Doc Gross leading the charge for ACC division realignment?

[omniorange]

This won't work because UVa and NC State both need to play UNC each year.

Here's what I've come up with. In this one, 9 teams get to stay put and only 5 teams have to move. I think it accomplishes what most are after. The 9 that stay put do not cause any changes on other teams' schedules and their schedules only change to pick up the moves by the other 5. Paired rivals are on the same line.

Atlantic Coastal
FSU Miami (they both keep their schedules)
Ga Tech Clemson (they swap schedules)
NC State UNC (they both keep their schedules)
Wake Duke (they both keep their schedules)
VPI UVa (VPI picks up UMd's schedule and UVa keeps its schedule)
BC SU (BC keeps its schedule and SU picks up VPI's schedule)
Louisville Pitt (Louisville picks up SU's schedule and Pitt keeps its schedule)

I think this is what Dr. Gross was looking for. It gives you a game in Miami every other year, and you get to keep your yearly games with Pitt and BC. It gives FSU a yearly game with Ga Tech (their closest neighbor). The UVa-VPI game becomes a paired rival game rather than a division game, same with SU-BC (which would have been the pairing without the Va governor's meddling in the original expansion). And Louisville gets to play Pitt each year for ownership of the Ohio River.

While I like that set-up personally, I still think TGD was talking about everyone getting a chance to play in the bigger markets rather than just us though. Especially considering his assertion that not all protected rivalry games need to be "protected". I could be wrong though. I have been in the past.

Cheers,
Neil

 

[orange79]

@FoeBoy_Cuse4: @ZiggySmalls_ @D1_Roberts they may restructure the ACC. To Us FSU Clem. UVA VT NC State

OK, pardon my ignorance, but can you tell me who these 3 Twitter handles represent?

 

[CUSU]

OK, pardon my ignorance, but can you tell me who these 3 Twitter handles represent?

Aj long, Zaire Franklin, Aaron Roberts

 

[Alsacs]

@FoeBoy_Cuse4: @ZiggySmalls_ @D1_Roberts they may restructure the ACC. To Us FSU Clem. UVA VT NC State

Not saying you are wrong, but this isn't going to happen. If the ACC realigns the Virginia schools will be in separate divisions just to balance the conference geography. I just don't see this division happening anyway as BOTH NC State and UVA have to play UNC every year. No way the ACC would screw that up or UVA might listen to the B1G. If you fliped UVA for Wake Forest then I believe this alignment. The ACC isn't going to put 3 NC in 1 division and leave NC State on an island.

 

[Millhouse]

All this stuff makes my head hurt. Division winners pick who they want in their division each year. See if they pick rivals or if they pick teams they think they can beat

 

[orange79]

Aj long, Zaire Franklin, Aaron Roberts

Thanks! I guess my question would be why would players know before anyone else?

 

[orange79]

All this stuff makes my head hurt. Division winners pick who they want in their division each year. See if they pick rivals or if they pick teams they think they can beat

Losers walk!

 

[gbo]

Not saying you are wrong, but this isn't going to happen. If the ACC realigns the Virginia schools will be in separate divisions just to balance the conference geography. I just don't see this division happening anyway as BOTH NC State and UVA have to play UNC every year. No way the ACC would screw that up or UVA might listen to the B1G. If you fliped UVA for Wake Forest then I believe this alignment. The ACC isn't going to put 3 NC in 1 division and leave NC State on an island.

They may if State is in a division with Clemson.

 

[Alsacs]

They may if State is in a division with Clemson.

The Textile Bowl can be saved without 3 NC schools in the other division. Plus, the whole point of realignment is to get Georgia Tech with Florida State and that alignment doesn't even do that.
That realignment was speculated by 3 Syracuse commits I doubt it is true.

 

[gbo]

The Textile Bowl can be saved without 3 NC schools in the other division. Plus, the whole point of realignment is to get Georgia Tech with Florida State and that alignment doesn't even do that.
That realignment was speculated by 3 Syracuse commits I doubt it is true.

Why do Tech and FSU need to be together?

 

[Alsacs]

Why do Tech and FSU need to be together?

FSU's closest ACC rival geographically is Georgia Tech, and they have tons of alumni in Atlanta. FSU had a rivalry growing with Tech when O'Leary left, and it has died because they don't play that often because of the divisional alignments. FSU wants 3 games annually Georgia Tech, Miami, Clemson and the ACC is trying to accommodate FSU and not destroy other teams rivalries that must be played.

