Do we as a school benefit more from an SU victory or an FSU National Title?

[Libero2]

I remember a story a few years ago, when Boise State was trying to run the table, and Nevada beat them, in doing so they (Nevada) cost their school over a million dollars in bonus for somebody in their conference making a BCS bowl. So essentially by Boise having gone to a BCS bowl every team in the conference gets a share of the media contracts for all the bowls combined, it was estimated each school would get an additional $1 million if Boise ran the table and made a BCS bowl.

So I ask, which benefits SU more? An SU victory and all it would do for recruiting to close out the year, or FSU going on to win a title, the ability for SU to play that recruiting pitch (The ACC can win titles!), and the financial gain?

Not that I think we will keep the game within 30, but I think it's an interesting question.

Edited for clarity.

 

[orangenirvana]

No offense, but that's not an interesting question. It's an incredibly dumb question.

 

[SmilinBob]

It is a conundrum no doubt. Just another reason why I hate the beauty pageant that is college football. If all FSU had to do was win the ACC and move on to a playoff, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

 

[Libero2]

No offense, but that's not an interesting question. It's an incredibly dumb question.

Why is it dumb to post a hypothetical question? No one thinks we will actually win the game (including myself) but i'm just curious which would benefit us more in terms of tangible benefits. Obviously the feeling of beating FSU would be immensely awesome, but once the feeling goes away do we still get the tangible bonuses of having FSU play for a National Title, and god willing win it as a conference member?

 

[FAL]

Staying within 30 would be over-achieving. Please, just not another ugly fiasco like the GT game.

 

[Kevind13]

Just be competitive. Going to a hostile environment and FSU is on a roll. It could be a long day. dont give up the big play.

 

[swish7]

At this point in time, we need to care for the individual. When we're done going 5(+1) & 6 and beat FAMU in Windermere's Weed-Beefer bowl, then we can wish for FSU to not be embarassed by Alabama in the NC.

Right now, it makes no sense to project any positive feelings about an FSU win. Think of the monetary value of the recruits gained. What would it be worth to the university to get recruits that can make us bowl eligible in the future?

 

[OrangePA]

Its a good question in my opinion.

We need the conference to succeed - to go to the NC and win it.

But we also need to beat a top team.

I can tell you one thing. I'll go crazy next Saturday if the gun sounds and we win the game.

 

['72 Orange]

SU obviously benefits more if we win at FSU. When we go after Fla recruits it would be nice to point out that we can play with the big dog in state as opposed to selling them - well we were competitive and only lost by 35!


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[TexanMark]

Us winning>>>than taking one for the conference.

Like most are thinking our chances of winning are slim but there is a chance. Let's worry about our own team first...I want no injuries for either team and a well played game...let the chips fall where they fall...time for Cuse fans to start thinking like fans of a big boy school again.

 

[chakka3421]

Us winning>>>than taking one for the conference.

Like most are thinking our chances of winning are slim but there is a chance. Let's worry about our own team first...I want no injuries for either team and a well played game...let the chips fall where they fall...time for Cuse fans to start thinking like fans of a big boy school again.

You play to win - always!

 

[orange79]

There is NO question. If we lose, fine. But SU benefits from an SU win, not a conference heart-warming Kum bay ya victory. In all deference to Lou_C , I hope we stomp FSU's title hopes into the D-C turf.

 

[rosconey]

like i said last week and the week before- su has fl st number-
bromley will eat that qb up and he will be out of the game by halftime

su by 14

 

[007]

No offense, but that's not an interesting question. It's an incredibly dumb question.

Stupid is as stupid does (posts). Does "no offense" have a positive correlation to that was "incredibly dumb"?

 

[Cuseroc]

Give me the win evertime. I dont care about threst of the ACC in that respect.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I remember a story a few years ago, when Boise State was trying to run the table, and Nevada beat them, in doing so they cost their school over a million dollars in bonus for somebody in their conference making a BCS bowl.

So I ask, which benefits SU more? An SU victory and all it would do for recruiting to close out the year, or FSU going on to win a title, the ability to play that recruiting pitch, and the financial gain?

Not that I think we will keep the game within 30, but I think it's an interesting question.

I read that title to the post and knew there were going to be some interesting responses. First off, we are not Boise State. They might need a million dollars, and not saying the Cuse doesn't, but the long term benefits of beating FSU down on their home turf far out weighs that money.

