Dino's Game 11 Press Conference | Wake

[BrooklynCuse]

The Yankees have plenty of pitchers.

But when Gerrit Cole isn't performing, you're not replacing him with Cole v2.0. You're bringing in Ron Marinaccio.

You're not replacing Shrader with a Shrader clone. You're replacing him with a 2nd year Freshman who's only played two career games.

I totally get it but could it have been any worse? Minimally you’d be saving Shrader from getting more hurt and resting him for the last two games

 

[JeremyCuse]

I’m fine with getting blown out once in awhile. I don’t want to see it but it’s football. Sometimes you just get your butt handed to your for no reason or just aren’t competitive. But he’s a career 4-5 win coach here. It’s year 7. Take out the gimme wins and things start to look really bad. Even if you throw the 1 Clemson win that people use to keep him here for a lifetime. Based on that reasoning Grob would have been extended. DB’s record is almost the same as Shafer with supposed better recruiting.

I said this two years ago after the COVID year debacle and its as true as ever today, there's a portion of the fanbase that has gone all in on Dino and is going down with the ship no matter what. W/L record, game outcomes, in game coaching, clock management disasters, 3rd set of assistants, all of it is explained away or dismissed. Can't say what the motivation is other then maybe they were so convinced he was the long term answer here they simply can't bring themselves to acknowledge its not working.

 

[FloridaFan]

The Yankees have plenty of pitchers.

But when Gerrit Cole isn't performing, you're not replacing him with Cole v2.0. You're bringing in Ron Marinaccio.

You're not replacing Shrader with a Shrader clone. You're replacing him with a 2nd year Freshman who's only played two career games.

If Cole is lobbing pitches dead center and getting hit against for 5 straight innings you don’t keep him in until the 8th in hopes it gets better

 

[ottodaorange]

First of all, this is the football board, not the Yankees board.

Secondly, a question that has lingered in me, since the beginning of this 4 game loss, is JaCobian Morgan?

During our 1-11 season he played after DeVito was replaced. He showed promise as a passer when he was a true freshman. I don't read everything here, but I don't recall seeing anything about JaCobian this season. Next year will probably have Justin Lamson as backup. This is JaCobian's third year and he hasn't seen the field since his freshman year. What harm is there in trying a more experienced QB if Schrader is a no go?

 

[PhatOrange]

What is most concerning is how exposed our coaching and game play is when our QB can no longer run the ball. We've shown over the last many years that when we don't have a quarterback who can bail the offense out by running, we really are a bad team. It started with Dungey and now Shrader.

If he could pass the ball the fact that he can't run wouldn't matter. But he was never a good passer.

 

[upperdeck]

so we are in game 11.. we have had 1 game we had no shot.. we lost 1 game we had a real good shot and 2 games came down to a drive in the 4th..

ALL this is a year where we were expected to win 4-5 games.

Not sure what else people can expect..

You think Wake is happy at 6-4 or NC st at 7-3 or UL at 6-4 or Miami at 5-5 or virg with 3 or VT with 2 wins All who most though would have much better years?

Or maybe we could be OK/WV/Baylor/Texas fans they also are way under performing..

The D has played fine , we need to figure out some play makers on offense and the Oline has to take it up another notch.. But the depth is light years ahead of most of the last 10 yrs.

 

[SoBristol]

Honestly, I expected 7 wins and a bowl, based on having stars in Shrader, Tucker, Bergeron, a great set of LBs (Thompson, Jones & Wax), excellent CBs in Williams & Chestnut, and some depth in the safety room. I believed our DC and Beck/Anae were a strong coaching unit, with an upgrade on offense. The DL was the obvious issue, with a drastic lack of size.

And it proved out (with injuries to Thompson, Lockett and Williams) for the first six games.

Now consider that we haven't recruited all that well. FSU has consistently brought in top 20 classes; in comparison our classes are rated in the 50s in our better years. We haven't done well in recruiting linemen. The contrast between SU and FSU in the lines -- well, you saw what happened.

So, we got pushed around by Pitt, when our RsF sub at QB looked overwhelmed and could not defend the run. And FSU was too physical and too good all around for our team to handle.

At 6 and 4, we have a chance at 7 wins, but it would take some drastic improvement by the offense. That offense has always depended on Shrader, Tucker and Gadsden -- a very limited set of skill players and a veteran line that is marginal in overall talent. Still, if 7 wins was a reasonable expectation, and you look at the entire body of work, where are we?

 

[kingtidge]

The Yankees have plenty of pitchers.

But when Gerrit Cole isn't performing, you're not replacing him with Cole v2.0. You're bringing in Ron Marinaccio.

You're not replacing Shrader with a Shrader clone. You're replacing him with a 2nd year Freshman who's only played two career games.

