Expectations in Year 1

[grepal]

I would agree with this but if the nil is as good as I’ve heard we need to make the tourney

I am trying to temper my expectations. That said, I am failing miserably. I would be ok with making the tourney, is round of 32/ sweet 16 being greedy?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Protected seed. Nationally relevant. Sleeper to make F4.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I am trying to temper my expectations. That said, I am failing miserably. I would be ok with making the tourney, is round of 32/ sweet 16 being greedy?

Greedy? We’ve tolerated 10 years of misery. We’re allowed to have high expectations here.

 

[cuseattle]

No Pants!

 

[bballbeadle]

A product that’s not only worth watching but scheduling your day to watch. Under the last few years of JB and Red I stopped planning my day around the game to watch. Product was unwatchable at times. If the product improves so will the wins.

I don’t want to have to drag my a** to the Dome with a pit of dread in my stomach.

 

[bballbeadle]

Take that handful of people that have upset you so much and ignore them. It’s far easier to ignore than let a small group get under your skin. Unless this is a passive aggressive way to be angry at anyone who expresses some optimism at the hire and looking at those with zero tolerance I don’t get bothering yourself so emphatically with the unique opinion of a few.

This is a good philosophy for all of life.

 

[rrlbees]

Then we shouldn't have hired Gerry. Because we hired him so we had the money to build a roster that would be in the NCAA Tournament

i think they'll be in the tournament, but money doesn't guarantee anything. gives you a better chance obviously. otherwise kentucky would be cutting down the nets right now.

 

[bnoro]

i think they'll be in the tournament, but money doesn't guarantee anything. gives you a better chance obviously. otherwise kentucky would be cutting down the nets right now.

I'd kill for the season Kentucky had.

 

[cuseinseattle]

National champion!!!!!

 

[rrlbees]

I'd kill for the season Kentucky had.

so would i

 

[capeorange]

I'd kill for the season Kentucky had.

I want better. You hit what you aim for.

 

[OrangePA]

Then we shouldn't have hired Gerry. Because we hired him so we had the money to build a roster that would be in the NCAA Tournament

So, you know the roster?

 

[Cusefan0307]

So, you know the roster?

No, but my expectation is still to make the tournament.

 

[bnoro]

So, you know the roster?

1. Hire Gerry to raise massive NIL
2. Use NIL to build tournament roster
3. Gerry's "coaching acumen" should be able to get said roster to the tournament

If Gerry cannot build a tournament roster with the NIL money his hiring brought about, then he was not the right hire.

I didn't think I had to spell it out but here we are.

 

[bnoro]

I want better. You hit what you aim for.

Sure, but when you're eating out of the trash, you're not complaining when someone gives you a dollar slice of pizza.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

1. Hire Gerry to raise massive NIL
2. Use NIL to build tournament roster
3. Gerry's "coaching acumen" should be able to get said roster to the tournament

If Gerry cannot build a tournament roster with the NIL money his hiring brought about, then he was not the right hire.

I didn't think I had to spell it out but here we are.

This is correct.

And I'll add, the support Gerry gets from here isn't likely to get any higher unless he wins.

The clearest way to show Syracuse is back to winning is by getting safely into the tournament.

 

[tptcuse]

This is correct.

And I'll add, the support Gerry gets from here isn't likely to get any higher unless he wins.

The clearest way to show Syracuse is back to winning is by getting safely into the tournament.

I’m glad we’re not playing the Vegas tournament. I’d hate for us to go winless out there and have that “we’re already done in November” feeling yet again. Hopefully, skipping that will give Gerry flexibility to endure a couple minor setbacks and the ability to gradually build things throughout the season.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I’m glad we’re not playing the Vegas tournament. I’d hate for us to go winless out there and have that “we’re already done in November” feeling yet again. Hopefully, skipping that will give Gerry flexibility to endure a couple minor setbacks and the ability to gradually build things throughout the season.

I think we have a good schedule overall. And agreed, Vegas was probably going to be too risky.

