Evan Miyakawa Transfer Portal Rankings

[Cusefan0307]

Shelton Henderson 5 star from Texas. He was a Duke commit, but he followed Lucas to Miami.

Evans can be very good, but he hasn't been consistent. Foster got pushed to the bench, and wasn't much of a factor the last 20 games. Ngongba is a stud, assuming he has fully recovered from the injury that cost him his last season of high school. I don't know enough about Harris to comment.

I assumed you meant someone on their roster. All I am saying is they are 76th because they have more current guys on their roster than other teams.

 

[Niastri]

But then you would have to add in the other teams' returning players too, not just ours.

That where the “Overall Transfer Activity Rank” column comes in.

Nobody would be as enthusiastic as we are about our team if we lost Freeman and Starling.

Yet, as good as our incoming transfers are, the two guys that stayed will be at least top 3 amongst our players next year. I’ll debate the importance of George and Starling, but Freeman is clearly our most anticipated player next year.

Hence, we are ranked (by this method) as 38th in our transfer recruits, but 24th in our net transfer activity.

Look at Miami, 6th and 5th, respectively. They must have gotten a ton of good players, and kept their own best player. Virginia, on the other hand was 17 and 336. They got a great haul of transfers in, but Maya liked the ones that left even more!

Back to Syracuse, if you add in our solid recruiting class, it’s not surprising people are anticipating a good season.

 

[Sbucketball]

That where the “Overall Transfer Activity Rank” column comes in.

Nobody would be as enthusiastic as we are about our team if we lost Freeman and Starling.

Yet, as good as our incoming transfers are, the two guys that stayed will be at least top 3 amongst our players next year. I’ll debate the importance of George and Starling, but Freeman is clearly our most anticipated player next year.

Hence, we are ranked (by this method) as 38th in our transfer recruits, but 24th in our net transfer activity.

Look at Miami, 6th and 5th, respectively. They must have gotten a ton of good players, and kept their own best player. Virginia, on the other hand was 17 and 336. They got a great haul of transfers in, but Maya liked the ones that left even more!

Back to Syracuse, if you add in our solid recruiting class, it’s not surprising people are anticipating a good season.

Thanks for the response. Are you saying Net Transfer Activity considers who we retained from last year's team (i.e. Freeman, Starling)? I thought it measured who we gained via the portal compared to who we lost (i.e. gained Kingz, lost Bell)? Which would mean there's no metric in the chart to measure returning players (Freeman, Starling) for any team, and of course there's nothing there about incoming freshmen.

 

[FrancoPizza]

For reference this same EvanMiya table from 2024 said we had the 6th best portal class in the ACC and had the 32nd portal. This year we are 38th .

Well that’s not good Bob.

 

[hoopsupstate]

7th doesn't seem that impressive to me.

It helps that your two best players return. We are the only ACC team with its top two scorers returning.

 

[Cuse4403]

For reference this same EvanMiya table from 2024 said we had the 6th best portal class in the ACC and had the 32nd portal. This year we are 38th .

I like discussing these things but I think it's important to show just how wrong these are year over year.

It is a small sample size so it's difficult to draw any conclusions, however (lol), if you believe Syracuse brought in a decent transfer class last year and still fell flat...there is another reason that may have contributed to that. Anyone?

 

[CardiacCuse]

These metrics are bullshit. I really don’t believe in a metric that ranks transfers only. What about incoming freshman? Guys who stayed but were injured? Guys who came back and were not injured? Team chemistry ect. Hearing Luke Fennell is a top 30 recruit if he’s here in the states. So many variables. This is just transfers. How many other ACC teams are bringing back two McDonald’s AAs? I can’t think of one.

The 2010 team had 3 top 50 recruits. The highest was ranked 48. 30-5. College basketball preseason rankings mean nothing. Too many variables.

agreed.

the class rankings were meaningless before the portal madness began...now!? they are even more worthless

 

[baggerbob]

For reference this same EvanMiya table from 2024 said we had the 6th best portal class in the ACC and had the 32nd portal. This year we are 38th .

I like discussing these things but I think it's important to show just how wrong these are year over year.

There was no one in our portal class last year that was a complete player.
Eddie was the best and he was below average because of his nonexistent defense.

 

[PoppyHart]

Where does Purdue rank after successfully retaining Loyer, Smith & Renn? Arkansas retained 2 McDonald's kids in Knox and Wagner, and brought in a couple more.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Where does Purdue rank after successfully retaining Loyer, Smith & Renn? Arkansas retained 2 McDonald's kids in Knox and Wagner, and brought in a couple more.

Purdue is ranked 14th in the Big in transfer rankings according to 247. Arkansas is 15 in the SEC.

 

[Niastri]

Well, they're approximations not gospel. When the eyetest and the metrics align, it's usually the best evidence that the product is sustainable and not an anomaly of a small sample size.

Yup, building a team

Thanks for the response. Are you saying Net Transfer Activity considers who we retained from last year's team (i.e. Freeman, Starling)? I thought it measured who we gained via the portal compared to who we lost (i.e. gained Kingz, lost Bell)? Which would mean there's no metric in the chart to measure returning players (Freeman, Starling) for any team, and of course there's nothing there about incoming freshmen.

