Coach Search Options after Autry

[Fly Rodder]

He recruited well until he went 15-17 with multiple McDonalds All Americans.

Personally, I think the bigger issue is that he was there 7 years and never cracked the top-40 in KP with good to great talent - including those he brought from the northeast.

It does seem that the bh side can't even listen to the Hopkins argument without getting upset.

Because their coaching resume and current momentum are not even close to comparable unless the potential hiring school is Syracuse. And then it's only because they both have some booster support that's not really quantifiable (there have been numbers bandied about, but that's straight rumor unlike their coaching stats).

 

[dasher]

Should also be noted that in one of those Coach of the Year seasons his team did not make the NCAA tournament.

Sure. Everything should be brought up. What we don't know is the financial situation at the University. The real one. Not the cry poor one that everyone of us that graduated from the University heard for 4 years while we were there. Maybe we are flush with money. Maybe the South Florida buyout would really hurt us. I have no idea. Maybe the NIL money from Melo is real and we really need it. We do know who we believe is the better coach from what our eyes have seen.

 

[littlereg]

I think BH has got a ton of praise on this board. And I wasn't doing any coding for Hopkins. I was stating what that side would say about his job at Washington. There has been plenty of what you would call coding for BH. It does seem that the bh side can't even listen to the Hopkins argument without getting upset. While I don't favor for Hopkins in this battle, I find the BH side hilarious with their defensive argument for him.

Again hilarious.

Even more funny to call others crybabies while you saying this the irony is beyond hilarious. The BH side doesn’t wanna hear the same BS repeated over and over again like corporate Syracuse will continue to do. To boost up their guy. But don’t worry if anyone boosts up hodgson and give push backs it’s not being an emotional cry baby right?

 

[dasher]

Again hilarious.

I agree.

 

[rrlbees]

I really can't believe how many times this needs to be said, but endowments ARE NOT USED for any athletic department purposes. Ever. They are never used for day-to-day or operational funding.

In my endowment I put that it can be used for athletics.

 

[sufan59]

I think BH has got a ton of praise on this board. And I wasn't doing any coding for Hopkins. I was stating what that side would say about his job at Washington. There has been plenty of what you would call coding for BH. It does seem that the bh side can't even listen to the Hopkins argument without getting upset. While I don't favor for Hopkins in this battle, I find the BH side hilarious with their defensive argument for him.

Did Hopkins try to get a lower level head coaching job when he got fired from Washington?

 

[littlereg]

Sure. Everything should be brought up. What we don't know is the financial situation at the University. The real one. Not the cry poor one that everyone of us that graduated from the University heard for 4 years while we were there. maybe we are flush with money. Maybe the South Florida buyout would really hurt us. I have no idea. Maybe the NIL money from melo is real and we really need it. We do know who we believe is the better coach from what our eyes have seen.

You speak hypothetically to boost Hopkins every single time. If you can’t even come up with a good faith argument in reality, maybe just maybe it’s not a good idea! Shocking right.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I really can't believe how many times this needs to be said, but endowments ARE NOT USED for any athletic department purposes. Ever. They are never used for day-to-day or operational funding.

The new AD can just go down to the Endowment Savings & Loan and withdraw billions of dollars to pay the next coach, right?

 

[Fly Rodder]

Did Hopkins try to get a lower level head coaching job when he got fired from Washington?

No, he got a job with his buddy Troy Weaver.

 

[orange79]

That's not entirely true. Lots of schools have head coach endowments, program endowments, athletic scholarship endowments, etc. The principal is never spent, but the interest that they spin off most certainly does go toward operating costs within the designated athletic programs they support. That being said, most athletics-specific endowment funds usually make up a pretty small portion of a college/university's overall endowment.

I understand that. But that is not the endowment he was talking about.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

In my endowment I put that it can be used for athletics.

I heard you weren't very well endowed.

I'll see my way out.

 

[dasher]

You speak hypothetically to boost Hopkins every single time. If you can’t even come up with a good faith argument in reality, maybe just maybe it’s not a good idea! Shocking right.

