Coach Search Options after Autry

[phil77]

Love Hop and think he is a great person I would love for him to be a part of our basketball program somehow but not as a head coach.

 

[Briancuse]

Brian Hopkins would be a terrible hire come on.

I'm not in favor of the hire. I'm just saying their are worse options out there. I just don't understand why this university refuses to move on and look outside of cny.

 

[Bulldog04]

I'm not in favor of the hire. I'm just saying there are worse options out there. I just don't understand why this university refuses to move on and look outside of cny.

$$$ they know they can get hop for cheap and get a lot of donations

 

[Jake]

And there’s some serious backing for him. He’s very likable as we all know. And I love the guy. Gave me my first SU ball boy job. Played a ton of golf with him. And it pains me to say this, I don’t think this time is the right time for him to be the coach. He would endure a lot of what red is going through no matter how good the result is in my mind. And I don’t want to see another guy go through that and have us as fans go through what we’re going through right now if it doesn’t go well

My impression is the belief is Hodgson brings program building and $, Hop is the second best fundraising option.

 

[orange7]

$$$ they know they can get hop for cheap and get a lot of donations

Gmac really doesn’t want it? I’d take him over Hop.

 

[Bulldog04]

Gmac really doesn’t want it? I’d take him over Hop.

Gmac things he’s going to be wanted for a massive job in a few years… just relaying what I heard from others and he has resource concerns

 

[Newhouser]

If Hop gets chosen over Hodgson my belief that the school isn't trying and only wants to cash checks will be in cement.

 

[Jake]

If Hop gets chosen over Hodgson my belief that the school isn't trying and only wants to cash checks will be in cement.

Why would you post that? Absolutely nobody is suggesting that.

 

[elimunelson]

Hop has certainly been working the phones. No doubt.

I said this a few days ago. Add me to the list of those who know. I think he’s going to be in play for bc w Gerry if that opens up. I heard it may not though

 

[cusefan88]

Hopkins should only come back as an Assistant Coach. Would be insanity to hire him as HC.

 

[hoopsupstate]

$$$ they know they can get hop for cheap and get a lot of donations

It’s winning that they should worry about, not making some people happy.

 

[RF2044]

I'd prefer we not hire anyone that requires every sentence about them to start "He's a great guy, but...".

It's been a long 3 years of that.

Agreed.

Time for a fresh start.

Not for trying to recapture nostalgia from 2015.

 

[Orangello]

Good to hear. Gilardino doesn’t post a lot, but he has a history of being right. I trust that his source knows as much as anyone.

I'm riding with GLDO

 

[RF2044]

$$$ they know they can get hop for cheap and get a lot of donations

This isn't a direct reaction to you bulldog, but more about the sentiment you're describing.

The program has been in a steady decline for a period of 8 plus years. If the rationalized objective at this stage, with the program teetering on the precipice of plummeting into ruin, is to be able to land a coach "for cheap," then it tells us everything we need to know about the university's commitment to getting the Titanic turned around.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

So what coach who has won NCAA tournament games are you suggesting?

Chris Mack is going to make some fan base very happy.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/chris-mack-1.html

 

[Bulldog04]

This isn't a direct reaction to you bulldog, but more about the sentiment you're describing.

The program has been in a steady decline for a period of 8 plus years. If the rationalized objective at this stage, with the program teetering on the precipice of plummeting into ruin, is to be able to land a coach "for cheap," then it tells us everything we need to know about the university's commitment to getting the Titanic turned around.

Trust me I’m with ya. That’s why I said this isn’t the time to basically try to be slick and get lucky. Hire BH and let’s go

 

[phil77]

Chris Mack is going to make some fan base very happy.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/coaches/chris-mack-1.html

I really like Mack but I think with everything going on (AD and up) it will either be Hop, GMac, or BH, that is if I had to guess with about 3 weeks left.

 

[Jake]

This isn't a direct reaction to you bulldog, but more about the sentiment you're describing.

The program has been in a steady decline for a period of 8 plus years. If the rationalized objective at this stage, with the program teetering on the precipice of plummeting into ruin, is to be able to land a coach "for cheap," then it tells us everything we need to know about the university's commitment to getting the Titanic turned around.

Hop is not in play because he can be had for cheap (consider that part “value -added”), he’s in play because he has the financial support of a significant portion of our boosters. Tell them it’s a bad idea.

In the NIL world we’re in, accumulating dead presidents is a lot of the job.

Now having said that, I think he’s a distant second choice.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I really like Mack but I think with everything going on (AD and up) it will either be Hop, GMac, or BH, that is if I had to guess with about 3 weeks left.

I don’t know how the University can sell this hire if they bring in Hop or GMAC. They won’t sell me.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Mick Cronin getting run off his home floor with 10 points in 10 minutes.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If it’s Hopkins I’ll ask for a refund on my season tickets. I want him less than Gerry.

 

[007]

If it’s Hopkins I’ll ask for a refund on my season tickets. I want him less than Gerry.

hang on to your tickets

 

[35kcuse]

My impression is the belief is Hodgson brings program building and $, Hop is the second best fundraising option.

I know that nobody agrees with this on here and i’m not attacking anybody but this logic is so idiotic.

Hopkins can bring in donations. Great. He’s a personable guy who has done so much for ‘Cuse.

He CAN NOT coach. Just like Red. And there is more substance for that statement than there is for Autry.

Therefore, the donations (in my opinion) become completely irrelevant.

 

[RF2044]

Hop is not in play because he can be had for cheap (consider that part “value -added”), he’s in play because he has the financial support of a significant portion of our boosters. Tell them it’s a bad idea.

In the NIL world we’re in, accumulating dead presidents is a lot of the job.

Now having said that, I think he’s a distant second choice.

It's a bad idea because he was an abject failure the last 3 years of his tenure at the University of Washington.

I'm very happy that he landed on his feet in an assisting coaching capacity in the NBA, but let's be real. No other college team is angling to land Mike Hopkins right now. When he was at Washington, his schemes on both sides of the ball were subpar. We saw the same in terms of subpar systems on both sides of the ball with Red, here.

Who would win a sign up for that?

Hop shouldn't be in play at all. The only reason he is is that he has ties to the program. Scooch said it above, we shouldn't have to qualify candidates by saying,"...but he's a great guy..."

Given the precarious position our program is in, there shouldn't be any "buts" involved.

Board members and donors screwed up the last hire, I don't want to see them screw up this higher and get the program even further beached.

Boosters in school administrators ought to pay attention to the fan apathy, the massively declined attendance, and the disgruntled malaise that the program is mired in. If they want to risk it by not bringing in a proven commodity, then the financial hits and fan disengagement could continue to worsen.

I think things would be different if we were a program that was going to the NCAA tournament and winning 22 games a year, as a role of the dice. That's not the status quo, we are floundering and we need a coach who has proven chops to right the ship.

 

[RedtheGOB]

This isn't a direct reaction to you bulldog, but more about the sentiment you're describing.

The program has been in a steady decline for a period of 8 plus years. If the rationalized objective at this stage, with the program teetering on the precipice of plummeting into ruin, is to be able to land a coach "for cheap," then it tells us everything we need to know about the university's commitment to getting the Titanic turned around.

No offense but the expectation of something different was a longshot.

If anything the people deciding are more empowered than ever to find the Fran brown template. They got 10 wins and a national ranking in his first year on the cheap. They are going to look for the same in hoops.

Fran was not on anyone’s radar even as G5 head coach and cost fractions of what other P5 coaches are getting paid.

Guess we’ll see if it works out.