Does "Bowl Eligible" mean Cuse will play in a bowl game?

[HastingsCuse]

Although I usually do not follow the bowl projection very closely, it looks there could be a lot of bowl eligible teams in the ACC. Right now 6 teams have 6 wins or more and are bowl eligible (FSU, Clemson, GTech, Vtech, Duke and Miami ) and 4 teams with 5 wins (Cuse, Md, Pitt and BC) and 1 team with 4 wins but playing well and with winnable games (NC with games against Pitt, Old Dominion and Duke). Pitt has the toughest schedule NC, Cuse and Miami)

So here are my questions for those who are smarter than me:

1) How many ACC teams will play in bowls? On the tie-in lists I only see the top 8 ACC playing in bowls. Does that mean 2-3 ACC teams may be bowl eligible but not get invited?

2) If there are ties in the standings (for example if NC and Cuse both end up 6-6) who or what determines who goes to a bowl? Does conference record come into play?

3) Could the bias against the northern schools come into play? (e.g. 5 teams end up 6-6 with Cuse, BC and Pitt out and Md and NC in)

4) If only 8 teams in the ACC will be invited to a bowl, it looks like Cuse will need to beat both BC and Pitt to get to 7-5 to go to a bowl. Correct? Pitt may be the more important game. If not you'll have BC who will likely be at least 7-5 (with games against Cuse, NC st and Md.) and Pitt, Md, NC, and Cuse at 6-6 and only 1 getting invited to a bowl.

 

[Timonen]

this almost always works itself out. there will be other conferences who can't fill their slots. Very few eligible BCS teams (particularly from top conferences) don't find a bowl.

 

[sabach]

Although I usually do not follow the bowl projection very closely, it looks there could be a lot of bowl eligible teams in the ACC. Right now 6 teams have 6 wins or more and are bowl eligible (FSU, Clemson, GTech, Vtech, Duke and Miami ) and 4 teams with 5 wins (Cuse, Md, Pitt and BC) and 1 team with 4 wins but playing well and with winnable games (NC with games against Pitt, Old Dominion and Duke). Pitt has the toughest schedule NC, Cuse and Miami)

So here are my questions for those who are smarter than me:

1) How many ACC teams will play in bowls? On the tie-in lists I only see the top 8 ACC playing in bowls. Does that mean 2-3 ACC teams may be bowl eligible but not get invited?

2) If there are ties in the standings (for example if NC and Cuse both end up 6-6) who or what determines who goes to a bowl? Does conference record come into play?

3) Could the bias against the northern schools come into play? (e.g. 5 teams end up 6-6 with Cuse, BC and Pitt out and Md and NC in)

4) If only 8 teams in the ACC will be invited to a bowl, it looks like Cuse will need to beat both BC and Pitt to get to 7-5 to go to a bowl. Correct? Pitt may be the more important game. If not you'll have BC who will likely be at least 7-5 (with games against Cuse, NC st and Md.) and Pitt, Md, NC, and Cuse at 6-6 and only 1 getting invited to a bowl.

There will be conferences that cannot fill their bowl allotment. An ACC team that is bowl eligible that cannot go to an ACC bowl because the ACC has too many bowl eligible teams will go there.
The bowls pick who they want after the BCS is filled. Bias always comes into play. Wait till next year when ND gets to play in the ACC bowls.

 

[690West]

this almost always works itself out. there will be other conferences who can't fill their slots. Very few eligible BCS teams (particularly from top conferences) don't find a bowl.

yup, thats why you see some sites projecting Cuse to places like the Poinsettia Bowl etc.

 

[dollarbill44]

4) If only 8 teams in the ACC will be invited to a bowl, it looks like Cuse will need to beat both BC and Pitt to get to 7-5 to go to a bowl. Correct? Pitt may be the more important game. If not you'll have BC who will likely be at least 7-5 (with games against Cuse, NC st and Md.) and Pitt, Md, NC, and Cuse at 6-6 and only 1 getting invited to a bowl.

If we beat both Pitt and BC, we will be 8-4.

 

[TexanMark]

There will be conferences that cannot fill their bowl allotment. An ACC team that is bowl eligible that cannot go to an ACC bowl because the ACC has too many bowl eligible teams will go there.
The bowls pick who they want after the BCS is filled. Bias always comes into play. Wait till next year when ND gets to play in the ACC bowls.

We want FSU and Clemson in BCS games...that'll give us one more bowl.

Also one caveat...if Cuse is 6-6 and looking to fill another conferences bowl game...IIRC if any 1A school has a 7 win or better record the bowl has to take them over Cuse. So a MAC/CUSA/Sunbelt school could grab a bowl from us. I haven't done the math yet to see if it is possible.

 

[Hoo's That]

One really good thing that has to be said about the ACC front office is that they work very hard to get decent bowl games for conference teams when we are "over our allotment". The list of bowls you find on the ACC site is the minimum number we're expected to fill. When we have more teams eligible than slots available, they really try to work with the non-ACC bowls that have empty slots to get an ACC team into them.