 

[gbo]

FSU's closest ACC rival geographically is Georgia Tech, and they have tons of alumni in Atlanta. FSU had a rivalry growing with Tech when O'Leary left, and it has died because they don't play that often because of the divisional alignments. FSU wants 3 games annually Georgia Tech, Miami, Clemson and the ACC is trying to accommodate FSU and not destroy other teams rivalries that must be played.

So there really is conference realignment talks? That makes sense. I just never pictured FSU caring whether they played them or not.

 

[Alsacs]

So there really is conference realignment talks? That makes sense. I just never pictured FSU caring whether they played them or not.

Yes talks have been ongoing the past 2 years. Our AD Daryl Gross is working to get us aligned with Miami over Florida State. The Virginia schools need to be in separate divisions, but be protected rivals just to get the all schools into VA more. I don't think anything is close to happening, but I expect new divisional alignments in the near future and Florida State will get Georgia Tech in their division which is their number 1 asking point.

 

[All4SU]

FSU's closest ACC rival geographically is Georgia Tech, and they have tons of alumni in Atlanta. FSU had a rivalry growing with Tech when O'Leary left, and it has died because they don't play that often because of the divisional alignments. FSU wants 3 games annually Georgia Tech, Miami, Clemson and the ACC is trying to accommodate FSU and not destroy other teams rivalries that must be played.

How has it died already? It's only been one season. Maybe it's just on life support.

 

[Alsacs]

How has it died already? It's only been one season. Maybe it's just on life support.

They played every year from 1992 till 2003 when FSU joined the ACC. They have only played 3 times since 2003 when the ACC added VPI, Miami, BC 2008, 2009 and in the 2012 ACC Championship game. That is how it has died down. FSU wants to play Georgia Tech more frequently than 1 once every 6 years and would prefer annually.

 

[All4SU]

I agree with TGD. I would rather be aligned with Miami than with FSU. Not because FSU is good... they are. But because #1 I am more likely to travel to Miami than Tallahassee to see a game (selfish ass, I know); #2 we have at least SOME history with Miami; and, Miami is a private like us...more in common.

 

[Alsacs]

I agree with TGD. I would rather be aligned with Miami than with FSU. Not because FSU is good... they are. But because #1 I am more likely to travel to Miami than Tallahassee to see a game (selfish ass, I know); #2 we have at least SOME history with Miami; and, Miami is a private like us...more in common.

I agree I would prefer Miami over Florida State as well and not because FSU is so dominant, but we have played Miami more times, and have history and private school connection. I think we will end up with VPI, Miami, Pitt when the realigned divisions are ever announced.

 

[Chris02M]

I figure any changes to divisions will be in time for the 2015 season since I think its too late for this year

 

[Chris02M]

I am mainly open to any division changes but would like to play at least Miami and Virginia tech more frequently if we kept current alignment.

 

[Chris02M]

I agree I would prefer Miami over Florida State as well and not because FSU is so dominant, but we have played Miami more times, and have history and private school connection. I think we will end up with VPI, Miami, Pitt when the realigned divisions are ever announced.

with bc as crossover?

 

[weedsportwarriors]

I agree I would prefer Miami over Florida State as well and not because FSU is so dominant, but we have played Miami more times, and have history and private school connection. I think we will end up with VPI, Miami, Pitt when the realigned divisions are ever announced.

Plus McDonald Recruits better in Miami than Tallahassee. Playing a game in Miami every other year could go along way with recruiting.

 

[Madbiker]

They played every year from 1992 till 2003 when FSU joined the ACC. They have only played 3 times since 2003 when the ACC added VPI, Miami, BC 2008, 2009 and in the 2012 ACC Championship game. That is how it has died down. FSU wants to play Georgia Tech more frequently than 1 once every 6 years and would prefer annually.

Wouldn't it be easier to just swap GT into the Atlantic with FSU and move Louisville or SU to the Coastal rather than move everyone around in an all new set-up?

 

[CousCuse]

Maybe Notre Dame is coming in , I don't see how they can get into the 4 team playoff if they don't win a conference, or at least a division.

 

[Scooch]

Maybe Notre Dame is coming in , I don't see how they can get into the 4 team playoff if they don't win a conference, or at least a division.

Right, the selection committee would never look favorably on a Notre Dame team that, say, goes 11-1 and is ranked #3 in the polls.

:bat:

 

[CousCuse]

Right, the selection committee would never look favorably on a Notre Dame team that, say, goes 11-1 and is ranked #3 in the polls.

:bat:

Not if a power 5 team won a division and has 1 loss in a conference championship game.