UVA.

Those are the type of programs we should emulate, not Arkansas that can just spend money because they have a benefactor with unlimited bankroll.

Hodgson checks a lot of the boxes. And for the record, there may be a lot of coaches who we wouldn't be able to pay enough, or have enough guarantees for. That's the problem with hiring a crappy coach to replace Boeheim and letting the program slip into further irrelevancy, with bigger question are all marks than we had 3 years ago.

There are literally dozens of teams, even at lower conferences, contending for NCAA tournament appearance this year, who routinely show an efficient offense and get after it defensively, with a fraction of our nil resources. If they can do it, so can we. We just need to land a coach who is competent, who can implement systems that will enable us to be competitive in modern college basketball, and then get the fan base enthusiastic again so that our NIL coffers grow.

Because trying to spend like Ohio State or SEC teams probably isn't going to be a strategy that is viable for us long term. Nor is going cheap and trying to hope that we can cobble together success, nor is trying to live in the shadow of past Glory by hiring yet another unqualified coach from the Boeheim coaching tree and hoping for a different result this time.

We need to pick a lane, and get it right this time. Not just pick the fastlane when we're driving a car that tops out at 50 mph.

John Wildhack has done a lot of sensational things here at Syracuse, but his legacy is riding on getting this next basketball hire right.
 
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dasher said:
That is because people still think we are the Syracuse of 15 years ago. I believe we can be again. But that isn't how we are viewed today by coaches out there. We have alums that are reluctant to take the job.
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Do you think if the next HC is able to get positive results with the NIL situation being what it is, that the budget would grow as a result? Is there potential for it to improve or do you see a hard ceiling?

I'd like to think getting some positive mo back would bring some money into the program again to charge things.
 
cusefan88 said:
Do you think if the next HC is able to get positive results with the NIL situation being what it is, that the budget would grow as a result? Is there potential for it to improve or do you see a hard ceiling?

I'd like to think getting some positive mo back would bring some money into the program again to charge things.
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I actually do think that if we were winning, money would flow in. That is just my opinion. People want to be part of winning and success.
 
And we are reluctant to hire alums after the debacle of the last 10 years so that’s a win-win. In Hodgson We Trust IMO.
 
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