O, just re-read your comment and what you were responding to. I’m an idiot.
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The NC State Keates miracle run to the final 4 situation taught every major P4 program a lesson for the modern era.
Enjoy the Tourney run but don't make rash decisions on keeping or even extending a coach you were going to fire. It's sports, there will always be miracle runs but the coaches are still going to be the same coaches the next year.
It bought him a year and they were right back in the same boat.
Obviously wouldn't happen but are you saying if SU were to run the table in ACC tournament and miraculously run to final four, that you would fire Autry?
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Coach Sean McDermott is available for hire. Great culture builder as proven in Buffalo. He's a wrestler by trade but maybe he can do a quick deep dive into basketball and turn this thing around.
Yes. That's my point. If anyone learned anything from the Keates situation that's what should happen.
It wasn't Keates that flipped a switch or turned a corner and became a ACCT tourney winning or final 4 coach. It was the players that made a miracle run and played lights out for about 10 games. Happens every few decades ha.
Imagine we're about ready to bring Schertz or BH in or whoever is at top of the list and you've had the convos and rallied the decisionmakers and donors because we know Autry is not the guy. Then you say nevermind let's see if he all the sudden learned how to be a championship coach next year.
It's just not how it works and then all these coaches on your list are not going to pick up the phone next year or be somewhere else.
Keatts run was a little different because he had automatic extension written in his contract for winning the ACC tournament as well as raises for his NCAA tourney run
ahh yea good point.
Red should have to win Syracuse a Natty to keep his job for another year. I would love for Red to go out on a good note. I have zero trust that even if we find ourselves with success in the ACCT that it will turn into a consistent successful product, and for that Syracuse needs to move into a different direction in basically all scenarios. A natty though, yeah let’s see what happens next season with Red. Syracuse should be a consistent successful product.
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I know you're joking, but I watched most of last night's St. Louis game and even though they lost, I felt he outcoached the RI coach. By that I mean that St. Louis had a lot more open, good shots. Rhode Island benefited from a guy who is normally a mediocre 3-point shooter hitting 9 threes for a very high percentage, many of them very difficult.
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Someone brought up this stooges name. This guy is a weasel. Look how he gas lights this guy with the “raise your voice” comment. Chip is the one that went back at the reporter. Not the other way around. What a coward. Takes real guts to go after a kid reporter. Loser. Never even consider this stooge , please
This guy was an excellent coach in the Big East days. One of the best. I have a lot of respect for him. Walk a mile in any coach's shoes after a tough loss and deal with stupid questions immediately following. Then you can judge.
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But I still think your point stands. You need to look at big picture when evaluating coaches rather than a small sample size. Quite frankly, that's why we got into trouble in the latter part of the JB era. We had a couple nice NCAA runs but when you look at the overall picture, we were slipping for several years.
Kornheiser and Wilbon weigh in on Syracuse. Something really wrong...
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The Michigan analogy is accurate, and my wife/kids (who all went to Michigan) remind me that change can be quite good.
ESPN’s Kornheiser and Wilbon weigh in on SU basketball: ‘There’s something really wrong at Syracuse’
One of ESPN's most prominent voices called for a 'full reset' for Syracuse basketball.
The Michigan analogy is accurate, and my wife/kids (who all went to Michigan) remind me that change can be quite good.
Thats a JB specialty lol, he was no saint with the student reporters
True. I think that the biggest difference back 10 years ago (even beyond the 30 year HC) was that the prospect of a complete rebuild was really scary. No portal or NIL, not to mention a rookie coach facing off against like 5 other HoF ACC coaches and 5 other ACC coaches with 10-20 years under them.
Most of the decisionmakers lost their nerve and just kicked the can down the road. I've said many times that this is what we've seen happen in the business world a million times. Just like most companies they hit hard times, clean house then bounce back. Most bounce back looking different, some fall apart because they refuse to adapt.
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More attention nationally is being directed at the failure of the Syracuse program like on PTI and things will likely only get worse as the loses pile up.Kornheiser and Wilbon weigh in on Syracuse. Something really wrong...
ESPN’s Kornheiser and Wilbon weigh in on SU basketball: ‘There’s something really wrong at Syracuse’
One of ESPN's most prominent voices called for a 'full reset' for Syracuse basketball.
The Michigan analogy is accurate, and my wife/kids (who all went to Michigan) remind me that change can be quite good.
NC is really hurting now but if we get blown out or even beat, it will be a good time with a week before our next game to avoid more bad publicity and let Red go and officially focusing on looking for our next coach.
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Lots of Boeheim in this exchange from last night!
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Ok yeah sure. Mick Cronin is interested in the Syracuse job. Well sorry Mick, Steve thought you were a stooge because you had an attitude with a reporter asking dumb questions after a complete blowout.
Who cares about your 4x coach of the year awards. Who cares about your 16 tourney wins. Who cares about your 514-240(.682) career record.
You guys kill me with your moral superiority attitudes.
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Kornheiser and Wilbon weigh in on Syracuse. Something really wrong...
ESPN’s Kornheiser and Wilbon weigh in on SU basketball: ‘There’s something really wrong at Syracuse’
One of ESPN's most prominent voices called for a 'full reset' for Syracuse basketball.
The Michigan analogy is accurate, and my wife/kids (who all went to Michigan) remind me that change can be quite good.
They are right.
It was a disastrous hire, but a predictable outcome given what led to the hire.
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JB was a jerk to the media and those he perceived below him or irrelevant.
Still a great hc. I don’t mind character flaws if wr are winning. We have a decent man as hc right now