Shrader is a dual threat running QB that runs A LOT... This was the fear all along - that he’d get hurt running the ball.

If we don't have a competent backup QB in Dino year 7, that speaks for itself...

Also, Shrader has to play hurt to do what, exactly??

He was completely ineffective and the team was not competitive and was blown out.

If we can't play CDRW in that situation, then that's just another problem to add on the pile.

 

[P Vasiloff]

I see a coach who has taken full responsibility. That what my eyes see.


“Responsibility starts with me, we cannot continue to act that this is okay, it is not” - Dino Babers

And some clearly don’t want to see it. Somehow they want him to more accountable, to use less generalities.

Some folks just want to gripe to gripe even when their complaint has no basis.

He (Babers) has been saying the same thing for six out of the seven years he has been here. The one outlier was 2018. Every other year has been a penalty prone mid season lead into the annual November disaster. Other than one year his record is terrible. He complains about things that he is directly responsible for such as depth which directly relates to his lack of recruiting. He has had four offense coordinators in seven years. Lewis left for the head job at Kent St. but Lynch, Gilbert and now Anae and the offense is still horrible. I was a Babers supporter but the since 2019 I have seen what amounts to a Ground Hog Day Program that in my humble opinion will never be successful under his leadership. There is a good possibility that this team goes 6-7 after a 6-0 start. Syracuse University powers to be can’t see the forest through the trees and will eventually be left standing on the sidelines once the college football world realignment dust settles. Time for a change, only at Syracuse does he still have a job.

 

[Nicknack]

If he could pass the ball the fact that he can't run wouldn't matter. But he was never a good passer.

That was my point. Being able to improvise like Dungey did and a healthy Shrader does hides an inept offense (and/or the ability to throw a pass effectively).

 

[PhatOrange]

That was my point. Being able to improvise like Dungey did and a healthy Shrader does hides an inept offense (and/or the ability to throw a pass effectively).

I was agreeing with you.

 

[dollarbill44]

They ran Wilson out against Pitt and it was awful.

Still, it was better than Saturday.

 

[rrlbees]

Shrader is a dual threat running QB that runs A LOT... This was the fear all along - that he’d get hurt running the ball.

If we don't have a competent backup QB in Dino year 7, that speaks for itself...

Also, Shrader has to play hurt to do what, exactly??

He was completely ineffective and the team was not competitive and was blown out.

If we can't play CDRW in that situation, then that's just another problem to add on the pile.

His name is Lamson

 

[Cuse181]

Surprising/disappointing that still no one asked about Dino not taking a timeout in the end.

He talked about post game ircc

 

[Scooch]

Babers said the team went into “deep meetings” after the loss to FSU, but there won’t be a change in who calls plays.

Very surprised that no one has commented on this item.

This is the second time, maybe third, where Dino has alluded to internal contentiousness around play calling. Seems like a HUGE deal to me, because there really shouldn't be any issue here.

Anae is a long time OC, he should be calling the plays, period. That there is dissention, and determining who that dissention is coming from, is a gigantic problem for a team that has precious few playmakers.

It increasingly appears that something broke starting in the second half of the Clemson game when it comes to the offense. That we're now 3 games since that and there are still internal issues is pretty inexcusable. Dino is supposed to be the CEO here, and it sure sounds like he's not getting that part of his job done in this situation.

 

[PhatOrange]

Very surprised that no one has commented on this item.

This is the second time, maybe third, where Dino has alluded to internal contentiousness around play calling. Seems like a HUGE deal to me, because there really shouldn't be any issue here.

Anae is a long time OC, he should be calling the plays, period. That there is dissention, and determining who that dissention is coming from, is a gigantic problem for a team that has precious few playmakers.

It increasingly appears that something broke starting in the second half of the Clemson game when it comes to the offense. That we're now 3 games since that and there are still internal issues is pretty inexcusable. Dino is supposed to be the CEO here, and it sure sounds like he's not getting that part of his job done in this situation.

That was strange to me because you game plan together and the offensive assistants (and Head Coach) should all be on the same page with the offensive game plan going into a game. This would include the play groupings that are primarily going to be called to take advantage of weaknesses. So to say 'deep meetings' and play calling won't change is definitely a strange bird.

I'm wondering if it has to do with the ratio of run/pass or the down and distance stuff though. Anea has definitely called some strange plays vs down and distance for example and then there was the 5 carry game.

I get the feeling that whatever deal was worked out with Anea (complete autonomy) is coming back to bite DB if they're not on the same page with some offensive things as it's playing out.

But incomplete pass, to run for 1, to incomplete pass is just not getting it done and I think Anea's tendencies are really obvious at this point. Did anyone notice when we ran the little counter with Tucker where Shrader is the lead blocker it got blown up because FSU stayed home. Not that they knew it was coming but they were ready for it. We're super easy to game plan around right now.

