Five Plus Years...And Nothing Has Changed. Boheim Needs To Retire.

[HakAttack]

Boeheim should do the right thing and step down now.

His recruiting has fallen off a cliff the last 4-5 seasons. His inability to commit to a firm retirement date is killing the stability of this program. He can't manage a team effectively anymore. The JB of ten years ago would have won 2-3 more games at least with this team and gotten us into the...

syracusefan.com

I posted this FIVE YEARS AGO! It aged pretty well, IMO.

Ugh. He'll never step down. And no-one's going to force him out. What a mess.

 

[Day2]

Boeheim should do the right thing and step down now.

His recruiting has fallen off a cliff the last 4-5 seasons. His inability to commit to a firm retirement date is killing the stability of this program. He can't manage a team effectively anymore. The JB of ten years ago would have won 2-3 more games at least with this team and gotten us into the...

syracusefan.com

I posted this FIVE YEARS AGO!

Ugh. He'll never step down. And no-one's going to force him out. What a mess.

You should mug for the cameras like Mintz.

 

[HakAttack]

You should mug for the cameras like Mintz.

Am I wrong? It was bad then and it's even worse now.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Ugh I said I was ready for Hop to take over and he promptly left the next week.

 

[Day2]

Am I wrong? It was bad then and it's even worse now.

Is it important for you to be right? You bumped a thread from 2017. Hundreds of people thought the same thing at the time.

 

[Cuse181]

Am I wrong? It was bad then and it's even worse now.

And he’s still JB, if you don’t like the direction of the program, you will have to stop donating. JW will not get a second glance come spring so long as he is bringing in the most money the athletic department has ever seen

 

[HakAttack]

Is it important for you to be right? You bumped a thread from 2017. Hundreds of people thought the same thing at the time.

Not really. If you recall the thread got locked and I got slammed for my original post. Many more folks back then were clutching their pearls at the thought that it could be time for the "Great JB" to retire. My stance was absolutely the minority amongst the board at that time.

My point in bumping this is that it's been five years and little has changed.

 

[Day2]

Not really. If you recall the thread got locked and I got slammed for my original post. Many more folks back then were clutching their pearls at the thought that it could be time for the "Great JB" to retire.

No, I don’t recall a thread from 2017.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Is it important for you to be right? You bumped a thread from 2017. Hundreds of people thought the same thing at the time.

C’mon that’s fair game. I’ve done that on the OT board for a decade.

 

[HakAttack]

No, I don’t recall a thread from 2017.

Pretty easy to click on it five years later and see it got locked.

 

[anomander]

It was so obvious at the time. So obvious. Anybody that didn’t want to see it just didn’t want to admit it. Now we have to be careful we are starting to get to the point where these 17/18 year old recruits won’t even remember when we were a great program. Just think our last great team was probably the one with Wes in 2012. These recruits were 7 or 8 then. All they’ve seen since they have been teenagers is bad Syracuse basketball.

 

[djcon57]

Is it important for you to be right? You bumped a thread from 2017. Hundreds of people thought the same thing at the time.

people‘s fandom have been questioned for years. YEARS.

it wasn’t fair, some folks were just being honest on what we were seeing.

some...well they weren’t being honest for a plethora of reasons,

 

[HakAttack]

It was so obvious at the time. So obvious. Anybody that didn’t want to see it just didn’t want to admit it. Now we have to be careful we are starting to get to the point where these 17/18 year old recruits won’t even remember when we were a great program. Just think our last great team was probably the one with Wes in 2012. These recruits were 7 or 8 then. All they’ve seen since they have been teenagers is bad Syracuse basketball.

Wow. That really puts things in perspective. For us adults, 2012 doesn't seem like that long ago but for recruits, you're right. That's literally a lifetime ago.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Is it important for you to be right? You bumped a thread from 2017. Hundreds of people thought the same thing at the time.

Hundreds saw it back in 2017, there are thousands upon thousands that see it now. I’m not sure what the last few remaining JB loyalists see.

All of the concerns from that 2017 thread have persisted on and become worse. There were several posters that thought “JB would do the right thing and retire when the time is right.”

