Donnie Freeman injures foot

[Blanko97]

We have jumped the shark a bit. Everyone has panic warned everyone he isn’t his dad so much that they’re underrating him. He’d easily be the best shooter on this team. No doubt he needs to get stronger and better defensively. That said if he, Fennell and White are all starting then we will stink again anyway.

They said Elijah would be the best shooter on the team, they said bell would the best shooter on the team, they said Taylor was the best pure shooter they've seen in years, they said buddy wasn't going to be a starter. Ill take my chances ignoring the talent scouts around this program.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

JJ

 

[tptcuse]

I mean, you asked.

 

[dasher]

keeping a coach for a bench player, now ive heard it all

Who said anything like that? Not me.

 

[dasher]

This is going to sound funky but it is meant to be an honest question...

Do you think Dad is going to let him sit on the bench while Mom is in the stand with her celebrity friends? Wouldn't it be embarrassing for mom to invite Kim K to the game to watch her son sit the bench and play 10-15 minutes?

Dad isn't the coach. If he deserves to play, he will. If he doesn't, he won't. No matter who is visiting with his mom. And I will believe his mom will be sitting with famous friends in the middle of winter at Syracuse when I see it.

 

[Cusefan0307]

They said Elijah would be the best shooter on the team, they said bell would the best shooter on the team, they said Taylor was the best pure shooter they've seen in years, they said buddy wasn't going to be a starter. Ill take my chances ignoring the talent scouts around this program.

Kiyan is better than all of those guys out of HS. Moore isn’t the first freshman whos struggled.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If I remember correctly Moore was regarded as a better pure shooter coming out of high school compared to Anthony point is you don't know until they make the jump.

I don’t believe that or remember that for a second. Even if he was I don’t understand why people are ready to give up on him so quickly. We’ve had plenty of good players not ready as freshman. He’s not the problem this year.

 

[Blanko97]

Who said anything like that? Not me.

if hes sitting a lot it isn't because he's a starter

 

[Blanko97]

Kiyan is better than all of those guys out of HS. Moore isn’t the first freshman whos struggled.

you think he is better.

 

[Cusefan0307]

you think he is better.

Not just me. Every HS ranking service. His shooting stats against top competition is better than all of those guys to.

 

[Cuse2023]

Not just me. Every HS ranking service. His shooting stats against top competition is better than all of those guys to.

Do you have the stats to back that up? The stats I have show that isn't true.

He shot 32% from three last year on his high school team. He's shooting 25% so far this year and from the AAU stats listed he was at 27% percent over the summer.

 

[Fly Rodder]

they said Taylor was the best pure shooter they've seen in years,

Tangential to this, I was looking to see how some of our transfers are doing. Taylor has taken 4 threes and missed them this season. Not per game, not per 40, the whole season. He attempted 144 in his two seasons at SU. He went from a frosh hitting 39% to 30% to 0%. Just a stunning evolution.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Do you have the stats to back that up?

He shot 32% from three last year on his high school team. He's shooting 25% so far this year and from the AAU stats listed he was at 27% percent over the summer.

He shot 38% last year for Long Island Lutheran.

Long Island Lutheran Crusaders (NY) - 2023-24 HS Circuit - Roster - #3 - Kiyan Anthony - G

www.thecircuithoops.com

He shot 32% in the EYBL which IMO he was a ball hog.

Kiyan Anthony stats: How did Carmelo Anthony’s son perform throughout the EYBL circuit?

Kiyan Anthony, the son of former NBA All-Star Carmelo Anthony, has showcased remarkable talent and skill throughout the EYBL circuit.

www.sportskeeda.com

This year he’s missed most of the season. I think he’s played 4 games. He was pretty clearly the best player at the Hoophall Classic.

 

[Cuse2023]

He shot 38% last year for Long Island Lutheran.

Long Island Lutheran Crusaders (NY) - 2023-24 HS Circuit - Roster - #3 - Kiyan Anthony - G

www.thecircuithoops.com

He shot 32% in the EYBL which IMO he was a ball hog.

Kiyan Anthony stats: How did Carmelo Anthony’s son perform throughout the EYBL circuit?

Kiyan Anthony, the son of former NBA All-Star Carmelo Anthony, has showcased remarkable talent and skill throughout the EYBL circuit.

www.sportskeeda.com

This year he’s missed most of the season. I think he’s played 4 games. He was pretty clearly the best player at the Hoophall Classic.