 

[Millhouse]

Very surprised that no one has commented on this item.

This is the second time, maybe third, where Dino has alluded to internal contentiousness around play calling. Seems like a HUGE deal to me, because there really shouldn't be any issue here.

Anae is a long time OC, he should be calling the plays, period. That there is dissention, and determining who that dissention is coming from, is a gigantic problem for a team that has precious few playmakers.

It increasingly appears that something broke starting in the second half of the Clemson game when it comes to the offense. That we're now 3 games since that and there are still internal issues is pretty inexcusable. Dino is supposed to be the CEO here, and it sure sounds like he's not getting that part of his job done in this situation.

A lot of this would be solved with a guy who can throw the ball. If they can coexist then, I'm not too worried about strife during years where nothing will work anyway

 

[Chip]

Very surprised that no one has commented on this item.

This is the second time, maybe third, where Dino has alluded to internal contentiousness around play calling. Seems like a HUGE deal to me, because there really shouldn't be any issue here.

Anae is a long time OC, he should be calling the plays, period. That there is dissention, and determining who that dissention is coming from, is a gigantic problem for a team that has precious few playmakers.

It increasingly appears that something broke starting in the second half of the Clemson game when it comes to the offense. That we're now 3 games since that and there are still internal issues is pretty inexcusable. Dino is supposed to be the CEO here, and it sure sounds like he's not getting that part of his job done in this situation.

This is might be a dumb point to make (won't be my first or last), but I kinda hate that all the offensive coaches are on the sideline, and no one is up in the booth. Not sure if that has changed, but per an Emily article in late September, only the CB coach was up there.

Seems like someone should be seeing the whole field during the game, but what do I know.

 

[NineOneSeven]

That or the staff is aware that 50% of Shrader is currently a better option than 100% of CDRW.

Lol 6 completions!

 

[rrlbees]

Very surprised that no one has commented on this item.

This is the second time, maybe third, where Dino has alluded to internal contentiousness around play calling. Seems like a HUGE deal to me, because there really shouldn't be any issue here.

Anae is a long time OC, he should be calling the plays, period. That there is dissention, and determining who that dissention is coming from, is a gigantic problem for a team that has precious few playmakers.

It increasingly appears that something broke starting in the second half of the Clemson game when it comes to the offense. That we're now 3 games since that and there are still internal issues is pretty inexcusable. Dino is supposed to be the CEO here, and it sure sounds like he's not getting that part of his job done in this situation.

Who said Anae isn’t calling plays?

 

[DPCuse]

There is a real possibility that Shrader leaves after this year, leaving us with an inexperienced QB taking over. This past Saturday presented an opportunity early in the 3rd quarter to get CDRW some valuable experience that would not have changed the outcome but may pay dividends next year. That was my issue with not pulling Shrader earlier. Same with putting Allen in for Tucker. FSU had their second team in for at least a few drives down the stretch.

 

[Scooch]

Who said Anae isn’t calling plays?

No one, nor did my post suggest otherwise. Anae calls the plays, as far as we know.

Why did Dino talk about "deep meetings" and that there would be no change in who is calling plays? There is clearly some consternation internally re: the offense, as Dino talked about it publicly at least twice in press conferences now. And it's not just the lack of production, he's essentially been talking about the process.

Something is up, and has been for while now. I know because Dino said so.

 

[rrlbees]

No one, nor did my post suggest otherwise. Anae calls the plays, as far as we know.

Why did Dino talk about "deep meetings" and that there would be no change in who is calling plays? There is clearly some consternation internally re: the offense, as Dino talked about it publicly at least twice in press conferences now. And it's not just the lack of production, he's essentially been talking about the process.

Something is up, and has been for while now. I know because Dino said so.

I am not surprised at all that a team that has lost 4 in a row had some “deep” meetings to review everything they are doing.

 

[Scooch]

I am not surprised at all that a team that has lost 4 in a row had some “deep” meetings to review everything they are doing.

Sure, but they also did that after their first loss too.

 

[David321]

Very surprised that no one has commented on this item.

This is the second time, maybe third, where Dino has alluded to internal contentiousness around play calling. Seems like a HUGE deal to me, because there really shouldn't be any issue here.

Anae is a long time OC, he should be calling the plays, period. That there is dissention, and determining who that dissention is coming from, is a gigantic problem for a team that has precious few playmakers.

It increasingly appears that something broke starting in the second half of the Clemson game when it comes to the offense. That we're now 3 games since that and there are still internal issues is pretty inexcusable. Dino is supposed to be the CEO here, and it sure sounds like he's not getting that part of his job done in this situation.

Well this would explain why I stopped thinking Anae was an offensive guru since the second half of the Clemson game.