Colorado fires Karl Dorrell / hires Deion Sanders

[oldpinepoint]

This has been going on for years, case in point, look at these two ringers from Texas State. Brought in for one year. Time to paaaarttty

 

[TexanMark]

I’m not critical of bringing guys in. I’m critical of kicking guys out. I think that’s what Narduzzi was speaking to. And on that part, I think he’s right. Personally, I don’t want Syracuse doing it or anyone else. The program recruited a player. If that player wants to stay for four years, you coach them. If they want to leave on their own, fine. I don’t agree with “cutting” a roster.

I'm kinda ambivalent on this.

The players can leave anytime
Coaches can leave anytime
Players are getting paid now (well openingly now)
Coaches are getting paid

If players want to be treated like adults...they have to realize they can be fired. They asked for this.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I'm kinda ambivalent on this.

The players can leave anytime
Coaches can leave anytime
Players are getting paid now (well openingly now)
Coaches are getting paid

If players want to be treated like adults...they have to realize they can be fired. They asked for this.

agree 100%, rosters are 1 year commitment for all parties.

 

[Cuse'91]

I wonder what would have happened if all these Colorado kids just pulled a James Williams on Deion.

 

[TexanMark]

agree 100%, rosters are 1 year commitment for all parties.

My Fandom is more likely than ever to be the same now

Sadly

 

[money3189]

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This has been going on for years, case in point, look at these two ringers from Texas State. Brought in for one year. Time to paaaarttty

Come on. Was this necessary?

 

[money3189]

I'm kinda ambivalent on this.

The players can leave anytime
Coaches can leave anytime
Players are getting paid now (well openingly now)
Coaches are getting paid

If players want to be treated like adults...they have to realize they can be fired. They asked for this.

Good points. On top of that these coaches are getting fired before getting 3 full classes of their their recruits in.

 

[Finwad32]

Marrone told 9 players to leave. 8 did, 1 refused.

I’m just curious because I don’t know, did the 9th ever work himself into a good spot?

 

[rrlbees]

I’m just curious because I don’t know, did the 9th ever work himself into a good spot?

He was very average to begin with and very average when his career was over. He’s had a very good post playing days career however.

 

[SUskibum]

I’m not critical of bringing guys in. I’m critical of kicking guys out. I think that’s what Narduzzi was speaking to. And on that part, I think he’s right. Personally, I don’t want Syracuse doing it or anyone else. The program recruited a player. If that player wants to stay for four years, you coach them. If they want to leave on their own, fine. I don’t agree with “cutting” a roster.

I am on the players side for virtually every issue. I even think they should be getting 40-50% of TV revenue

That said, if these players don’t have to commit to a school for 4 years then I see no reason why the school should have to commit

Maybe the letter of intent should have a clause that a 4 year guaranteed scholarship (like all P5 schools have now) requires a 4 year commitment (or a 1 year penalty like previous). If the player or school doesn’t want to enter the commitment, that’s fine but then the scholly is no longer guaranteed

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Hoo's That]

I am on the players side for virtually every issue. I even think they should be getting 40-50% of TV revenue

That said, if these players don’t have to commit to a school for 4 years then I see no reason why the school should have to commit

Maybe the letter of intent should have a clause that a 4 year guaranteed scholarship (like all P5 schools have now) requires a 4 year commitment (or a 1 year penalty like previous). If the player or school doesn’t want to enter the commitment, that’s fine but then the scholly is no longer guaranteed

OK, which non-rev sports get cut back due to the loss of income?

 

[All4SU]

OK, which non-rev sports get cut back due to the loss of income?

I think colleges should go back to more non-revenue sports, not fewer. Swimming, wrestling, crew, hockey, golf, volleyball, track/field, and others are all worthy athletic endeavors. I’m tired of the football/basketball and to hell with everything else mentality.

 

[Hoo's That]

I think colleges should go back to more non-revenue sports, not fewer. Swimming, wrestling, crew, hockey, golf, volleyball, track/field, and others are all worthy athletic endeavors. I’m tired of the football/basketball and to hell with everything else mentality.

The combination of Title IX with the fact that the majority of students in most colleges and universities are female and the 85-scholarship elephant sitting in the corner of the room (football) has killed non-revs for men and any chance of expanding non-revs for men without giving up one team to have another.

 

[All4SU]

The combination of Title IX with the fact that the majority of students in most colleges and universities are female and the 85-scholarship elephant sitting in the corner of the room (football) has killed non-revs for men and any chance of expanding non-revs for men without giving up one team to have another.

Yes, and that’s wrong.

 

[money3189]

Pretty obvious what Doug had to do.

 

[djorange1989]

Pretty obvious what Doug had to do.

Yep the only difference is that Doug didn’t have the portal to restock the roster like Deion has, or else Doug would have run off that many more kids. Both SU in 2009 and Colorado in 2023 were/are awful rosters.

 

[money3189]

Yep the only difference is that Doug didn’t have the portal to restock the roster like Deion has, or else Doug would have run off that many more kids. Both SU in 2009 and Colorado in 2023 were/are awful rosters.

Good point

 

[WoadBlue]

The combination of Title IX with the fact that the majority of students in most colleges and universities are female and the 85-scholarship elephant sitting in the corner of the room (football) has killed non-revs for men and any chance of expanding non-revs for men without giving up one team to have another.

Aint that the truth. In the pre Title IX days, even NCSU played lacrosse.

My understanding of how Title IX was ruining many men's non-revenue sports came with my much younger sister. She was a part time starter on a .500 soccer team in TN, which is not among the nation's hotbeds in girls HS soccer. She had multiple D2 soccer coaches offering her a scholarship to play soccer, and at least that many more lower level D1 soccer coaches offering her Preferred Walk On with enough guaranteed financial aid to make it equal to their soccer scholarships.

Schools beg girls to take scholarships - the law manufactures 'demand.

Meanwhile in the real work, Title IX has meant that many schools cut baseball or men's lacrosse or soccer or cross country or swimming, etc.

 

[kirbivore]

I'm sensing Dion is just a flashier version of Schiano and this team will crash and burn.

 

[orangepassion]

Pretty obvious what Doug had to do.

It was wrong then and wrong now. Where is that from?

 

[Xanadu]

I'm sensing Dion is just a flashier version of Schiano and this team will crash and burn.

What evidence do you posit to support this? Prime has Sean Lewis as an OC and a former CO-DC for Bama. He’s bringing in four and five stars. Highly unlikely they flop. Might be a tough year this year but they would 100% beat Rutgers even in year one

 

[money3189]

It was wrong then and wrong now. Where is that from?

We might not like it but they all do it. Coaches are going to flip the rosters as fast as they can. Even faster these days now that players are getting paid and they can lose their job within a few years.

Doug Marrone’s impact on Syracuse still felt despite abrupt departure 10 years ago

In four seasons with Syracuse, Doug Marrone rebuilt the program and formed a lasting impact that is still felt a decade later. SU finished 25-25 under Marrone with two bowl game wins.

dailyorange.com

 

[PAcuse]

 

[Domedog84]

It drives me nuts that we lose to him so much because he really is whiney dork.