Are you really that oblivious? I don't support Hopkins for the job. I am thinking of calling my friends on the BOT to tell them my opinion on both Hopkins and Lyke. I present the argument for Hopkins because most (you) can't understand how someone could be on the other side. Period. You are the perfect example of why I do this. I was against Hopkins before he took the Washington job. Maybe you weren't here then. JFC. Plus, I have defended the BOT as being wrong if they chose either Hopkins or Lyke. But not choosing simply because they like one person over the other.

 

[capeorange]

I really can't believe how many times this needs to be said, but endowments ARE NOT USED for any athletic department purposes. Ever. They are never used for day-to-day or operational funding.

I believe most people know that. I thought he was just pointing out that Syracuse is not an impoverished university overall.

 

[pearl31]

It should be a done deal, but it's not because this is a messy situation and we have a side who I love for what they've done for the university, but are focused on nonsense. Guarantee BH 10 million a year guaranteed in resources for the first 2 years, he can probably get even more than that the second casual people learn about him. University should be prepared to be paying 3.25 million plus after year 2 granted he delivers atleast 22 or 23 wins with NCAAT berth in year 1. Starting salary at 2.5 million negotiable dependent on how the season ends for him at South Florida. University would have to be prepared to go 3 million plus year 1 on starting salary if Hodgson USF team makes the tournament and gets to the second weekend.

Point is: nobody other than Hodgson and maybe his inner circle knows how attractive he finds the Syracuse job, where geographically he wants to be, and what his criteria will be in deciding his next move. I like him/want him, but it's breathlessly sold on here as some in-the-bag foregone conclusion if SU simply dials his #

 

[FrancoPizza]

I think BH has got a ton of praise on this board. And I wasn't doing any coding for Hopkins. I was stating what that side would say about his job at Washington. There has been plenty of what you would call coding for BH. It does seem that the bh side can't even listen to the Hopkins argument without getting upset. While I don't favor for Hopkins in this battle, I find the BH side hilarious with their defensive argument for him.

There would be much less controversy if Hop was picked over Red 3 years ago. Why was Hop not part of that equation then?

 

[hoopsupstate]

He also can show not one but two Coach of the year awards. Plus, a long time serving this institution well. He can try to sell that he lost his recruiting base when he went west. And that Washington is a tough place to win.

I’m beginning to think that Syracuse is also a tough place to win based on the last ten years.

 

[sufan59]

LOL

 

[dasher]

LOL

Well, it is official, we have hit rock bottom when South Florida is looking down on us.

 

[dasher]

There would be much less controversy if Hop was picked over Red 3 years ago. Why was Hop not part of that equation then?

He had left. Period.

 

[sufan59]

Point is: nobody other than Hodgson and maybe his inner circle knows how attractive he finds the Syracuse job, where geographically he wants to be, and what his criteria will be in deciding his next move. I like him/want him, but it's breathlessly sold on here as some in-the-bag foregone conclusion if SU simply dials his #

You got to act and move forward with a mindset that this will get done. Always manifest the best outcome.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I am thinking of calling my friends on the BOT to tell them my opinion on both Hopkins and Lyke.

Don't look now dash, but time may be running out to tell them your opinion.

 

[FrancoPizza]

He had left. Period.

Why did Hop not show interest though?

 

[pearl31]

You got to act and move forward with a mindset that this will get done. Always manifest the best outcome.

um ok I'll stick with reality

 

[dasher]

Don't look now dash, but time may be running out to tell them your opinion.

I'm reluctant. One, do they really need to hear form me on this. Two, I got pushback when I tried to bring AW back in the fold. Three. I think it will be BH and not Lyke. Why use up chips if I don't need to.

 

[sufan59]

Well, it is official, we have hit rock bottom when South Florida is looking down on us.

In a decade, Syracuse will definitely not be able to poach from South Florida with the trajectory their athletic program is on. They will have a seat at the table, but right now, idk. Even yesterday, for days they were talking about the upper deck in their arena being filled and it wasn't even close.