I Don’t think the metric is that complicated… It Diane actually look at who is remaining. But instead of 24th in the country, we would probably be 324th if we lost Freeman and Starling, so it is counting their lack of loss to the transfer portal.

While not actually rating the overall roster, it does account for ask the transfer activity. I imagine two weeks into the fall semester, Maya will come out with that kind of comprehensive ranking of rosters.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

It helps that your two best players return. We are the only ACC team with its top two scorers returning.

JJ starling is perhaps the most overrated player in SU history. flashes of brilliance followed by extended periods of looking like he just picked up a basketball for the first time. And that ugly shot. The aesthetic of his shot makes me want to switch the game to Space 1999

 

[CuseFan]

On paper, the team has improved significantly - at least through my Orange colored glasses.
I fully expect a top 25 next year and definite NCAA tourny bid!

 

[CuseSaint26]

JJ starling is perhaps the most overrated player in SU history. flashes of brilliance followed by extended periods of looking like he just picked up a basketball for the first time. And that ugly shot. The aesthetic of his shot makes me want to switch the game to Space 1999

JJ Starling averaged almost 18 ppg last year on a team with no point guard and no shooters. To say he is overrated is just simply wrong…inconsistent at times, maybe but don’t forget he came back early from a wrist injury and if you watch games from pre-injury, it’s a different player.

 

[sufan59]

JJ Starling averaged almost 18 ppg last year on a team with no point guard and no shooters. To say he is overrated is just simply wrong…inconsistent at times, maybe but don’t forget he came back early from a wrist injury and if you watch games from pre-injury, it’s a different player.

I’m excited by the JJ we saw at the very end of last season. I’m not saying he shouldn’t shoot 3s, but he just seemed much more aware of reading the defense. I just hope JJ plays to his strengths. An elite slasher who can occasionally hit a 3. I think we will have enough spacing for him to thrive on his strengths.

 

[cusefan88]

JJ Starling averaged almost 18 ppg last year on a team with no point guard and no shooters. To say he is overrated is just simply wrong…inconsistent at times, maybe but don’t forget he came back early from a wrist injury and if you watch games from pre-injury, it’s a different player.

JJ in that Texas Tech game was very good. Hopefully we can see his quality on a more consistent basis next year.

 

[Orangezoo]

JJ in that Texas Tech game was very good. Hopefully we can see his quality on a more consistent basis next year.

Using his speed like he did in that game is his bread and butter. Attack, the jumper and minimal 3s. He shouldn’t lead the team in scoring but should have some big nights when there is no one who can keep up or stay in front of him.

If he doesn’t commit to being a better defender then he’s got to be the one starter who gives up the most minutes to the bench/youngsters.

 

[RedtheGOB]

JJ starling is perhaps the most overrated player in SU history. flashes of brilliance followed by extended periods of looking like he just picked up a basketball for the first time. And that ugly shot. The aesthetic of his shot makes me want to switch the game to Space 1999

A little extreme but I can understand some of the comments. He's a scorer/slasher, Plain and simple. He needs to play that way and have minutes to reflect that.

Floor leadership was missing last year and is just not one of JJ's strengths. It's just not really acceptable regardless of whether we're playing Duke or Lemoyne or what he did at Blacksburg to miss all 3 foul shots on a bailout call in a tie game on the road. That's all mental and the opposite of being clutch.

It's why George is being given the keys in the backcourt and Donnie will be Donnie in the front court.

 

[Niastri]

Using his speed like he did in that game is his bread and butter. Attack, the jumper and minimal 3s. He shouldn’t lead the team in scoring but should have some big nights when there is no one who can keep up or stay in front of him.

If he doesn’t commit to being a better defender then he’s got to be the one starter who gives up the most minutes to the bench/youngsters.

Starling will benefit from some teams putting their best perimeter defender on George.

Few teams are so good on defense that their second best defender is going to be able to guard Starling one on one. The end result is going to be foul trouble on opposing bigs, and lots of runners and layups for Starling.

The guy was the only offensive threat for most of the year, and still managed to go 18, 4, and 3 with a positive assist to turnover ratio. How many guys can you think of who could have isolation called for them as much as Starling did last year and not become turnover machines?

Some people just want to talk trash about our own players. I don’t understand it.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

JJ starling is perhaps the most overrated player in SU history. flashes of brilliance followed by extended periods of looking like he just picked up a basketball for the first time. And that ugly shot. The aesthetic of his shot makes me want to switch the game to Space 1999

“Overrated“ by who? I think we have a practical understanding of what he brings.

 

[jncuse]

Last season, it took until mid February to finally start playing somewhat to our talent level which was an NIT, 60-70 range squad without Donnie.

That's an extremely rosy view for a team that went 3-6 from February 10th onwards. That is not NIT level play. We beat 2 teams at home that went a combined 13-27 in the ACC. And our best win was beating an 8-12 team on a neutral court.

