For those are already to move on from Red

[kcsu]

Dang. Will we ever return to the old days, or are the best days of Syracuse basketball behind us?

Unfortunately they probably are behind us for the foreseeable future. During the height of the Big East SU and the other BE schools were at the pinnacle of college basketball. Those SU teams were stacked with Talent and Jim was in his prime.
Anyone of those teams would absolutely destroy any team of Syracuse team from 2015 to current. Flat out destroyed.

 

[Orangello]

The end is nigh.

 

[Orangello]

We rollin baby

 

[RedtheGOB]

Petar the Maestro Maestrovic is going to toughen this team up. He's like In Serbia we wash our balls with ice water and have to hitchhike to games.

 

[two3zone]

There's a big difference between barely eligible and failed out, similar to being pretty sick and being dead.

Literally the only reason I'm here is content like this.

 

[phreddie]

Dang. Will we ever return to the old days, or are the best days of Syracuse basketball behind us?

I started having this thought 7 or so years ago, when the calls for JB to retire started really picking up...

I fear Syracuse post JB will be Georgetown post JT: occasionally good, mostly mediocre, generally irrelevant.

 

[orange79]

Gotta root for Miami on Saturday then to get some playoff $

You think Fran is gonna share???

 

[two3zone]

You think Fran is gonna share???

Lose it for Big Eddie Lampkin and his back!!!!

 

[atlanticuse]

Eddie mentioned his back hurt from the back-to-back games and... long bus rides.
But with that said... driving makes sense ~250 miles and less.
Pittsburgh and College Park, MD, are 350+ miles. For that, it's unacceptable. Especially when I see other programs in the airport all the time.

 

[dasher]

No, its because he was a very good booster that supported multiple SU teams with men's basketball, the one that is riding the bus his favorite. Its possible that a meeting, breaking bread ɓetween the three of them might patch things up and bring him back supporting SU athletes. Syracuse Athletics doesn't have the luxury of not trying to mend a fence with a former booster that loves the program, supported the program and personally is being slighted because of the negative dynamics that exist between the Chancellor and his good friend the former HOF coach.

I'm not sure how much he "loved" the program.

 

[BigNastyJon]

Move that bus!!!

 

[baggerbob]

Was it, though? Was it?

It was for the women's team, because he came up with the money for Fair, she even said so.

 

[dasher]

Dang. Will we ever return to the old days, or are the best days of Syracuse basketball behind us?

We will. Great days are ahead for us. How soon? Not sure about that part.

 

[RyanCuse44]

One, I don't know. Two, I don't care. I would imagine it was the best bus we could get. But so what? To me, it would be like having the very best trailer in the trailer park.

 

[elimunelson]

aren't guys making 6 figures? They should give them the option of spending their own money and taking a flight to boston, nyc or wherever.

world's smallest violen for SUAD, college sports, and the new underwrite.

I honestly hope they're fung wah by 2026. Maybe it'll open someone's eyes finally. I mean will the field hockey team hitchhike in a few years. How on earth does the no revenue sports do it now?

 

[two3zone]

I'm just going to put on the record that I don't think Red should be fired after this season unless we are in single digit wins. (I don't think we'll be in single digit wins)

I know some dork down the line will say I've been calling for it since he was named coach.

 

[elimunelson]

No, its because he was a very good booster that supported multiple SU teams with men's basketball, the one that is riding the bus his favorite. Its possible that a meeting, breaking bread ɓetween the three of them might patch things up and bring him back supporting SU athletes. Syracuse Athletics doesn't have the luxury of not trying to mend a fence with a former booster that loves the program, supported the program and personally is being slighted because of the negative dynamics that exist between the Chancellor and his good friend the former HOF coach.

to be frank, this is stupid.

i take the university's side over the trash/recycle guy with his broken feelings. He's not even an alum. If he went to the school he may not have taken his ball and ran to SUNY Albany or wherever he went. Steve Barnes and other big boosters seem to be able to play well in the sand box.

Don't capitulate Sveryud

 

[ManleyRocks]

This whole thread is sobering. Totally penny wise and pound foolish. If money is going to become that tight in the new world, then like any business the AD should review every sports program, support the bare minimum for Title IX purposes and cut the ones that do not significantly enhance the important programs. Cross subsidization is a luxury and SU does not have Big 10 or SEC money. To short change the basketball program that can be an attendance leader year in and year out / cash cow when successful makes no sense. I mean seriously…driving to Maryland and Pittsburgh. Those bus trips are an unnecessary self inflicted wound to the program (and I have driven those trips a lot in my life….those single lane construction stretches in PA make you want to loose your mind as you sit there wondering if you are going ever move.)

 

[dasher]

This whole thread is sobering. Totally penny wise and pound foolish. If money is going to become that tight in the new world, then like any business the AD should review every sports program, support the bare minimum for Title IX purposes and cut the ones that do not significantly enhance the important programs. Cross subsidization is a luxury and SU does not have Big 10 or SEC money. To short change the basketball program that can be an attendance leader year in and year out / cash cow when successful makes no sense. I mean seriously…driving to Maryland and Pittsburgh. Those bus trips are an unnecessary self inflicted wound to the program (and I have driven those trips a lot in my life….those single lane construction stretches in PA make you want to loose your mind as you sit there wondering if you are going ever move.)

We aren't driving to Maryland. We play Maryland in NY

 

[atlanticuse]

One, I don't know. Two, I don't care. I would imagine it was the best bus we could get. But so what? To me, it would be like having the very best trailer in the trailer park.

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[BigNastyJon]

I’m done with the basketball page on here for awhile. Just pisses me off.

 

[kcsu]

I'm not sure how much he "loved" the program.

Does it matter?

 

[dasher]

Does it matter?

Not to me but you used that as a reason to try and lure him back.

 

[ar inj]

Keep in mind that the AD needs to find $20MM in direct payments to athletes and fund 60-100 additional scholarships ( out of 211 additional allowed in the sports in our portfolio) beginning in July. Only two potential approaches: Cut costs or increase revenue.
I am sure we are not alone.

Wrong. Allowed scholarships will increase but they are not mandatory and need not be filled. And it is all dependent on a not yet approved court settlement.

 

[Consigliere]

Wrong. Allowed scholarships will increase but they are not mandatory and need not be filled. And it is all dependent on a not yet approved court settlement.

Not wrong. That's why I estimated we will use some, not all of the allotted scholarships within our portfolio of sports. And I probably follow issues with House v. NCAA as closely as anyone on this board. Ask our Athletics Director if he feels these aspects of House will be enacted. We are planning on institutiong direct payments in July 2025.

If you want to be competitive in your major sports you will maximize direct paymaents to players (we will) and allow coaches to optimize their rosters using as many of the allowable scholarshios they feel they need to, It doesn't take a Nobel Prize winner in Mathematics to see that Fran is recruiting to the 105 limit.