Coach Search Options after Autry

[35kcuse]

Pro Hodgson messages seem extensive, logical, and well thought out. They tend to logically explain the entire college hoops landscape and where Syracuse slides in

 

[pearl31]

Some of us feel like there’s another echo chamber reverberating within the halls of powers in the administration and among some university stakeholders.

I'd tend to agree

 

[Sbucketball]

You could sell me on a lot of coaches. You could sell me on Gmac even. I think MH would quite possibly the worst hire in any sport in a long time.

Lol what is if this is a masterclass in manipulation by SU and they actually want Gmac and leaking Hopkins is to make fans relieved and happier with the hire. That would be something. Melo and the names I've heard in his camp seem like they would support Gmac too.

 

[Widget24]

It’s hilarious how people are now trying to make it seem like getting BH is going to be a long shot.

I don’t know how many times I have to say this, but I know with 1000% certainty that this is the job at the top of his list, and the others don’t come close. He and his camp have done their homework and know which jobs have the possibility of opening, and he’s made it clear which one he covets. If you choose not to believe me, that’s fine.

Secondly, he knows that he’s going to have an opportunity to get a power conference job this offseason. The idea that now we have to worry about him signing an extension with South Florida really made me laugh. He’s not agreeing to that, and in fact, he purposely had the buyout set low in his contract so when this opportunity arose, it wouldn’t be an issue for teams to come get him.

It’s as simple as this: offer him a competitive salary and make sure you are providing adequate NIL (it doesn’t have to be some insane number), and we will have our new coach.

Love it! Thanks, BH!

 

[phil77]

It does seem that the bh side can't even listen to the Hopkins argument without getting upset.

The reason I get so heated about Mike Hopkins, and this has nothing to do with Hodgson, is simple there are zero basketball reasons to consider him a viable candidate.

His tenure at Washington Huskies showed nothing that suggests he’s capable of succeeding as a head coach at this level. He didn’t just struggle, he flamed out. If Washington had been a bad situation and Hopkins was a good coach, the logical next step would have been to take a lower-level job, especially on the East Coast, and prove that point. He didn’t do that.

Instead, what the tape shows is a coach who could still recruit decent enough but was behind the times strategically. His offenses were stagnant, his defenses were outdated, and his teams consistently looked unprepared for modern college basketball. Frankly, what Washington looked like over his last five years is exactly what we just watched this season with Syracuse. Talk is cheap. Tape matters.

On top of that:
-He hasn’t coached in college for the last two years
-He hasn’t been immersed in East Coast college basketball for nearly a decade
-There’s no evidence of schematic growth on either end of the floor

If he didn’t play here and wasn’t once an assistant here, his name wouldn’t even come up because by every objective basketball standard, he’s not a qualified candidate.

That’s not emotional. That’s evaluation.

 

[sufan59]

Lol what is if this is a masterclass in manipulation by SU and they actually want Gmac and leaking Hopkins is to make fans relieved and happier with the hire. That would be something. Melo and the names I've heard in his camp seem like they would support Gmac too.

I mean it's working. GMAC is much more relevant in 2026 than Mike Hopkins.

 

[Cuse2023]

but just want to be clear- you are getting this from someone who would definitely know?

Yes.

It’s not a secret either. Everyone in coaching/agent circles knows it.

 

[pearl31]

Yes.

It’s not a secret either. Everyone in coaching/agent circles knows it.

Thanks.

 

[5OutFred]

Couple of notes here:

- This is consensus (in the industry) the weakest coaching carousel in the last five-plus years
- There is a hot-name, qualified coaching candidate that wants the SU job
- We're going to have to pay up for any high-level candidate the market deems attractive. If the market deems them so unattractive that we can "save" by getting someone nobody else wants, that should tell us enough about that candidate.

I've been following national searches for years. In terms of SU's position, you could not ask for a better set of circumstances to knock this out of the park.

 

[Sbucketball]

-This is consensus (in the industry) the weakest coaching carousel in the last five-plus years
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That's the best stroke of luck we've gotten in years. Year or two difference, couple retirements, etc. and SU may have competed with a lot of really good programs. Let's not screw it up.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Not here to cast doubt on you or your sources, and not asking you to explain who or how, but just want to be clear- you are getting this from someone who would definitely know?