But that was last year and there are now many moving parts.

 

[Niastri]

That's an extremely rosy view for a team that went 3-6 from February 10th onwards. That is not NIT level play. We beat 2 teams at home that went a combined 13-27 in the ACC. And our best win was beating an 8-12 team on a neutral court.

But that was last year and there are now many moving parts.

It’s definitely hard to defend last years performance. Things started going wrong well before the season started, and never stopped.

Failure to prioritize NIL, which led to a lousy portal haul. It was so bad that a kid we were asking to come start here went to Georgia to be a backup. The money delta was just too great for relationships and a starting role. Even if we did get Leffew, we still managed to come out of the portal with no decent point guard.

Then the health problems. McLeod and Westry either couldn’t play, or were very limited from the start of the season, and never got better.

Then Chris Bell inexplicably became unplayable for half the season, but we had nobody else so he still had to play. By the time he shot his way back to a respectable three point%, the season was toast.

Then both of our best players got injured, Starling for long enough to impact the season, and Freeman long enough to crush it.

Everything went wrong that could, and that isn’t even getting into a critique of Red’s coaching.

The best coach in the world would have struggled with last season’s shhhhh show, and Red isn’t that.

Looking forward, though. Next season’s roster is way better, even if everybody from last season was healthy and productive. Even our speculative pickups are comparable, and lower in priority. Would you take a maybe healthy Westry over a similarly ranked recruit like Betsey? Maybe, but Betsey is coming here to be a rotation or depth piece, last season we were desperately hoping Westry could miraculously get healthy and start because we had no point guard.

Last season was a disaster. No doubt. Next year is going to be much better, even with a greatly improved ACC.

I went line by line, position by position a few weeks ago, before we got Betsey, comparing the roster from last season with next year’s roster.

Other than a healthy Lampkin/McLeod duo compared to Kyle/Souare, every position on next year’s squad is a substantial upgrade over last seasons. Before we picked up Betsey, a former top 50 kid with a year of Big East experience!

And center is at worst a wash, and mostly because I’m an unrepentant Highlander Stan.

 

[sufan59]

That's an extremely rosy view for a team that went 3-6 from February 10th onwards. That is not NIT level play. We beat 2 teams at home that went a combined 13-27 in the ACC. And our best win was beating an 8-12 team on a neutral court.

But that was last year and there are now many moving parts.

If we played basketball the way we did from February-March in November-February. Despite the record you point out, we were NIT level. It’s just the data. It’s also very important to get the max out of your team from the start of the season.

 

[Niastri]

If we played basketball the way we did from February-March in November-February. Despite the record you point out, we were NIT level. It’s just the data. It’s also very important to get the max out of your team from the start of the season.

A bad team is going to be a bad team whenever they play. Sometimes teams get better, but last year had too far to go, and almost nobody had upside at any rate.

 

[RedtheGOB]

It’s definitely hard to defend last years performance. Things started going wrong well before the season started, and never stopped.

Failure to prioritize NIL, which led to a lousy portal haul. It was so bad that a kid we were asking to come start here went to Georgia to be a backup. The money delta was just too great for relationships and a starting role. Even if we did get Leffew, we still managed to come out of the portal with no decent point guard.

Then the health problems. McLeod and Westry either couldn’t play, or were very limited from the start of the season, and never got better.

Then Chris Bell inexplicably became unplayable for half the season, but we had nobody else so he still had to play. By the time he shot his way back to a respectable three point%, the season was toast.

Then both of our best players got injured, Starling for long enough to impact the season, and Freeman long enough to crush it.

Everything went wrong that could, and that isn’t even getting into a critique of Red’s coaching.

The best coach in the world would have struggled with last season’s shhhhh show, and Red isn’t that.

Looking forward, though. Next season’s roster is way better, even if everybody from last season was healthy and productive. Even our speculative pickups are comparable, and lower in priority. Would you take a maybe healthy Westry over a similarly ranked recruit like Betsey? Maybe, but Betsey is coming here to be a rotation or depth piece, last season we were desperately hoping Westry could miraculously get healthy and start because we had no point guard.

Last season was a disaster. No doubt. Next year is going to be much better, even with a greatly improved ACC.

I went line by line, position by position a few weeks ago, before we got Betsey, comparing the roster from last season with next year’s roster.

Other than a healthy Lampkin/McLeod duo compared to Kyle/Souare, every position on next year’s squad is a substantial upgrade over last seasons. Before we picked up Betsey, a former top 50 kid with a year of Big East experience!

And center is at worst a wash, and mostly because I’m an unrepentant Highlander Stan.

Great post. Agree word for word with everything.

The simple way I think about it is that we had 2 P5 players on the court most of the season Eddie/JJ (Donnie barely played and JJ was out mostly when he did play).

Now we have 4 guys at the 1-4 that should be playing major minutes at the P5 level and the center will be by committee even if people aren't sold on Kyle. Then 2-3 of the Frosh and bench pieces are likely P5 caliber guys but just may not be those guy right away. Maybe mid year or by conference play though or maybe 1 of them is ready right away to make an impact,