 

[bnoro]

I’m glad we’re not playing the Vegas tournament. I’d hate for us to go winless out there and have that “we’re already done in November” feeling yet again. Hopefully, skipping that will give Gerry flexibility to endure a couple minor setbacks and the ability to gradually build things throughout the season.

This really shows how far we've fallen as a program. There was nothing like getting up for big games against ranked teams thinking about winning 2/3 or 3/3 and getting ranked after a great showing. That early MSG run in 2009 against a ranked Cal & UNC springboarded that team to national prominence.

Tournaments like this solidify you later in the season as a top seed and keep you off the bubble, even if you lose 2 of the 3 against good teams.

Stocking the schedule with NET 300 teams doesn't make SU Basketball must-watch TV.

 

[Orangezoo]

This really shows how far we've fallen as a program. There was nothing like getting up for big games against ranked teams thinking about winning 2/3 or 3/3 and getting ranked after a great showing. That early MSG run in 2009 against a ranked Cal & UNC springboarded that team to national prominence.

Tournaments like this solidify you later in the season as a top seed and keep you off the bubble, even if you lose 2 of the 3 against good teams.

Stocking the schedule with NET 300 teams doesn't make SU Basketball must-watch TV.

The problem with the Vegas tournament is the format not the level of opponents. The format made no sense. If there was more clarity on a bracket or opponent matchups it would make more sense.

Last year was more about Red than it was about failing in the tournament just as this year it will be about Gerry more than the decision to play in it.

We’ve had good non conference matchups to get some early wins whether it was playing in this tournament level or not and simply failed to get wins, especially in the years since CoVid.

Squeaking past or losing to low and mid majors year in year out kind of eliminates any gripe about playing enough tournaments like this. Hopefully we get Maui again soon.

 

[tptcuse]

This really shows how far we've fallen as a program. There was nothing like getting up for big games against ranked teams thinking about winning 2/3 or 3/3 and getting ranked after a great showing. That early MSG run in 2009 against a ranked Cal & UNC springboarded that team to national prominence.

Tournaments like this solidify you later in the season as a top seed and keep you off the bubble, even if you lose 2 of the 3 against good teams.

Stocking the schedule with NET 300 teams doesn't make SU Basketball must-watch TV.

But we have fallen. Why make it worse? I’m not asking for NET 300 teams but three top ten teams in three days is a bit much.

 

[bnoro]

But we have fallen. Why make it worse? I’m not asking for NET 300 teams but three top ten teams in three days is a bit much.

If we're a bad team, it doesn't make it worse, it just shows we're a bad team.

If we want to be a tournament team, you take these games - because it's preparing you for the tournament. Winning big games breeds confidence.

 

[tptcuse]

If we're a bad team, it doesn't make it worse, it just shows we're a bad team.

If we want to be a tournament team, you take these games - because it's preparing you for the tournament. Winning big games breeds confidence.

I guess so. I’m just sick of losing hope early.

 

[LAorange44]

Detach yourself from expectations and enjoy the ride! You’ll have more fun that way.

 

[Orangezoo]

I guess so. I’m just sick of losing hope early.

There are a few things a lot more likely to me than DJ Wagner speculation.

1a- Formal announcements around Brunt, Blackwell and any others on staff.

1b -News on actual PG targets which could be Wilkinson ( per On3 and MCW is his agent), Blyden ( fits that same profile plus kid came from Toledo and Rob Murphy is one of his reps), Alex Wilkens( prior relationship from being recruited by Siena), Derek Dixon( previously we recruited), either of the Mingos( Brunt has connection as does Kiyan), unknown Euro( given M3 signing)

2 - News on big man targets- Estrella (obvious reasons), Euro( speculation like above), names tbd without connection, backup depth via Gilhool( given prior relationship)

3- Sadiq/Donnie formal news as well as Akir ( figure that is a given)

4- formal annoucements on the Siena kids.

5- Additional out of nowhere updates or commits.