Maybe Cuse2023 is the Shark!

 

[dasher]

Couple of notes here:

-This is consensus (in the industry) the weakest coaching carousel in the last five-plus years
-There is a hot-name, qualified coaching candidate that wants the SU job
- We're going to have to pay up for any high-level coach candidate the market deems attractive. If the market deems them so unattractive that we can "save" by getting someone nobody else wants, that should tell us enough about that candidate.

I've been following national searches for years. In terms of SU's position, you could not ask for a better set of circumstances to knock this out of the park.

Yeah, and I think that we will get it right. Let's face it, if not for the 30 million there would have been no discussion right from the jump. Melo or no Melo. However, once again, I think the first call BH has to make is to Melo. I want that money for NIL. Whatever number it really is.

 

[Sherman20]

Are you really that oblivious? I don't support Hopkins for the job. I am thinking of calling my friends on the BOT to tell them my opinion on both Hopkins and Lyke. I present the argument for Hopkins because most (you) can't understand how someone could be on the other side. Period. You are the perfect example of why I do this. I was against Hopkins before he took the Washington job. Maybe you weren't here then. JFC. Plus, I have defended the BOT as being wrong if they chose either Hopkins or Lyke. But not choosing simply because they like one person over the other.

You may not be able to share this info. But do you believe Goodrich is one of the top AD contenders? How about Theodorakis? Anyone else you’ve heard is in the mix?

 

[5OutFred]

That's the best stroke of luck we've gotten in years. Year or two difference, couple retirements, etc. and SU may have competed with a lot of really good programs. Let's not screw it up.

For some perspective here - these are the brands we would've gone up against last year for the top candidates:

Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Miami, NC State, Texas, Texas A&M, Villanova, Virginia, WVU, Xavier.

If you're worried about the likes of Oklahoma and Providence, consider ourselves extremely lucky.

 

[dasher]

You may not be able to share this info. But do you believe Goodrich is one of the top AD contenders? How about Theodorakis? Anyone else you’ve heard is in the mix?

4 interviews today

 

[phil77]

You may not be able to share this info. But do you believe Goodrich is one of the top AD contenders? How about Theodorakis? Anyone else you’ve heard is in the mix?

I am pretty sure Theodorakis just signed an extension.

 

[PauliePeppas]

For some perspective here - these are the brands we would've gone up against last year for the top candidates:

Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Miami, NC State, Texas, Texas A&M, Villanova, Virginia, WVU, Xavier.

If you're worried about the likes of Oklahoma and Providence, consider ourselves extremely lucky.

Exactly, tired of hearing how SU is little sisters of the poor in some peoples minds

 

[PauliePeppas]

I am pretty sure Theodorakis just signed an extension.

Correct

 

[FrancoPizza]

4 interviews today

Do you know if Tirico is back stateside and doing his DD?

 

[littlereg]

Are you really that oblivious? I don't support Hopkins for the job. I am thinking of calling my friends on the BOT to tell them my opinion on both Hopkins and Lyke. I present the argument for Hopkins because most (you) can't understand how someone could be on the other side. Period. You are the perfect example of why I do this. I was against Hopkins before he took the Washington job. Maybe you weren't here then. JFC. Plus, I have defended the BOT as being wrong if they chose either Hopkins or Lyke. But not choosing simply because they like one person over the other.