 

[FAL]

If we beat both Pitt and BC, we will be 8-4.

I saw what you did there!

 

[Lou_C]

Although I usually do not follow the bowl projection very closely, it looks there could be a lot of bowl eligible teams in the ACC. Right now 6 teams have 6 wins or more and are bowl eligible (FSU, Clemson, GTech, Vtech, Duke and Miami ) and 4 teams with 5 wins (Cuse, Md, Pitt and BC) and 1 team with 4 wins but playing well and with winnable games (NC with games against Pitt, Old Dominion and Duke). Pitt has the toughest schedule NC, Cuse and Miami)

So here are my questions for those who are smarter than me:

1) How many ACC teams will play in bowls? On the tie-in lists I only see the top 8 ACC playing in bowls. Does that mean 2-3 ACC teams may be bowl eligible but not get invited?

2) If there are ties in the standings (for example if NC and Cuse both end up 6-6) who or what determines who goes to a bowl? Does conference record come into play?

3) Could the bias against the northern schools come into play? (e.g. 5 teams end up 6-6 with Cuse, BC and Pitt out and Md and NC in)

4) If only 8 teams in the ACC will be invited to a bowl, it looks like Cuse will need to beat both BC and Pitt to get to 7-5 to go to a bowl. Correct? Pitt may be the more important game. If not you'll have BC who will likely be at least 7-5 (with games against Cuse, NC st and Md.) and Pitt, Md, NC, and Cuse at 6-6 and only 1 getting invited to a bowl.

Not to worry. I can't remember almost any bowl eligible team, let alone a major conference team, being left out. The only way teams usually get left out is from the minor conferences with few ties, and usually only when there is an alignment of unfortunate happenings. Last year 9-3 Louisiana Tech missed a game because Oklahoma shockingly got pushed out of a BCS game by N. Illinois, and they ended up grabbing the slot Louisiana Tech was expecting.

 

[Frozen]

Not to worry. I can't remember almost any bowl eligible team, let alone a major conference team, being left out. The only way teams usually get left out is from the minor conferences with few ties, and usually only when there is an alignment of unfortunate happenings. Last year 9-3 Louisiana Tech missed a game because Oklahoma shockingly got pushed out of a BCS game by N. Illinois, and they ended up grabbing the slot Louisiana Tech was expecting.

La Tech also turned down an invite, hoping for a bigger one. When the bigger one did not come, they were shut out of the original invite and had to stay home.

 

[RandygoCuse]

We want FSU and Clemson in BCS games...that'll give us one more bowl.

Also one caveat...if Cuse is 6-6 and looking to fill another conferences bowl game...IIRC if any 1A school has a 7 win or better record the bowl has to take them over Cuse. So a MAC/CUSA/Sunbelt school could grab a bowl from us. I haven't done the math yet to see if it is possible.

IIRC, before this rule was put in place, we got screwed quite a few years back. I think we finished 2nd in the Big East and VTech got to go to a better bowl (despite a worse place in the Big East standings)than we did.

 

[Whitey23]

schadenfreude

If Notre Dame does not qualify for a BCS bowl and each of the 10 FBSconferences fills its respective bowl openings, the Fighting Irish could be left without a bowl.

"We don't have something set," Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbricktold ESPN at the ACC's spring meetings.

 

[upperdeck]

thats one of reasons we need to get to 5-3 in the ACC so we can be placed ahead of 3 win acc teams and there could be several..

 

[sabach]

schadenfreude

It would have been better for SU for ND and Clemson to have gone to the BCS. ND being out of the BCS means that they will assuredly take the first spot open of the FCS conferences who do not have enough qualifiers. I don't think this will happen, but if there is only one spot open, ND will get it and a 6-6 SU and everyone else will be left out.

 

[dollarbill44]

It looks like there may be a shortage of bowl eligible teams again this year. There are currently 58 bowl-eligible teams and 14 teams with 5 wins (excluding PSU). There are 35 bowls. It is likely that a 6-6 SU makes a bowl, but it isn't quite a given.

 

[retro44]

We want FSU and Clemson in BCS games...that'll give us one more bowl.

Also one caveat...if Cuse is 6-6 and looking to fill another conferences bowl game...IIRC if any 1A school has a 7 win or better record the bowl has to take them over Cuse. So a MAC/CUSA/Sunbelt school could grab a bowl from us. I haven't done the math yet to see if it is possible.

I think I had heard this weekend 58 teams have made the cut so far

 

[storange]

95 % chance Did they not have to go to a 5-7 team one year.

 

[ImperialOrange]

125 D1 teams
35 bowls = 70 D1 teams needed
30 teams have already been UConn'd (ineligable)
58 teams have qualified
15 teams currently with 5 wins
13 4 win teams
only 3 win team with a punchers chance is SMU @ 3-5 w/ games v uconn, usf, houston, and UCF left. So they have to beat Houston or UCF.

I feel pretty good about making a bowl when we get to 6 wins.