Coach Search Options after Autry

[NKR1978]

I just hate the way college sports have changed. I know that’s kinda off topic but I just am so annoyed by all of it right now. All the NIL/money grabbing/donors BS, etc.

The playing field is so out of level and it’s only getting worse. It just sucks.

The playing field is more level. Right now any team can pony up the money for top players. Before NIL you had to have the right conference or right history to do it.

 

[LAorange44]

not sure what to think

It means that today is a great day and we are hopefully going to announce the hiring of a terrific coach!

 

[cuseguy]

Ok, I won’t get into all of the rumor and speculation surrounding Hodgson because there’s plenty to go around. The most important thing is where do we go next?

I’m going to be pretty clear that the next coach needs to want Syracuse. Hodgson seemed like the right fit. Upstate NY background. Syracuse fan. Top recruiter. Strong fundraiser. But he didn’t really want Syracuse.

The next coach needs to have more than just a successful resume. He needs to have the character to live with high expectations because they’ll be higher than ever before. He needs to be a part of the community and be able, along with his family, to endure harsh winters. It was never going to be easy replacing a legend. Red found that out the hard way.

The list of potential coaches doesn’t appear to include many who fit that criteria. The one getting the most attention now does meet those standards with the exception of experience. Is it worth the risk? Or do you move on and hand it to someone who doesn’t know the culture, isn’t ready for SU expectations, and a foot of snow in his driveway?

Make the wrong call and we’re back in the same place.

 

[Orangezoo]

Yes, I've watched their games. They still rely on Doty to make TOUGH SHOTS.

Tough shots in the paint that will get stuffed often if he does that vs Duke or most any decent P4.

 

[sufan59]

Yes, I've watched their games. They still rely on Doty to make TOUGH SHOTS.

And he makes them, though I don’t think Doty makes them against ACC opponents and that’s a problem. The best teams have someone that can make the tough shot even when the initial offense breaks down.

 

[Orangezoo]

It means that today is a great day and we are hopefully going to announce the hiring of a terrific coach!

You gonna run away if it turns out it fails miserably??

 

[XC Cuse]

If it's Hop or Gmac. I'll take Gerry, at least it's unknown, Hop I can't see it going well.

 

[Cusefan0307]

And he makes them, though I don’t think Doty makes them against ACC opponents and that’s a problem. The best teams have someone that can make the tough shot even when the initial offense breaks down.

I don’t want offenses designed around players who take contested 15 footers.

 

[Cuse12]

IF that is true that BH was turned down by SU and he was the #1 target then that is a MUCH different situation than the doom and gloom scenarios being spewed here. My guess is that we have new tastier fish in the pond like the Iowa St coach. Someone that all the major donors could get behind. Meaning SU put together a package that he couldn’t refuse. Deal is basically done and now we have to wait a couple weeks for it to be official, but things will start to leak out unofficially. With his team in the tournament though both sides will want to keep a tight lid as much as possible.

Or if not ISU then someone else out of left field that was interested thanks to the new regime that is clearly a better candidate than BH. If our top pick was turned away that can only be good news that we found someone better. It’s the only thing that makes sense. Sometimes the simple answers are right in front of us.

If SU was really struggling and panhandling for NIL and BH was the only big fish in the pond they wouldn’t terminate that line of negotiation until all time and resources were exhausted. That is the key point here. SU has NIL - it was always about finding a way to unify the donors.

The answers are right in front of us and we just have to stop assuming the worst. Granted that can be hard around here. Goddammit what is the matter with you people? Wake up and be men! (or women)

I really really hope Blair shocks us with a candidate we never thought we could get. If it was the ISU coach as mentioned that would be a huge pick me up for this fanbase. Really hope we get shocked in the right way.

 

[qdawgg]

It means that today is a great day and we are hopefully going to announce the hiring of a terrific coach!

Great guy that will be unsuccessful. That’s what I look for in any new coaching hires. Harder to fire too when it’s obvious he’s still not a winner. So extra years of misery.

Awesome!!!!

 

[Orangezoo]

I really really hope Blair shocks us with a candidate we never thought we could get. If it was the ISU coach as mentioned that would be a huge pick me up for this fanbase. Really hope we get shocked in the right way.

 

[LAorange44]

You gonna run away if it turns out it fails miserably??

Nah dude. I’ve been locked in for decades. I survived and am a veteran of the GERG years. We will get through this and will be flying high in no time!!!!!