I think I just woke up angry so apologizes it’s just getting really frustrating seeing alot of the same stuff repeated over and over and it’s like a bad case of Déjà vu of the last 10 years or so. We heard similar stuff during the fading years of JB, heard similar stuff when we wanted a national search and not anyone in house. We’ve heard it during the entire failure of the red Autry era and we’re hearing it now. No one needs to hear Syracuse propoganda and hypotheticals we’re all adults and Syracuse fans. Do you not think it doesn’t get naeuseating for people on the BH side seeing “oh he was pac-12 coach the the year” and other similar quoteables everyday without the actual context behind it? But yeah it’s only one side sure. The extremes on both sides get extremely annoying and frustrating. If you don’t argue for Hopkins half the people here automatically assume us peons are mere uneducated pesesnts who shouldn’t walk the same earth. But on the flip side I definitely understand the sentiment of how annoying and frustrating it gets with the “it’s only persona” people and the people who think “oh it’s simple just sign BH”. Like clearly and obviously it’s not simple and straight forward I try to block those people out of my mind while also assuming most people here have a general idea of what they’re talking about going into a conversation with them. So Yeah I’ve seen you mentioned in other posts youve said you don’t want hopkin but guess what? if im oblivious you’re just as much because you dont realize that some of the things you say are by default supportive without you realizing it really I guess so you just end up playing both sides. To act like its insane to get all the pushback against hop right now is crazy to me. Thats the exact reason it is this loud because that’s what the “ outside hire” side needs to do, it’s basically social protesting.

You don’t know what every single person is thinking your way of thinking isnt the only right way, nor is mine. you can’t seem to understand how getting to the “Hopkins side” is an issue. It’s not about understanding how they got there, it’s understanding it’s inept work and thinking, there’s a reason there’s national pundit mockery of it already with minimal know-about. In your same tone, It’s not just the “bh side” by the way. Theres is a plethora of coaches I would consider im not on this hivemind mindset of its hop or bust, BH/bust. Theres is a multiple coaches I would be okay with WAY before Hopkins and It’s not the end of the world if someone were to out pay us for BH or something as long as the people making the decisions are thinking the right way.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I am pretty sure Theodorakis just signed an extension.

Might not matter; devil is always in the details and especially financials.

 

[Chip]

I have to laugh at all the people calling this simple. Making a muti million dollar, extremely publicly scrutinized decision with no chancellor and no AD is anything but simple. We are very lucky to have the insiders we do, and very lucky to know as much as we do. But its insane to think this situation is anything other than very fluid and very unstable.

Come on, have you seen his wife? This is easy. We don't need a Chancellor or AD to make this decision.

Besides, SUADGB may not feel the same way, don't give her the chance to ruin it.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I think the first call BH has to make is to Melo.

The fact that BH runs a program styled for the NBA has to be appealing to Melo if he takes off the JB blinders and accepts that Kiyan may not be guaranteed PT on a stacked roster.

 

[MikeSU02]

The reason I get so heated about Mike Hopkins, and this has nothing to do with Hodgson, is simple there are zero basketball reasons to consider him a viable candidate.

His tenure at Washington Huskies showed nothing that suggests he’s capable of succeeding as a head coach at this level. He didn’t just struggle, he flamed out. If Washington had been a bad situation and Hopkins was a good coach, the logical next step would have been to take a lower-level job, especially on the East Coast, and prove that point. He didn’t do that.

Instead, what the tape shows is a coach who could still recruit decent enough but was behind the times strategically. His offenses were stagnant, his defenses were outdated, and his teams consistently looked unprepared for modern college basketball. Frankly, what Washington looked like over his last five years is exactly what we just watched this season with Syracuse. Talk is cheap. Tape matters.

On top of that:
-He hasn’t coached in college for the last two years
-He hasn’t been immersed in East Coast college basketball for nearly a decade
-There’s no evidence of schematic growth on either end of the floor

If he didn’t play here and wasn’t once an assistant here, his name wouldn’t even come up because by every objective basketball standard, he’s not a qualified candidate.

That’s not emotional. That’s evaluation.

Also, post-Washington:

2024-25 assistant on Phoenix Suns which had a terribly disappointing season and once they did an org and roster change, they are now over-performing this year.
2025-26 assistant for the Pelicans that are currently sitting at 13th in the West.

There is no legitimate search for a new head coach which includes Hopkins. Especially when we are trying to fix the last 10+ years of Syracuse basketball when we are coming upon another potential seismic shift in college athletics.

Hodgson isn't perfect, but his resume is miles better than Hop.

Hop's time was after the second probation. That ship has sailed. But people let JB keep rolling.

 

[Fly Rodder]

4 interviews today

The Craftsman is going to be hopping tonight! I might have to stop into the bar and get a manhattan.