Duke Postgame Thread

[Sammy407]

He is going to start next week, whether you like it or not,

It's a 5 month season, and you have to develop players, not just replace them.

And you don't throw them away after 1 game. There is a locker room of young men who make up this team. That's not what these coaches stand for.

None of these guys are disposable - to the coaches, or to each other. These guys, most of them, are friends. You pull for each other. You are all trying to get better.

He had 2 years at LSU to develop under Brian Kelly and all summer to learn the offense, he's just a bad QB, plain and simple.

 

[Scooch]

Two questions:

1. Don't you really need it to be more like at least 8 yards per attempt to be considered good?

2. How many of the second half yards were due to Duke playing soft so that they could just keep the clock going and not give up something stupid deep? I'm not trying to be contrary. I actually didn't watch the second half. If the offense was that much better, shouldn't we have scored?

I just looked and Collins had 53 passing yards on the last drive that ended at the 2 on 4th down. When Duke was up 38-3. None of his second half stats are meaningful.

 

[Newhouser]

After the first pick and watching their O tear us up, I would have told Willis to strap it up you're getting it 45 times and we are going on every 4th down.

 

[bothsocksup]

Everyone chill out. It was a crap game. No flow, the turnovers all killed promising drives. Collins throws a good ball, it’ll take him time for things to slow down a little. The defense is lacking playmakers and they get exposed. The key to our defense is the offense. It’s been that way for two years now. Give Collins a minute to figure things out and let’s see how it plays out

 

[PAcuse]

I just can’t agree with your analogy. Last year LeQuint Allen was a Dino guy. Trebor Pena was a Dino guy. Oronde Gadsden, Darrell Gill, Dan Villari, Justin Baron, Marlowe Wax, Alijah Clark, Jayden Bellamy, Derek McDonald, Jack Stonehouse… all Dino recruits. That’s not just one good knife in a dilapidated kitchen.

Now, Fran’s hiring kept most of them at SU when I suspect most would have bolted had Dino been retained. And of course he brought in McCord who was by farrrrr the biggest reason we won 10 games last year.

I’m not criticizing Fran at all. He nailed it. But the cupboard was not bare. He had a lot to work with, and added some great guys to take that over the top.

This wasn’t Marrone taking over for Robinson.

Fair enough — there were some quality ingredients left from Dino’s time. But ingredients aren’t a meal. Fran still had to keep them from transferring, plug holes, install a new system, and rebuild depth. That’s a rebuild, even if it’s not as bleak as Marrone/Robinson (Marrone also inherited some great players from Robinson).

 

[UpstateSM]

In honor of the boys' performance today I am going to throw up on my shoes before the end of this open bar reception

 

[Cusefan78]

Not sure why so much of the conversation is about the defense. Duke’s offense is good, they were going to put up points.

The problem here is the inability for Rickie to produce winning plays. This is was an offense whose lowest point total in was game was 26 pts under Angeli. Rickie couldn’t lead the team to a single touchdown against a mediocre to bad Duke defense.

The completions that Rickie threw, even the easy ones, were often off target and off time. He does not process quickly and doesn’t see the field well. He throws a lot of balls that are going to get guys crushed. We have to make some major changes in the offense if we’re going to stick with Rickie.

Poor cook got killed today because of the inaccurate passes

 

[VA Citrus]

Willis always looks good. How does he never end up with 20 carries? Can't we just get him the ball five straight times to wear out a defense?