Nicknack
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How would I know? There are tons of examples of people doing things that they're not good at. Red is just another example.Then why is he a head coach?
How would I know? There are tons of examples of people doing things that they're not good at. Red is just another example.Then why is he a head coach?
Do you know this, or is it your suspicion?
He didn’t decline entirely; he said not right now. I think there’s a difference in that he could still make it right.After our worst year in 45 years our head coach had a chance to speak the fans and declined.
He didn’t decline entirely; he said not right now. I think there’s a difference in that he could still make it right.
When is his next speaking engagement? Or post a video on social media.
It’d be so easy to follow up and answer the question, but I think he has to do that ASAP. I could understand it was right after a loss, he wasn’t thinking about next year, whatever spin he wants to put on it. Then answer the question with a spirited answer to officially close this season and look ahead to the portal and next year.
They can’t be that dumb that they don’t see they need to give fans something to be excited about sooner than later, can they?
Red knows his back is against the wall and he needs to find some way to assemble a competitive roster within the next 60 days to save his job next year.After our worst year in 45 years our head coach had a chance to speak the fans and declined.
After losing to DePaul for a 3rd time, Ed Cooley gave a passionate speech about how Sorber was overlooked by the other BE coaches and how this time next year will have a different Result and their time is coming.
I think Cooley is completely delusional but seeing how passionate and fired up he was was really night and day compared to Red. He seems like he’s still fighting. Red looks like he quit to me
Give Wildhack all the credit for taking the phone call and making the hire. From every account I have read, Fran Brown contacted Wildhack about the role. Fran came out of nowhere and it was not part of any plan to hire the next football coach. When he fired Dino, it was not like he had his successor hand picked.Fair. If the Fran search is any indication, it will be JW running things if it comes to that.
I don't think anyone was really "involved" when Red was hired. He just happened to be the guy sitting in the lucky chair when JB was pushed out.
I think with Men's Lacrosse the story is Gary went to Wildhack first and asked for the job. Like Fran. Re replacing Gary at Women's Lacrosse, he might have been looking externally but the story is the women's lacrosse alumni pressure him to take Kayla.Give Wildhack all the credit for taking the phone call and making the hire. From every account I have read, Fran Brown contacted Wildhack about the role. Fran came out of nowhere and it was not part of any plan to hire the next football coach. When he fired Dino, it was not like he had his successor hand picked.
At least he did a job search for football. Basketball and men's lacrosse, Wildhack went down the hall and picked someone from their offices and gave them a different job. I wouldn't say Wildhack has a lot of success in searching for head coaches. The majority off the top of my head are alumni. Even Women's lacrosse.
I went to Syracuse and know who my peers were and what we did at the time on the Hill. It wouldn't hurt to bring in some outside voices![]()
He didn’t decline entirely; he said not right now. I think there’s a difference in that he could still make it right.
When is his next speaking engagement? Or post a video on social media.
It’d be so easy to follow up and answer the question, but I think he has to do that ASAP. I could understand it was right after a loss, he wasn’t thinking about next year, whatever spin he wants to put on it. Then answer the question with a spirited answer to officially close this season and look ahead to the portal and next year.
They can’t be that dumb that they don’t see they need to give fans something to be excited about sooner than later, can they?
I’d be concerned that keeping Red might drive Kiyan away.Watching this season and how Red coached has to have been an eye opener for Kiyan and his dad.Im not sending my kid that has pro potential to some guy that seems to be clueless.Question. If not for Melos kid coming to SU would Red have been retained?
How many times does this need to be addressed? Kiyan is coming. He and his parents like Autry.I’d be concerned that keeping Red might drive Kiyan away.Watching this season and how Red coached has to have been an eye opener for Kiyan and his dad.Im not sending my kid that has pro potential to some guy that seems to be clueless.
Only an organization run by idiots lets a guy hold them hostage for years despite the obvious decline and then backs themselves into a corner to hire an unqualified candidate. To add insult to injury they give him a contract they can’t afford to get out of even though they were bidding against no one.I don't think there has been some grand conspiracy or anything.
Basically, people who are big fans of Boeheim spent 2017 through 2023 handwaving away the obvious decline of the program. It was a natural reaction to defend the guy that built a nationally relevant, title-winning program.
And JB gave them juuuust enough ammo for that defense... the 2018 and 2021 Sweet 16 runs. Plus, the sentiment that the legend gets to choose when he steps aside wasn't egregious in the abstract.
I will always contend that forcing Boeheim out in March of 2023 was predicated on installing Autry as head coach. There were a lot of folks -- boosters, former players, board members -- who would have been happy to let JB coach forever. I have zero doubt that JB would still be head coach as we speak if a few powers-that-be hadn't finally had enough two years ago this week. Red was the compromise. Boeheim leaves but we hire internally, the guy you all know and like.
It just hasn't worked out.
LMAO.Only an organization run by idiots lets a guy hold them hostage for years despite the obvious decline and then backs themselves into a corner to hire an unqualified candidate. To add insult to injury they give him a contract they can’t afford to get out of even though they were bidding against no one.
Everyone involved with this fiasco would have been axed if the were in any other industry other than inept academia.
And people had also been saying that Gerry was JB's preferred successor.People had been saying for a couple years prior to March 2023 that Autry was the successor. It wasn't a big secret.
We saw the same thing in how Gerry addressed the fans right after the last second loss. Trying to show the fans we are on an upward spiral and how he was going to fix the team.After our worst year in 45 years our head coach had a chance to speak the fans and declined.
After losing to DePaul for a 3rd time, Ed Cooley gave a passionate speech about how Sorber was overlooked by the other BE coaches and how this time next year will have a different Result and their time is coming.
I think Cooley is completely delusional but seeing how passionate and fired up he was was really night and day compared to Red. He seems like he’s still fighting. Red looks like he quit to me
Hope he’s not teaching him defense.How many times does this need to be addressed? Kiyan is coming. He and his parents like Autry.
Carmelo has also said that he basically coaches his kid. So I doubt he's worried about how the staff "develops" Kiyan. Dad's doing that on his own.
How many times does this need to be addressed? Kiyan is coming. He and his parents like Autry.
Carmelo has also said that he basically coaches his kid. So I doubt he's worried about how the staff "develops" Kiyan. Dad's doing that on his own.
This is exactly the reason why I think Donnie Freeman‘s and Choppa’s camp decided to have them sit out the rest of the season.I’d be concerned that keeping Red might drive Kiyan away.Watching this season and how Red coached has to have been an eye opener for Kiyan and his dad.Im not sending my kid that has pro potential to some guy that seems to be clueless.
"Throw money at the portal" appears to be his solution at this point.Guys, this could get very ugly. I really don’t see him pulling a series of rabbits out of his hat in the next two months. Seems he needs a miracle and that miracle is unlikely.
Do you know this, or is it your suspicion?
My belief is that JW wanted to hire Autry. Maybe not because he was the best candidate. But because he was good enough and he was the path of least chaos.
We don't have to worry about that, Red will not teach him defense anyway.Hope he’s not teaching him defense.
This ^^^^Hopefully they are clamoring for some staff upgrades and helping to make some changes internally. Melo has been pretty classy and professional throughout his career.
If he's working on things, he's doing it the right way.
Carmelo has also said that he basically coaches his kid. So I doubt he's worried about how the staff "develops" Kiyan. Dad's doing that on his own.
Good point and why Carmelo might not be too concerned. However, what Carmelo is not able to do is in game coaching and putting Kiyan in the rights spots with the right guys. We all saw how he handled substitutions and managed minutes for Choppa and Cuffe. That's what I'd be concerned about if I were Carmelo.