Do NOT expect an announcement tomorrow.

[cuseguy]

Exactly. We're trying to do this on the cheap. Again.

 

[rrlbees]

Then why didn't we offer a HC with experience first?

Because they must have thought Frost brought the best value? Did you or anyone else here want Frost? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth if you are.

 

[Statesman1]

They both had years of experience

This would underscore their preference to do this on the cheap-

 

[rrlbees]

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Damn, another good rant wasted.

 

[rrlbees]

This would underscore their preference to do this on the cheap-

So you're in the camp that thinks only current HC's should be offered open HC jobs.

 

[Ozcuse]

Because they must have thought Frost brought the best value? Did you or anyone else here want Frost? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth if you are.

I wanted an offense philosophy HC first, OC second, defense philosophy HC third, and a DC fourth.

 

[KellySyracuse]

people have just lost their minds over this. at first it was comical, now it's like taking a peek into an insane asylum...much like syracuse.com.

 

[Statesman1]

Interesting counter-leak. If true I wonder what the real holdup was?

 

[KellySyracuse]

Interesting counter-leak. If true I wonder what the real holdup was?

Frosty wanted a 2 year deal. Maybe temery can plaster McCallister's tweets up on the top of the website next to one of the banner ads.

 

[Toga]

Interesting counter-leak. If true I wonder what the real holdup was?

Makes me want to see UCF have another perfect season.

 

[Statesman1]

Frosty wanted a 2 year deal. Maybe temery can plaster McCallister's tweets up on the top of the website next to one of the banner ads.

Wow, if thats the case Frosty was obviously not a legit candidate. Two years is a joke-

 

[rocklloyd]

Tough concept to grasp I guess

Makes complete sense to me. Others are having trouble wrapping their heads around it.

 

[Orijinal]

Just offer $6 million with incentIves and get Urban Meyer.

This doesn't have to be complicated

 

[Deuga]

Things may have started to slow down a bit and Coyle may want to talk to a few of the coaches who can't speak until Saturday evening/Sunday morning. This is going to be fun!

It makes 100% sense for Coyle to wait. Ash can always be a fallback option, so no need to settle just yet. If he really has already settled on Ash, which I'm skeptical of, he would've missed the chance on a few other high profile guys.

This is no time to rush this decision. He missed out on his overwhelming #1, so now it's time to regroup. A few of the targets remain coaching in their conference championship games, so I think things will pick up heavy steam by the end of Sunday. Patience is a virtue. Especially now. Let's get the right guy, not the easiest guy.

K, good talk folks. Now back to bed...

Exactly. At this point, it's more important to get Mr. Right than to get Mr. Right Now.

Rushing in gains you a few days of recruiting before December 13th. After that we wait a month anyway. If we get Mr. Right the recruiting class for 2016 will be just fine.

At the risk of repeating myself, I'll say it again: Orgeron.

 

[DownTheField]

Just offer $6 million with incentIves and get Urban Meyer.

This doesn't have to be complicated

Ash and Meyer. Keep the gang together.

 

[CuseOnly]

yea shafer was only getting 263,000 from the school directly with img paying 1.2mil

What difference does it make. At the end of the day the coach could care less who signs the check.

If it's 1 mil from IMG and 800K from SU the compensation is still 1.8 total. Img would be paying that money to the school directly if it wasn't going directly to the coach, it eliminates a step.

Regardless of where the money is coming from, it still makes it into the coaches pocket.

 

[CuseOnly]

Interesting counter-leak. If true I wonder what the real holdup was?

Did you read the tweet, it clearly says "years" meaning length of the deal and he shows (1/2) meaning he wanted 1 or 2 years less than what we offered or he wanted a 1 or 2 year deal which any AD would have passed on.

Edit: Yes, I am an idiot and not on twitter, I was not aware that (1/2) meant 1 of 2 tweets.

I will continue my regularly scheduled meltdown regarding the SU football coaching hire that was already in progress.

 

[Moontan]

Did you read the tweet, it clearly says "years" meaning length of the deal and he shows (1/2) meaning he wanted 1 or 2 years less than what we offered or he wanted a 1 or 2 year deal which any AD would have passed on.

Actually (1/2) referred to the fact that this was the first of two tweets on the subject.

