Defense

[Crusty]

To review where the D is nationally (ACC):
Total D 96 (10)
Scoring D 70 (8)
Passing D 107 (11)
Rushing D 70 (8)
Opp 3rd down conv 4 (2)
Opp long scrim 85 (13)
Opp Red Z TD% 53 (4)
Turnover Margin 4 (1)

Needless to say, we can do much better.

The TOs have made a huge difference. Our worst unit has been primarily responsible for this great stat.

We are great on 3rd down and not bad on red zone TDs but we get gashed far too often.

Are these stats a result of scheme or inexperience and recruiting needs?

Why are we so good at 3rd down? Dome noise?

Our point margin is 44 - 28 = 16 points. Is just out score opponents the plan and who really cares if the D is any better ?

I must admit if this works I can get used to it. We won't ever make CFP without better D but we will win a helluva lot of games.

(If I made any mistakes let me know and I will correct.)

Go Orange beat the Irish!

 

[Cuse1985]

You can win by outscoring opponents so long as you force turnovers. The old bend but dont break defense

 

[upperdeck]

but advanced stats have our D as top 25 and our O in the 60s

 

[Crusty]

but advanced stats have our D as top 25 and our O in the 60s

True. As you know, these are apples and oranges. One is a resume and the other an attempt at predictive value - with success usually measured against Las Vegas lines. Generally, they are accurate 51-54% of the time on average for the entire CFB betting field. I don't know how well they do against actual W-L, although it would probably have to better somewhat better. Results vary greatly from team to team.

The biggest weakness is they are of far less value for the first 7 weeks or so because they all use some preseason data in the early going. This is especially true for improving declining teams.

I think we are better than most of the teams ahead of us.

For me, the ultimate stat is points for and against. After all, that is the only thing that counts in the end. The other stats simply explain how a team got there.

 

[shu 49]

I do see us slowly becoming more aggressive with our defense. When we turn the corner and realize we should play d like we play o then we will always be in every game. I have stated this about a million times so nothing new. Just hope the coaches are at home going how can we get better, well this guy on this forum thinks we should be more aggressive. See positive thinking.

 

[AlexDaCuse]

Mr. Ward needs to continue to use the 4-3-4 defense. Having Cullen and Williams playing is beneficial, especially Cullen as he's deserved to continue to start with plays he's been making. Think Mr. Babers likes him as well.

 

[SoBristol]

The defense has experience, but only Cordy, Slayton, Whitner and Guthrie are seniors (add Fredrick as a Rs-Jr). Credit to the hard working bunch we have - going forward we need more talent to improve those stats.

 

[skurey]

Stop rushing 3 on 3rd and long and the D will continue to be good enough.

 

[PAcuse]

I think our D will be just fine. We've really focused on recruiting that side of the ball. Think Dino has said in the past just get a turnover or two and we can outscore the other team.
Now when it comes time for us to take our shots at Conference/National Titles we will need a much better D.

 

[Orangezoo]

I would say with the high number of possessions our D is solid. Lots of pressure on QB, turnover efficient and really good on third down. Pair that with excellent special teams play minus a couple blips here and there and those two aspects have been a huge part our success.

 

[shu 49]

Stop rushing 3 on 3rd and long and the D will continue to be good enough.

Hello drives me crazy.

 

[reedny]

Is Scoop healthy? He had to be helped off the field.

 

[Ish88888]

To review where the D is nationally (ACC):
Total D 96 (10)
Scoring D 70 (8)
Passing D 107 (11)
Rushing D 70 (8)
Opp 3rd down conv 4 (2)
Opp long scrim 85 (13)
Opp Red Z TD% 53 (4)
Turnover Margin 4 (1)

Needless to say, we can do much better.

The TOs have made a huge difference. Our worst unit has been primarily responsible for this great stat.

We are great on 3rd down and not bad on red zone TDs but we get gashed far too often.

Are these stats a result of scheme or inexperience and recruiting needs?

Why are we so good at 3rd down? Dome noise?

Our point margin is 44 - 28 = 16 points. Is just out score opponents the plan and who really cares if the D is any better ?

I must admit if this works I can get used to it. We won't ever make CFP without better D but we will win a helluva lot of games.

(If I made any mistakes let me know and I will correct.)

Go Orange beat the Irish![/QUOTE

To review where the D is nationally (ACC):
Total D 96 (10)
Scoring D 70 (8)
Passing D 107 (11)
Rushing D 70 (8)
Opp 3rd down conv 4 (2)
Opp long scrim 85 (13)
Opp Red Z TD% 53 (4)
Turnover Margin 4 (1)

Needless to say, we can do much better.

The TOs have made a huge difference. Our worst unit has been primarily responsible for this great stat.

We are great on 3rd down and not bad on red zone TDs but we get gashed far too often.

Are these stats a result of scheme or inexperience and recruiting needs?

Why are we so good at 3rd down? Dome noise?

Our point margin is 44 - 28 = 16 points. Is just out score opponents the plan and who really cares if the D is any better ?

I must admit if this works I can get used to it. We won't ever make CFP without better D but we will win a helluva lot of games.

(If I made any mistakes let me know and I will correct.)

Go Orange beat the Irish!

Yes, we are doing it despite our D. AGAIN, this has alot to do with the schedule just collapsing for us. We are good, but not top 20 good and its bc the schedule has parted for us. Our D STILL gives up chunks and tje O is anything but consistent. Our success is a bit uncanny.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Is Scoop healthy? He had to be helped off the field.

They showed him on the sideline with his arm in a sling.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Hello drives me crazy.

Yet out 3rd down d is 4th in the country if I am reading it correctly.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Yes, we are doing it despite our D. AGAIN, this has alot to do with the schedule just collapsing for us. We are good, but not top 20 good and its bc the schedule has parted for us. Our D STILL gives up chunks and tje O is anything but consistent. Our success is a bit uncanny.

Sorry but this d shut down Clemson until the last quarter and slowed down nc state and wake and Louisville... Pitt was really the only game they had a total collapse. Also you’re analysis doesn’t account for the amount of sub 2 minute drives the offense has put up. Yes thr d does give up chunk yards but generally it’s held up fine. Upgrade the talent and let the freshmen get some experience and the chunk yards start to go away. But the system is sound.

 

[shu 49]

Sorry but this d shut down Clemson until the last quarter and slowed down nc state and wake and Louisville... Pitt was really the only game they had a total collapse. Also you’re analysis doesn’t account for the amount of sub 2 minute drives the offense has put up. Yes thr d does give up chunk yards but generally it’s held up fine. Upgrade the talent and let the freshmen get some experience and the chunk yards start to go away. But the system is sound.

We still need more aggressiveness on run plays. We have been improving but it’s not a good defense. It’s an ok defense. We have the people and now we seem more downhill at lb and I don’t see foster taking bad angles as much we we are improving but good naaaa. Not yet.

 

[zona]

The Oranges D is very opportunistic. It does not have the depth that a Clemson has therefore the wear down in the 4th quarter. Key to a Syracuse victory over any top end team is the D to play well and get turnovers. They cannot depend on being an arena team last one to score wins.

 

[reedny]

They showed him on the sideline with his arm in a sling.

Oh boy. We're already thin there. Hopefully it's minor. BOL to his recovery.