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Donnie Freeman Injury Updates (Not Out)

721Comstock said:
Red man walking.
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nyucuse said:
Just means JW can get that ole rolodex process underway by Jan 1..

Let's not kid ourselves. That is what the program needs. Find the best, proven coach possible after a thorough and well planned search rather than kicking the can down the road for what, at best a 10 seed and hoping for 1 tourney win? Rip the damn bandaid off ASAP and prepare for the future.
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This is where I’m at.

Will I watch after tomorrow if they lose? Yea but mostly because i like some of the players and they can be entertaining. That alone is a step up for Autry, just having a watchable team which is a pretty sad state of affairs.

Crawling into the tourney won’t cut it. Even stealing one or two decent wins. They’re going to have to look like a dominant team in the ACC.
 
Dcuse said:
It would take the same lobotomy you have apparently had. Are you seriously denying the fact that free throw shooting and poor 3 point shooting has been the major issue for this team so far? Is that coaching?
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Absolutely not denying that. Let me introduce you to something called….

~~not being mutually exclusive~~
 
Dcuse said:
It would take the same lobotomy you have apparently had. Are you seriously denying the fact that free throw shooting and poor 3 point shooting has been the major issue for this team so far? Is that coaching?
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I’m in agreement with you but I also question on who is calling the plays. If the coaching staff are calling for the large number of 3pt shots or are the players just looking for the 3pt shots. I really do not see the players attacking the basket that much outside of steals that lead to breakaways and alley oops to Kyle and Sadiq. Very few plays are being called for give and gos/pick and rolls or shooting shots inside the 3 pt line.

We can see how poorly the players are on 3pt shooting and FT shooting. Kingz and Anthony need to demonstrate they can make 2pt shots first before heaving the large numbers of 3pt attempts.
 
Fly Rodder said:
How'd that work out for the Nets? McCullough played fewer NBA games (59) than anyone else drafted in the 2015 1st round except for the guy drafted immediately in front of him (RJ Hunter - 45). Brooklyn would have gotten a lot more bang for their buck taking shorter PFs like Montrez Harrell or Kevin Looney.

Irving arguably could have gone No. 1 overall out of HS if he was eligible for the draft. Overall he posted a stellar 32 PER in the 11 games he did play, he missed the middle of the season, coming back to play in the tourney. McCullough didn't return, only played a little better than average in more games, but tailed off quite a bit once the non-con was over.
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Just pointing out that it's happened before. Not an endorsement of either guy. Irving has been very good, but has also been a world-class jerk in the past.
 
Marsh01 said:
You would have to change the federal HIPAA laws. Good luck with that
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The NFL and other pro leagues have some specific rules for injury reports. College basketball and football are basically pro leagues. The difference is those leagues have a strong, centralized leadership vs. the NCAA, which seems to provide no leadership and cohesion.
 
Too bad that Donnie seems to be injury prone, based on the last 13-14 months anyway. Hurts his future earning potential. He is a talent too.
 
The best ability is availability.

I definitely won’t be in the “but we didn’t have Donnie” camp at all when explaining the failures of this season.


Also side note whenever we go to “so when is it on the players to play better” argument, I just laugh. Like what? I don’t even understand that. Why are we the only fanbase that does that lol. That was a big “thing” last szn.

Long story short, if a fanbase starts blaming the players and not the coach, just know the whole thing should be blown up. I’m learning from our past.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
This is not a well informed post and you’re talking out both sides of your mouth. We recruited fine this year. There’s just as many top 50 guys as we had 15 years ago and we signed transfers other power conference schools wanted while passing on guys performing better elsewhere. We friggin had a top 20 roster by just about every recruiting service. It’s all on the coaching.
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This was no better than a 20-win team with Freeman healthy. We needed to win at least a game in Vegas. But that door closed when Freeman went down. Houston was our best chance to steal a win. You’re right, we have talent, as I noted, but we’re also not as talented as the teams we faced in Vegas or Tennessee. Kyle didn’t play for UCLA last year. He averaged 3 ppg. Betsey didn’t play for Cincy.
 