 

[CuseOnly]

Actually (1/2) referred to the fact that this was the first of two tweets on the subject.

Then I am clearly a moron, thought it was 1/2 years difference, I am obviously am not on twitter like the childrens of today.

 

[SmilinBob]

Rocco, did you wink when you wrote that...I'd swear I saw you wink. Something is going to be announced today you're just trying to calm down the masses...right? Keep expectations down, that's it isn't it?

 

[Rocco]

If we hire a coordinator, I think $1.8 mil is reasonable with a $2.5 mil assistant pool bucket.

If we hire a previous HC, I think $2.4-2.7 mil is bottom line with a similar assistant pool bucket as above.

Shameless bump. I've heard what the cushions were for Coyle to work with. $1.2 mil was clearly an error.

 

[Rocco]

Rocco, did you wink when you wrote that...I'd swear I saw you wink. Something is going to be announced today you're just trying to calm down the masses...right? Keep expectations down, that's it isn't it?

No I was being serious. And if I was winking, did I wink with my right or left eye?

 

[SmilinBob]

Right there...you did it again!!!!

It would have been nice if SU could have announced or introduced the HC at tonights game. I just hope they can get this right but I do understand the urgency when it comes to recruits.

 

[Rocco]

If Syracuse wants to play with the Big Boy's it's time to . . . . or get off the pot.If your looking for bargains than go on Ebay!!The longer you wait the less you have to pick from.This nickel & dime crap is Bull. . . . .!!!We are going to get left out in the cold again.I'm 77 years old and can't wait another 15 years for you to rise from the dead.!!!!Just Do It.!!!!!

I am saying this cautiously, very cautiously, but I think you will be pleasantly surprised when Coyle makes a hire. I really have no idea who that will be, but it makes ZERO sense for him to rush into the Ash hire with all of these other targets coaching through their respective conference championship games this weekend. If guys like Babers, Brohm and Montgomery, among others, all happen to say "no thanks", then he can use Ash as a fallback option. I don't think he is going anywhere, but who knows on that either.

My whole stance right now is that Coyle has the money to spend and can afford to wait until Sat night. Is the money going to be the same as a VT or Clemson? No way, but it will be far more competitive than what Shafer and Marrone were making. Another thing to remember is that the contracts are pure hearsay. As a private school, Syracuse does not have to release contract details. You can find out what the coach is making once they file their extended return, but that will be awhile from now.

I have blind faith in Coyle and the more and more I use hindsight, I am glad Frost didn't pull the trigger on us. His real intentions are quite obvious, so we dodged a bullet. I would like to see Coyle sign someone to a 5-6 year deal with heavy buyout options in the event of a poach. Enough of the 3 and 4 year tenures. Syracuse is very similar to Duke and the next coach will need at least 4 years to get the team where they need them to be. Just my opinion.

 

[Noexcuse]

I am saying this cautiously, very cautiously, but I think you will be pleasantly surprised when Coyle makes a hire. I really have no idea who that will be, but it makes ZERO sense for him to rush into the Ash hire with all of these other targets coaching through their respective conference championship games this weekend. If guys like Babers, Brohm and Montgomery, among others, all happen to say "no thanks", then he can use Ash as a fallback option. I don't think he is going anywhere, but who knows on that either.

My whole stance right now is that Coyle has the money to spend and can afford to wait until Sat night. Is the money going to be the same as a VT or Clemson? No way, but it will be far more competitive than what Shafer and Marrone were making. Another thing to remember is that the contracts are pure hearsay. As a private school, Syracuse does not have to release contract details. You can find out what the coach is making once they file their extended return, but that will be awhile from now.

I have blind faith in Coyle and the more and more I use hindsight, I am glad Frost didn't pull the trigger on us. His real intentions are quite obvious, so we dodged a bullet. I would like to see Coyle sign someone to a 5-6 year deal with heavy buyout options in the event of a poach. Enough of the 3 and 4 year tenures. Syracuse is very similar to Duke and the next coach will need at least 4 years to get the team where they need them to be. Just my opinion.

Makes perfect sense. But what happens if he targets someone who wins this weekend and has a bowl game to coach? Do we assume the new coach walks away from their team before their bowl or wait until January?