Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[TexanMark]

Sidearm Sports, which runs 1,100 college websites from Syracuse, makes big move

Good story...I remember talking to Jeff on the phone over a decade ago to get my Internet game broadcast to work...he spent at least 20 mins with me on the phone.

 

[cuse10]

Dey's Plaza developers to build more apartments, seek more tax breaks

Why are they seeking public money when the demand for apartments in the area is at unprecedented levels with the rents to match? They'll make that money back no time with the amount of units they have.

 

[TexanMark]

Dey's Plaza developers to build more apartments, seek more tax breaks

Why are they seeking public money when the demand for apartments in the area is at unprecedented levels with the rents to match? They'll make that money back no time with the amount of units they have.

They are still taking a risk. Local politicians have been giving money for projects like this for years. You can argue the merits but the redevelopment of downtown is amazing. I hope the 4 burned down buildings in Little Italy can be turned into something good. The city has a once in a generation opportunity to combine the 4 plots and develop something really good for Little Italy.

 

[maxxyz]

. I hope the 4 burned down buildings in Little Italy can be turned into something good. The city has a once in a generation opportunity to combine the 4 plots and develop something really good for Little Italy.

Totally agree. As long as the project is not awarded to COR or a Congel, It's all good.

 

[cuse10]

They are still taking a risk. Local politicians have been giving money for projects like this for years. You can argue the merits but the redevelopment of downtown is amazing. I hope the 4 burned down buildings in Little Italy can be turned into something good. The city has a once in a generation opportunity to combine the 4 plots and develop something really good for Little Italy.

When is enough enough though? The city is one of the ten poorest in the nation and has infrastructure problems up the wazoo.

 

[dooey139]

They are still taking a risk. Local politicians have been giving money for projects like this for years. You can argue the merits but the redevelopment of downtown is amazing. I hope the 4 burned down buildings in Little Italy can be turned into something good. The city has a once in a generation opportunity to combine the 4 plots and develop something really good for Little Italy.

I bet developers are swarming those property owners...

 

[maxxyz]

I bet developers are swarming those property owners...

And the property is likely more valuable empty than with a building on it. And it used to be that, if a property was condemned due to disaster, the owners were not responsible for the demo and dump of materials, the city or county was. Not sure if that is still true.

 

[reedny]

And you care about the "public good" meaning when it is something that you like and are interested in.

98% of Syracusans could care less about the trail just like 98% of the area could care less about minor league baseball in a terribly located stadium that cost several millions of dollars.

I would like hard numbers of how many people use the trail before anyone spends another dollar on it. I am guessing that more people go to one concert at the AMP than actual people that use the trail in a year.

I'm not a Syracuse resident. But I can tell you that many communities in upstate NY - including Syracuse - are competing for businesses and jobs. They can't remain static and support their tax bases or retain residents without infrastructure investment. Trails are a actually huge drivers of tourism and quality of life, and many communities tout them as amenities (NYS also). "Not-one-dime-for-anything, ever" is not a recipe for success at any level of state or local government.

 

[CuseOnly]

I'm not a Syracuse resident. But I can tell you that many communities in upstate NY - including Syracuse - are competing for businesses and jobs. They can't remain static and support their tax bases or retain residents without infrastructure investment. Trails are a actually huge drivers of tourism and quality of life assets, and many communities tout them as amenities (NYS also). "Not-one-dime-for-anything, ever" is not a recipe for success at any level of state and local government.

So u consider trails a "HUGE" driver of tourism and they make a difference in quality of life?

I would consider many other things drivers of tourism.

Can u by any chance let me know the number of actual tourists that visit central ny for the purposes of biking or running on the trail? Or the number of people that decided to live in Syracuse because we have a kick ass trail?

I thought our population was declining across all of ny state. I dont think a trail is keeping anyone here or bringing anyone new to the state. Lower taxes maybe but not a trail.

 

[reedny]

So u consider trails a "HUGE" driver of tourism and they make a difference in quality of life?

I would consider many other things drivers of tourism.

Can u by any chance let me know the number of actual tourists that visit central ny for the purposes of biking or running on the trail? Or the number of people that decided to live in Syracuse because we have a kick ass trail?

I thought our population was declining across all of ny state. I dont think a trail is keeping anyone here or bringing anyone new to the state. Lower taxes maybe but not a trail.

Read this line again: "Not-one-dime-for-anything, ever" is not a recipe for success at any level of state or local government" Now repeat this: "maybe it's a good thing even if I don't like it".

 

[FrancoPizza]

How did it cost $64 million? Who pocketed that money? It is not a $64 million facility.

$64m doesn’t go as far as you think in 2018.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Newhouser]

This smells fishy - why would she make this move at this time?

 

[sutomcat]

Wow. Interesting. Ryan McMahon wasn't shy about getting in line to replace her.

Onondaga County lawmakers back chairman; first override of Joanie Mahoney since 2009

 

[GoSU96]

Bill Fisher is wicked smart. Smart to keep him in place.

 

[OttoMets]

Bill Fisher is wicked smart. Smart to keep him in place.

Absolutely. He's an immediate upgrade.

 

[juse5]

And you care about the "public good" meaning when it is something that you like and are interested in.

98% of Syracusans could care less about the trail just like 98% of the area could care less about minor league baseball in a terribly located stadium that cost several millions of dollars.

I would like hard numbers of how many people use the trail before anyone spends another dollar on it. I am guessing that more people go to one concert at the AMP than actual people that use the trail in a year.

Many people frequent that trail everyday.

 

[Newhouser]

Absolutely. He's an immediate upgrade.

Over who or what? Only had limited dealings with him but he comes across as a pompous expert ...on everything.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Trueblue25]

Relocation not renovation!!:vomit::vomit:

 

[OttoMets]

Over who or what? Only had limited dealings with him but he comes across as a pompous expert ...on everything.

Over Joanie, he's got a few better qualities than she has. A low bar, I know.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

That's got to be one of the flimsiest "agreements" ever so enthusiastically reported.

 

[Newhouser]

That's got to be one of the flimsiest "agreements" ever so enthusiastically reported.

I am in the minority I know but the county needs to look at this harder and I hope the state does too. I am not sure this investment makes sense.

 

[OttoMets]

I am in the minority I know but the county needs to look at this harder and I hope the state does too. I am not sure this investment makes sense.

I believe the state threw that "news" out yesterday to take a little attention away from the county executive.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Wow. Interesting. Ryan McMahon wasn't shy about getting in line to replace her.

Onondaga County lawmakers back chairman; first override of Joanie Mahoney since 2009

Interesting

Wow. Interesting. Ryan McMahon wasn't shy about getting in line to replace her.

Onondaga County lawmakers back chairman; first override of Joanie Mahoney since 2009

What makes the announcement even more interesting is that if she had resigned a week earlier or before, a special election would have been mandated. No special election to replace Onondaga County Exec Joanie Mahoney this year