cuseguy said:
This was no better than a 20-win team with Freeman healthy. We needed to win at least a game in Vegas. But that door closed when Freeman went down. Houston was our best chance to steal a win. You’re right, we have talent, as I noted, but we’re also not as talented as the teams we faced in Vegas or Tennessee. Kyle didn’t play for UCLA last year. He averaged 3 ppg. Betsey didn’t play for Cincy.
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With the right coaching there’s enough talent to win 23-24 games here. Kyle only didn’t play at UCLA because Cronin would rather play small ball and Betsey is hardly the first freshman to barely play. He was still the 45th ranked recruit in last year’s class.

If you’re saying there was only enough talent to win the same amount of games as when Girard and Buddy were on the team I think you’re just making a lazy assumption based on the past 10 years.
 
If Donnie is out for the season or extended amount of time. Good chance he comes back next year. Depending on who the coach is, we could have a core of George, Anthony, Sadiq and Freeman coming back. That’s a hell of a core but have to finish out the season first. I hope Red makes me eat my crow and we go to the sweet 16 or something. But if we go 0-4 in this stretch….idk it’s tough. We have 100000% looked better than last year (minus the Iowa state game). But we are Syracuse we can’t be settling for moral victories. We need to win these games and have a coach that can win these games. I wholeheartedly believe we have the talent on the team this year to make a sweet 16 run. But I think our coaching is bottom 5 in the conference if I’m being completely honest
 
CuseMan4 said:
If Donnie is out for the season or extended amount of time. Good chance he comes back next year. Depending on who the coach is, we could have a core of George, Anthony, Sadiq and Freeman coming back.
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If Donnie is out for the year and coming back next year, it better be for way less than the rumored 1.5mil he got this year. Also, I have a hard time seeing us keeping both Freeman and White.
 
I'm frustrated that we have no idea what is going on with Donnie. There are plenty of other programs that give an idea of how long a player will be out. The privacy stuff is a red herring. Given our history with Donnie and others, we have no idea when and if he will be back. Being a fan of this program is so frustrating.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
With the right coaching there’s enough talent to win 23-24 games here. Kyle only didn’t play at UCLA because Cronin would rather play small ball and Betsey is hardly the first freshman to barely play. He was still the 45th ranked recruit in last year’s class.

If you’re saying there was only enough talent to win the same amount of games as when Girard and Buddy were on the team I think you’re just making a lazy assumption based on the past 10 years.
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I get it, You, like some others, donn think Autry can coach. He won 20 games his first year coming off the end of the Boeheim era. Last year he was handed a weak roster due to limited NIL funds and coached half of the year without his heralded freshman. We’ll never know what would have happened in Vegas if Freeman was healthy. So I can’t judge Red until I see him play with a full deck. Folks who think he won’t be back next year if SU misses the tourney (likely at this point) are sadly mistaken.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
With the right coaching there’s enough talent to win 23-24 games here. Kyle only didn’t play at UCLA because Cronin would rather play small ball and Betsey is hardly the first freshman to barely play. He was still the 45th ranked recruit in last year’s class.

If you’re saying there was only enough talent to win the same amount of games as when Girard and Buddy were on the team I think you’re just making a lazy assumption based on the past 10 years.
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I’m at the point where I don’t think the endless “talent” discussion here even matters.

Either this team is talented and not winning is a reflection on the coach.

Or the team isn’t talented and not winning is a reflection on the coach.

Either way, we need to win. Now. And all season from here out.
 
Scooch said:
I’m at the point where I don’t think the endless “talent” discussion here even matters.

Either this team is talented and not winning is a reflection on the coach.

Or the team isn’t talented and not winning is a reflection on the coach.

Either way, we need to win. Now. And all season from here out.
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Agreed. Sick of the excuses. Kansas won without their star and they have a guard who starts for them that we wouldn’t even look at because we thought we had better options. I get Red is no Bill Self, but c’mon.
 

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