 

[tep624]

Btw Hodgson did not get the job, he DID NOT turn it down. I have this from one of the most legit and reputable sources in the game. Not sure if it’s Gerry or someone else, but this is the agent spinning it that he turned it down.

If this is true, I wonder if it’s because we didn’t want to meet his ask. I can’t imagine we didn’t want him outright.

Then again I never thought Lyke would be an AD candidate, so what the hell do I know?

 

[Trueblue25]

Lmao just two weeks ago I was navigating how to increase my donations and split with the basketball program when I had been football only prior.

 

[Briancuse]

heres a thought, some have bandied about here but got lost in the shuffle, coach somewhere saw how Fran came out of the blue assertively offering himself up, same here? Someone unknown to us at this point comes up in the mix?

Because fran wanted the job and called wildhack. No one outside the su friends and family want this mess.

 

[Jasoncuse]

Still not sure who it’s going to be. Went to bed last night thinking it was Hop. Now Thinking it could also be Gerry.

Either way, it’s heavily heavily leaning in-house.

Either way, that sucks and our dead program is even deader

 

[Orangezoo]

Lmao just two weeks ago I was navigating how to increase my donations and split with the basketball program when I had been football only prior.

Yeah same here- had the biggest amount I’d ever donated to hoops ready to go if Hodgson was hired or even a very strong other option like Martelli or Murray…. Not gonna throw it at the wall with an in house.. not unproven at least.

 

[sufan59]

FWIW, I’ve been completely spooked since Blair was hired because it was so random, so who knows what’s about to happen…..

 

[5OutFred]

Do GMac supporters not realize what a massive, massive jump the MAAC is to the ACC? This all reeks.

 

[hoopsupstate]

The $4-5 million salary figures are not happening. If you see $4 million it would be for the assistant coaches and all support staff. It would also INCLUDE the head coach salary.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Indeed. Georgetown is a first class academic institution located in one of America's most vibrant cities. Hoops has always been a nice-to-have for them.

SU without big time college athletics is... not incredibly attractive.

I went to Syracuse for the athletics (and growing up nearby w both of my parents employed by the school). So I basically grew up on that campus and a huge Syracuse sports fan. For me it was undisputed #1 and nothing was #2. The athletics were and are a major, major appeal.

I was a pretty good student in high school and likely could have gone to a better academic institution, but I knew SU was where I was supposed to be. Plus the free tuition (massive perk).

Anyway…. Destroying something that is a big time pull for students is just a bold, bold choice.

 

[sweetpea]

Best way to put horrible news out there.

My daughter mentioned to me that it would show that the administration is embarrassed about their hire.

 

[swish7]

Here’s my fear with in house for the normies to get

1- Hop or GMac get the job
2- decent staff is announced
3- a couple guys we want announced will stay
4- decent NIL package leaked out
5- Decent portal class with some exciting additions
6- off season coverage shows promise and intensity and either of those options are well spoken and the non crazies like us are stoked
7- We smoke both exhibitions an everything looks positive
8- We get to Vegas and can’t score and staff is angry and not sure what to do as we get bulldozed again.
9- The juice and excitement is completely gone and there are no good basketball answers that the staff is able to provide
10- JB is much louder on the media telling Cuse nation to let his guy get going and trust the process and spews some spin about the Vegas losses
11- The tailspin begins before we’ve even gotten to conference season and the dome empties out like it did with Red
12- All along the media and other fanbases are laughing at us like we are Rutgers.

Maybe it doesn’t go this way but the normies need to understand this has a much higher likelihood than with BH and definitely higher with Hop. GMac looks like a good hire compared to Hop and if that’s part of the whole mirage to try and sell this, grading on a curve…

Lastly - if it’s GMac then I’ll just say a little prayer that Siena gives Duke the biggest scare of the season or does the impossible and maybe some faith is restored.

People need to stop punishing GMac for Reds sins.

 

[Dcuse]

Yeah same here- had the biggest amount I’d ever donated to hoops ready to go if Hodgson was hired or even a very strong other option like Martelli or Murray…. Not gonna throw it at the wall with an in house.. not unproven at least.

Amazes me the total lack of support for GMac on this board. I know it shouldn't.

 

[Chip]

Correct in that the presser is at 10.

There will be light snacks.

No way that the new coach is announced at the same time.

I hope he sits at a table with a Hopkins hat, a GMac hat, and a blank hat.

Picks the blank one, music plays. Bah Gawd that's TJO's music.