Secondly, think about all of the big games in Cuse history when the team won games that they had no business doing so. When it comes right down to it, there aren't more than a handful where we were double digit underdogs and won (cue SWC to provide that info). I'm not even sure what the point spread was in 1987 when we "upset" Penn State.

The third point is that the perception of Syracuse football is that we are still the red headed step child. We win this and people start to take notice. Very important to Coach Shafer and his program.

 

[Libero2]

I read that title to the post and knew there were going to be some interesting responses. First off, we are not Boise State. They might need a million dollars, and not saying the Cuse doesn't, but the long term benefits of beating FSU down on their home turf far out weighs that money.

Secondly, think about all of the big games in Cuse history when the team won games that they had no business doing so. When it comes right down to it, there aren't more than a handful where we were double digit underdogs and won (cue SWC to provide that info). I'm not even sure what the point spread was in 1987 when we "upset" Penn State.

The third point is that the perception of Syracuse football is that we are still the red headed step child. We win this and people start to take notice. Very important to Coach Shafer and his program.

No no you misunderstand Nevada cost themselves over a million dollars by beating Boise State. That was essentially the conference bonus for Boise making a BCS game. I'll change the wording to the original post to make it more clear. essentially what I am asking is this,

Is beating FSU going to be a bigger boon to recruiting than an additional million dollars (which I think would be higher since its not just a BCS game, but a National championship game, and particularly a win in said game per the hypothetical) would be for the program to use on whatever it so chose, while also being able to say, the ACC is the first conference in 5 years to win a title besides the SEC.

 

[OrangeDW]

I remember a story a few years ago, when Boise State was trying to run the table, and Nevada beat them, in doing so they cost their school over a million dollars in bonus for somebody in their conference making a BCS bowl.

So I ask, which benefits SU more? An SU victory and all it would do for recruiting to close out the year, or FSU going on to win a title, the ability to play that recruiting pitch, and the financial gain?

Not that I think we will keep the game within 30, but I think it's an interesting question.

Huh? Did Seton Hall, Rutgers, or Providence hoops get a big boost when we won the basketball championship?

We've got to do for self! Screw FSU and everyone else!

 

[AZOrange]

Huh? Did Seton Hall, Rutgers, or Providence hoops get a big boost when we won the basketball championship?

We've got to do for self! Screw FSU and everyone else!

Huh? Bama earned the SEC 23.6 million from the bcs championship last year. Comparing it to hoops is nonsensical.

 

[Libero2]

Huh? Did Seton Hall, Rutgers, or Providence hoops get a big boost when we won the basketball championship?

We've got to do for self! Screw FSU and everyone else!

well advertising revenue is very different for the two sports, most noticeably, football generates so much more income. But I believe the NCAA tournament divvies up the advertising revenue differently than the football revenue is divided up. its another reason why schools were desperate to realign in a power conference, even if they are perennial bottom feeders in a power conference, they are still entitled to big advertising bonuses at years end when the big-boys in the conference do well.

Obviously it's all hypothetical, as no one thinks we have a shot, I just wouldn't be surprised if the school loses a good chunk of change by beating FSU.

 

[Libero2]

Huh? Bama earned the SEC 23.6 million from the bcs championship last year. Comparing it to hoops is nonsensical.

short sweet to the point, and better said than what I tried to do. Well put.

 

[OrangeDW]

Huh? Bama earned the SEC 23.6 million from the bcs championship last year. Comparing it to hoops is nonsensical.

Ok...and there are still middle and bottom teams in the football leagues that have the program that win the NC. Did Washington St. get a big boost when USC had their run?

The SEC is kind've it's own monster, the ACC isn't going to suddenly become the SEC if FSU wins.

 

[rocklloyd]

I'll be satisfied (win or lose) if I read post-game comments from them that we were the hard hitting team they've seen all year.

 

[HtownOrange]

Syracuse wins from every Syracuse victory. Syracuse was put back on the big stage with the Dome victory over #1 Nebraska.

 

[OrangeDW]

Syracuse wins from every Syracuse victory. Syracuse was put back on the big stage with the Dome victory over #1 Nebraska.

You mean, Miami winning in 2001 didnt propell Syracuse to new heights?