Congressional action is coming towards collegiate athletics

[TexanMark]

While I was at Syracuse I bought a #39 football jersey, #1 football jersey, and #3 basketball jersey.

Why is it okay for the university to keep all that revenue and Walter Reyes, Damian Rhodes, and Gerry McNamara get nothing for jerseys sold because of them.

Larry Czonka is coming over to kick your ass.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Why do the families have to be helped out immediately?

Lot of guys come from poverty.

 

[javadoc]

Senators Announce Proposal for 'College Athletes Bill of Rights'

A group of U.S. senators plans to introduce in Congress “a college athletes bill of rights” seeking to guarantee NCAA players monetary compensation, long-term healthcare, lifetime educational scholarships and more eligibility freedoms.

www.si.com

Players are going to get more.
I expect a lot of non-revenue sports across the nation to get the axe.

I'm confused. What enumerated power grants the US Congress any authority over college athletics?

(I think I know what the professed reason will be, curious what folks think, though.)

 

[orangepassion]

you base your fandom on if they are compensated fairly and pick the one where they are getting an unequal cut of the pie?

what’s the difference between if they get paid or not to your fandom? Are you offended?

Why would I be offended? It will make recruiting very corrupt (even more than it currently is) and will be hard to attach to players if they're going from school to school every year. As to compensated fairly, you say it like it's a fact when it's actually a matter of opinion. Some believe a full scholarship and other benefits are fair compensation.
I would be open to them getting other benefits.

 

[Alsacs]

I'm confused. What enumerated power grants the US Congress any authority over college athletics?

(I think I know what the professed reason will be, curious what folks think, though.)

Commerce Clause.

College Athletics are interstate commerce. Thus Congress can get involved if they want too.

 

[TexanMark]

Lot of guys come from poverty.

And?

The school is providing a child a way to escape it. Long term view vs short term view

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I'm confused. What enumerated power grants the US Congress any authority over college athletics?

(I think I know what the professed reason will be, curious what folks think, though.)

Interstate Commerce.

 

[Bayside44]

“But what people don’t know — let me ask you,” Boeheim said. “How much does a basketball player get at Syracuse right now? What’s he get?”

I said $74,000, the rough cost of attendance at Syracuse that a scholarship would cover.

“In the neighborhood — that’s what you think, and that’s what everybody thinks,” Boeheim said. “But it’s not. Every one of our players — because we can feed them breakfast, they can go over to the snack area there and get a salad and wrap during the day, then we feed them after practice — every one of our players takes his board in cash and his cost of attendance. How much you think that is?”

I took a second to think. “Probably another…”

He finished the thought. “$1,400 a month.”

Boeheim said he didn’t realize players got that much until his son who plays for the team received the check.

“You get a check for $1,400 each month and you have to buy your food out of that. But we give you two or three meals a day. So, now, if you’re a needs student who I worry about more, you get a Pell Grant for $5,000. So now if you’re a needs student, you get $2,000 a month, plus your tuition.”

“Is there a specific place that’s supposed to go, the $2,000?” I asked.

“In your pocket,” he replied.

That surprised me. “Just for whatever you want?”

“For whatever you want,” Boeheim said.

 

[RF2044]

Legislatively speaking this goes nowhere.

Nor should it.

 

[Alsacs]

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Nor should it.

If/when Trump loses this bill will pass next Congress.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

And?

The school is providing a child a way to escape it. Long term view vs short term view

Doesn't help a guy who leaves for college while his parents are living in a hotel because they would otherwise be homeless. The guilt can be huge.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

Maybe what’s needed is an NFL development league for those who want a fast track to the NFL and require those attending college and playing ball to stay four years or pay back their scholarship if they jump to the nfl

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

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If/when Trump loses this bill will pass next Congress.

This will be lobbied into oblivion by the Conferences, ironically using money that could otherwise be used to pay the players.

 

[dan7800]

On this idea of "how many athletes would be accepted into these schools on their academic merits" question...

See, I always felt that it was a feature, not a bug, of American higher education, that students that weren't exceptional academically are granted opportunities to associate, network, and learn alongside traditionally academically gifted students because they brought talent of a different stripe (athletics, music, drama, other language expertise/world perspectives, etc.) to enrich the school community and enhance the pursuit of excellence of all different manifestations of human ability.

Maybe that's naive or too optimistic, but when people talk about diversity being desirable... this is all a part of it.

Agreed on this. We recently started a few programs with the sole intention of attracting diverse students. These programs are not designed to make any money (In a few years we will work to make sure that they don't lose too much money, but that is a problem for later on), and frankly 90%+ of the graduates won't find jobs based on their attained degree from these programs, but they help the school's numbers look better.

 

[Alsacs]

This will be lobbied into oblivion by the Conferences, ironically using money that could otherwise be used to pay the players.

I can find 10 Republicans who won’t waste time opposing and filibustering this and McConnell won’t waste his political capital “resisting” when their will be worse legislation for him to protest.

 

[RF2044]

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If/when Trump loses this bill will pass next Congress.

We'll see.

And for the record, everything the government touches -- no matter who is in charge -- goes askew. The last thing anyone should want is Congress meddling in collegiate athletics when there is so much else going wrong in the country. Seriously, why don't they focus on some more socially important matters, instead of horning in on something far less universally impactful?

 

[TexanMark]

I can find 10 Republicans who won’t waste time opposing and filibustering this and McConnell won’t waste his political capital “resisting” when their will be worse legislation for him to protest.

And we broke through...I knew we could not resist making it about Republicans

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I can find 10 Republicans who won’t waste time opposing and filibustering this and McConnell won’t waste his political capital “resisting” when their will be worse legislation for him to protest.

It would just die in committee.

 

[TexanMark]

It would just die in committee.

And it should...a lot more important issues to resolve IMHO

 

[Alsacs]

And we broke through...I knew we could not resist making it about Republicans

Mark the bill doesn’t have a Republican Congress-sponsor yet.
This bill is a Democratic one.
Rubio and Sasse are working on there own version.
Someone else said McConnell won’t allow it.
He isn’t going to have the iron grip on his caucus next Congress if they are minority and I see Murkowski, Ron Johnson; Pat Toomey, Sasse, Rubio and can find you more who will want to win their 2022 races to support this.

 

[TheCusian]

This is so ridiculous. Pac 12 and Big 10 are not playing this fall, how much $$ are they bringing in to the university? And yet they still get all the benefits of being a STUDENT athlete for free.

1 year for a select group of players during a once in a lifetime event - yeah seems fair

it’s systemic and it’s blatant enough it will change or die out. Instead of fighting for an old BS system we could be making the whole system work better

 

[Alsacs]

It would just die in committee.

Corey Booker will be the chairman of that committee if the Democrats win the majority and he won’t let that happen IMO since he is the main sponsor.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

And it should...a lot more important issues to resolve IMHO

Easy for a retired guy to say that combating growing income inequality isn't a very important issue.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Corey Booker will be the chairman of that committee if the Democrats win the majority and he won’t let that happen IMO since he is the main sponsor.

Didn't know that. Just incredibly cynical about both the NCAA and the power of lobbying.

 

[javadoc]

Commerce Clause.

College Athletics are interstate commerce. Thus Congress can get involved if they want too.

As I suspected. Excuse me while I go vomit.