They were clearly wrong. JB has completely destroyed the program. All the equity he built up in his first 40 years has been spent. It’s over, and it’s getting really bad.

The only thing JB can do now is announce his retirement at year end. It’s the only thing he can do to save grace and restore any respect to his legacy. The legacy that is rapidly deteriorating.

 

[HakAttack]

Hundreds saw it back in 2017, there are thousands upon thousands that see it now. I’m not sure what the last few remaining JB loyalists see.

All of the concerns from that 2017 thread have persisted on and become worse. There were several posters that thought “JB would do the right thing and retire when the time is right.”

They were clearly wrong. JB has completely destroyed the program. All the equity he built up in his first 40 years and been spent. It’s over, and it’s getting really bad.

The only thing JB can do now is announce his retirement at year end. It’s the only thing he can do to save grace and restore any respect to his legacy. The legacy that is rapidly deteriorating.

I don't think anyone can debate that at this point. And sadly, you're also right. Its really going to color his legacy in the eyes of many.

 

[CU44SE]

Mine was locked from the 2020-2021 basketball season.

 

[Day2]

people‘s fandom have been questioned for years. YEARS.

it wasn’t fair, some folks were just being honest on what we were seeing.

some...well they weren’t being honest for a plethora of reasons,

Hundreds saw it back in 2017, there are thousands upon thousands that see it now. I’m not sure what the last few remaining JB loyalists see.

All of the concerns from that 2017 thread have persisted on and become worse. There were several posters that thought “JB would do the right thing and retire when the time is right.”

They were clearly wrong. JB has completely destroyed the program. All the equity he built up in his first 40 years and been spent. It’s over, and it’s getting really bad.

The only thing JB can do now is announce his retirement at year end. It’s the only thing he can do to save grace and restore any respect to his legacy. The legacy that is rapidly deteriorating.

Just interesting to see the “Nobody is bigger than the program, including the coach” crowd pounding their chests.

And it’s ridiculous to suggest the next coach won’t be able to turn things around. If JB can destroy the program beyond repair, then there wasn’t much of a program to begin with.

 

[Gotothehole]

Most of us will be around this program for 25 years plus Think about that . Basketball was playing before Jim basketball will be played after Jim

 

[jgeorge322]

Boeheim should do the right thing and step down now.

His recruiting has fallen off a cliff the last 4-5 seasons. His inability to commit to a firm retirement date is killing the stability of this program. He can't manage a team effectively anymore. The JB of ten years ago would have won 2-3 more games at least with this team and gotten us into the...

syracusefan.com

I posted this FIVE YEARS AGO! It aged pretty well, IMO.

Ugh. He'll never step down. And no-one's going to force him out. What a mess.

Jacob, just so I don’t have to go through that entire thread, how did all my H0T Takes age?

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Just interesting to see the “Nobody is bigger than the program, including the coach” crowd pounding their chests.

And it’s ridiculous to suggest the next coach won’t be able to turn things around. If JB can destroy the program beyond repair, then there wasn’t much of a program to begin with.

At this point anybody supporting JB remaining as head coach at Syracuse needs to needs to be evaluated for insanity.

 

[anomander]

Just to think we’ve been talking about this for 6 years . We really need to start over next year or it will just continue to get worse. We need all new blood that can recruit.
Another recruiting advantage we had back then was the Melo Center. At the time it was built it separated us from a lot of programs facility wise. Now everybody has top level facilities so it means even more that you need ace recruiters.

 

[UnknownOrange]

If Jim Boeheim wants to come back and next year be his final year, do you think JW has the stones to tell him no?

 

[HakAttack]

Jacob, just so I don’t have to go through that entire thread, how did all my H0T Takes age?

Pretty good JG. If I recall you were saying it’s been time for JB to hang it up for years now.

 

[HakAttack]

Just interesting to see the “Nobody is bigger than the program, including the coach” crowd pounding their chests.

And it’s ridiculous to suggest the next coach won’t be able to turn things around. If JB can destroy the program beyond repair, then there wasn’t much of a program to begin with.

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[Day2]

At this point anybody supporting JB remaining as head coach at Syracuse needs to needs to be evaluated for insanity.

OK.