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I think that’s a fair assessment. Maybe we go 3-1 OOC and win 2 ACC games. Still 5-7. I’d love to and think we need at least 6 but I think it’s easy for most people to say we’ll win 2-4. Picking us to win 5 is more than fair.

I’m convinced the players can compete/win against most of the ACC. I’m not convinced the coaching staff can put them in a position to do so.
 
We almost had BC last year with our 3rd QB and a makeshift OL (though it was better by then)

I think it’s lazy takes. They *always* shade towards the previous years results because it feels safe and is harder to go out on a limb and predict anything different
 

Can’t wait for OiG’s comment for ESPN.
They have us losing to Liberty and Rutgers and all 8 ACC games.

2-10
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I didn’t read it. No clicks for you, ESPN! This is one for our team!
 
No way we start 4-0 then only get 1 W against those 7 mediocre ACC teams.
Those teams have a mix of good QBs and senior experience, those gAmes are going to be dog fights.
 
So hear me out.

It would be better to go 2 and 10 than 5 and 7, especially if we go undefeated OOC and then only win 1 ACC game.

With 2 wins, we know we're making a change.

At 5 and 7, it gets really muddy. 5 wins looks like improvement. But if after rolling through the OOC we can only muster 1 ACC win we're failing to compete against our peer group. There's legitimately nothing else we can do schedule wise to better position ourselves for a bowl. Nothing. So we would need to improve some other way. Where would it come from?
 
I agree-Liberty is probably better than 1/2 the ACC teams we play
how good was liberty last yr.. 10-1 good

or a team that was a play away from starting 0-2 to WKU and FL International and losing to VT and CC

throw out the games vs NAla UL Mon and Mass and W Car

so 7 games against teams that had a shot they finish 6-1 and could just as easily been 2-5. Most teams dont go 4-1 in toss up games but they did and thats great for them but if they go 2-3 in those 5 and finish 8-3 with that schedule no one talking them up.

they could win by 20 vs SU again too. they have a real good shot of being 9-0 going to play Ole Miss though if they play well again.
 
So hear me out.

It would be better to go 2 and 10 than 5 and 7, especially if we go undefeated OOC and then only win 1 ACC game.

With 2 wins, we know we're making a change.

At 5 and 7, it gets really muddy. 5 wins looks like improvement. But if after rolling through the OOC we can only muster 1 ACC win we're failing to compete against our peer group. There's legitimately nothing else we can do schedule wise to better position ourselves for a bowl. Nothing. So we would need to improve some other way. Where would it come from?
I think this is interesting - I think we go 2-2 and then win 1 or 2 in the ACC - do we keep Dino at 4-8 or 5-7. As you said that is very muddy.
 
I honestly don’t know what to expect, I think 2-10 is possible, but so is 7-5, although less likely IMO. I figure we stand anywhere in 3-5 win category if I look at this objectively. The Cuse fan in me says 6-6, I’m very interested to see how we look against Ohio and Rutgers
 
I honestly don’t know what to expect, I think 2-10 is possible, but so is 7-5, although less likely IMO. I figure we stand anywhere in 3-5 win category if I look at this objectively. The Cuse fan in me says 6-6, I’m very interested to see how we look against Ohio and Rutgers
We’re gonna have a really good idea Sunday morning.

We should look impressive against Ohio. Always going to have some first game mistakes, but what’s the majority look like?

Are we moving the ball on offense and finding ways to score, especially in the RZ? Is the defense making it tough on Ohio? 3rd and longs, short drives and winning the TO battle? Are ST’s operating efficiently?

If we look like a functional football team, I think we’re on our way. If we really struggle, scrape and claw, I’ll be guarded.

We should win convincingly against this opponent.

I know this, I’m really excited for the season to start. I’ve been spending about 4 hours a day here this week. As always, 100% invested.
 
We’re gonna have a really good idea Sunday morning.

We should look impressive against Ohio. Always going to have some first game mistakes, but what’s the majority look like?

Are we moving the ball on offense and finding ways to score, especially in the RZ? Is the defense making it tough on Ohio? 3rd and longs, short drives and winning the TO battle? Are ST’s operating efficiently?

If we look like a functional football team, I think we’re on our way. If we really struggle, scrape and claw, I’ll be guarded.

We should win convincingly against this opponent.

I know this, I’m really excited for the season to start. I’ve been spending about 4 hours a day here this week. As always, 100% invested.
What if we have a 2019 Liberty like game? Win easily, the D looks good, O struggles a bit?
 
Then we're going to have a rough season.
Or it becomes the shrader show quickly. If the offense can’t produce traditional ways, the staff needs to turn to a running qb IMO.
 
What if we have a 2019 Liberty like game? Win easily, the D looks good, O struggles a bit?
What if the carrier dome collapses? Logic infers that if we look presentable it should translate. If I knew 100% of the time I’d be a very rich man.
 
What if the carrier dome collapses? Logic infers that if we look presentable it should translate. If I knew 100% of the time I’d be a very rich man.
My point was that game was somewhat presentable. We won by 24 points on the road against a team some people put us on upset alert for. We ran for nearly 200 yards, but TD had a bad game. If we beat Ohio by 24 points and run the ball well, most people will be surprised given how bad we have been the last 2 seasons.

We won't have a good idea about how the season will go outside of knowing we need a QB change. Plus we have no clue how good, bad, decent Ohio is. Even if we win 44-0 and TD looks good we won't know much till after Rutgers.
 
My point was that game was somewhat presentable. We won by 24 points on the road against a team some people put us on upset alert for. We ran for nearly 200 yards, but TD had a bad game. If we beat Ohio by 24 points and run the ball well, most people will be surprised given how bad we have been the last 2 seasons.

We won't have a good idea about how the season will go outside of knowing we need a QB change. Plus we have no clue how good, bad, decent Ohio is. Even if we win 44-0 and TD looks good we won't know much till after Rutgers.
Well - you’re correct in we won’t know for certain.

We never will without more data. Ofcourse I’ll have a better idea about the team after each subsequent game. Law of large numbers indicates that the more data you have, the more reliable your predictions/calculations.

My point is that we’ll simply have a pretty good idea about this team’s capabilities after this game. Which I stand behind. If we struggle, it’s problematic. If we roll, it’s a pretty good indication we can play football.

There’s always variables and outliers.
 
Or it becomes the shrader show quickly. If the offense can’t produce traditional ways, the staff needs to turn to a running qb IMO.
Even if it becomes the Shrader show quickly, the odds of a rough season are high.

Paths to a bowl are unlikely unless we start 3 and 0.
 
Well - you’re correct in we won’t know for certain.

We never will without more data. Ofcourse I’ll have a better idea about the team after each subsequent game. Law of large numbers indicates that the more data you have, the more reliable your predictions/calculations.

My point is that we’ll simply have a pretty good idea about this team’s capabilities after this game. Which I stand behind. If we struggle, it’s problematic. If we roll, it’s a pretty good indication we can play football.

There’s alwaiys variables and outliers.
Yes, more data is always useful, but we'll know all we really need to know after this game. The stuff about huge improvements from game one to game two is just so much coach-speak. If Devito is running for his life, forget this season. If 3rd down and 2 is not easily made on the ground, forget this season. In short, it comes down to the OL being able to impose its will, not all the time, but consistently. If it can, that means the offense can sustain drives. If it can, that means the defense is not constantly on the filed getting gassed.
 

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