Getting my stats from the official EYBL Scholastic website 2024-2025 Long Island Lutheran Men's Basketball - Overall Team Stats - Nike EYBL Scholastic

And the official EYBL AAU website Nike EYBL - Stats — Nike EYBL

I can also tell you from first hand experience working in the industry that "The Circuit" stats are not accurate.

 

[longtimefan]

I am pretty sure I read someplace that Estrella came back from injury then re-injured his foot and went out and had season-ending foot surgery. Not sure I would count on him to be our center but big men with foot problems seem to be our MO.

Not just a Syracuse problem:

See--Walton, Bill; Bowie, Sam; etal.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Getting my stats from the official EYBL Scholastic website 2024-2025 Long Island Lutheran Men's Basketball - Overall Team Stats - Nike EYBL Scholastic

And the official EYBL AAU website Nike EYBL - Stats — Nike EYBL

I can also tell you from first hand experience working in the industry that "The Circuit" stats are not accurate.

Shrug. Either is the EYBL site. 5 years ago it was great. It’s gone downhill and not updated nearly as much. LI Lutheran played more than 12 games last year. They were 23-3 and 10-3 in the NIBC. I suspect they want people to pay to get stats on other places.

 

[Cuse2023]

Shrug. Either is the EYBL site. 5 years ago it was great. It’s gone downhill and not updated nearly as much. LI Lutheran played more than 12 games last year. They were 23-3 and 10-3 in the NIBC.

12 league games, yes. I was providing stats against the "top competition" like you said. Regardless, Choppa's High School shooting stats were much better. Its impossible to know he would be the best shooter on this team by far when his stats now are pretty comparable.

 

[longtimefan]

2016 was 8 years ago. The last time SU was ranked during conference play was 2015. In that same time frame Loyola of Illinois had a final four, one fewer tournament appearances (10, 8, 11 seed compared to SU's 11, 8, 11, 10 seeds), and has been ranked during conference play more recently (2022).

Sweet 16s are great, but every game we played was as an underdog and we won a few with legit amazing shooting performances. In 2021, we shot 50% from three for the first two games (29/58) compared to a season average of 34% and then ran into a real defense and shot 21%.

"Real" defense? Sampson's Houston teams have had elite defenses for many seasons.

You can make a good point without resorting to hyperbole.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Getting my stats from the official EYBL Scholastic website 2024-2025 Long Island Lutheran Men's Basketball - Overall Team Stats - Nike EYBL Scholastic

And the official EYBL AAU website Nike EYBL - Stats — Nike EYBL

I can also tell you from first hand experience working in the industry that "The Circuit" stats are not accurate.

Wow. We have a good number of fans here hanging Red’s hat on Kiyan who statistically does not appear to be ‘the solution’ to any of our problems. He doesn’t even shoot a high percentage in high school? Is this just a small sample size Issue? If his name were Roman Kendall, would we be so jazzed about his arrival?

I‘m also kinda concerned about the expectation that The Anthony Family is going to buy a team around him. If they are so inclined, how much is the overpay to get good vets to come into this morass?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Wow. We have a good number of fans here hanging Red’s hat on Kiyan who statistically does not appear to be ‘the solution’ to any of our problems. He doesn’t even shoot a high percentage in high school? Is this just a small sample size Issue? If his name were Roman Kendall, would we be so jazzed about his arrival?

I‘m also kinda concerned about the expectation that The Anthony Family is going to buy a team around him. If they are so inclined, how much is the overpay to get good vets to come into this morass?

Cherry picking stats, but whatever.

 

[Cusefan0307]

12 league games, yes. I was providing stats against the "top competition" like you said. Regardless, Choppa's High School shooting stats were much better. It’s impossible to know he would be the best shooter on this team by far when his stats now are pretty comparable.

I still have yet to see an entire season worth of data in anything you’ve posted.

 

[Nicknack]

It does not matter if Kiyan can shoot in HS. This staff will make sure he cannot in college

In normal circumstances, I would think your post was ridiculous. However, it's kinda true (at least at this point).

 

[upperdeck]

NIL could also be a month to month / semester deal with a player and getting injured changes exposure so the contract is not renewed.

 

[oldpinepoint]

My gut feeling with zero inside sources is freeman leaves and Moore is 50/50. Honestly after this season it wouldn’t surprise me if they think the upside is higher somewhere else and they get out of here. It probably is to be honest so why would they stick around. We are only seeing games and have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. It could be even more of a dumpster fire than we know.

 

[Sherman20]

not rumors.

What have you heard?